This appears to be the Mathieu Gloray who married Ester Johannot. His parents are Anthoine Gloray and Marie Baibrit (? illegible), and witnesses at the baptism were Mathieu Johannot and Anne Pinet. Ester Johannot was the dau. of this Mathieu and his wife Catherine Pinet, Anne Pinet was the sister of Catherine, and the wife of the brother of Mathieu, Barthelemy Johannot. Mathieu and Ester appear in Morges 06 dec 1686 at the baptism of the daughter of Pierre Cr�gut, cy devant Ministre � Annonay en Vivaretz. By 1690, they were in Erlangen, Germany, as was the minister Pierre Cr�gut and several others of their relatives.
[14652] Might this couple be parents of the Anthoine Gloray of Annonay whose son Barthelemi married in Aubonne 05 jun 1711 to Jaquette, daughter of Jaques de Liron, Sr. d'Ayrols en Cevennes?
Abraham Gnaegi died young.
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1743| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--Abraham GNAEGI | | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Magdalena YODER ____| (1726 - 1772) m 1743| | __ | | |__| | |__
Date discrepancy? Month written Nov. (Feb). He married 1 July 1823, Susan Christina Seese, daughter of George Seese and Mary Miller.
_Johannes GNAEGI ____ | (1720 - 1772) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______ | (.... - 1742) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1772 - 1841) m 1796| | | _Jacob SEILER _______+ | | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739 | |_Anna SEILER ________| | (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | |_Magdalena STALD ____ | (.... - 1784) m 1739 | |--Abraham GNAEGI | (1804 - 1861) | _____________________ | | | _Joseph FORNEY ______| | | (1744 - 1802) m 1773| | | |_____________________ | | |_Catherine FORNEY ___| (1774 - 1828) m 1796| | _____________________ | | |_Barbara YODER (?) __| (.... - 1785) m 1773| |_____________________
Married to Christian Miller? Was this the same Christian suggested as her sister's husband?
Anna not named in this account of the Gnaegi family.
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1743| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--Anna GNAEGI | (1771 - 1842) | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Magdalena YODER ____| (1726 - 1772) m 1743| | __ | | |__| | |__
Residence - Strasburg, Ohio
______________________ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | |______________________ | _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | | ______________________ | | | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| | (.... - 1742) m 1739| | |______________________ | | |--Barbara GNAEGI | (1769 - ....) | _Joseph Jacob SEILER _+ | | (1687 - 1739) | _Jacob SEILER _______| | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739| | | |______________________ | | |_Anna SEILER ________| (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | ______________________ | | |_Magdalena STALD ____| (.... - 1784) m 1739| |______________________
Catherine, wife of C. Metzger, died 11 Sept. 1862, aged 65y, 2m, 24d.
_Johannes GNAEGI ____ | (1720 - 1772) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______ | (.... - 1742) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1772 - 1841) m 1796| | | _Jacob SEILER _______+ | | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739 | |_Anna SEILER ________| | (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | |_Magdalena STALD ____ | (.... - 1784) m 1739 | |--Catharine GNAEGI | (1797 - 1862) | _____________________ | | | _Joseph FORNEY ______| | | (1744 - 1802) m 1773| | | |_____________________ | | |_Catherine FORNEY ___| (1774 - 1828) m 1796| | _____________________ | | |_Barbara YODER (?) __| (.... - 1785) m 1773| |_____________________
______________________ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | |______________________ | _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | | ______________________ | | | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| | (.... - 1742) m 1739| | |______________________ | | |--Catherine GNAEGI | (1775 - 1825) | _Joseph Jacob SEILER _+ | | (1687 - 1739) | _Jacob SEILER _______| | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739| | | |______________________ | | |_Anna SEILER ________| (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | ______________________ | | |_Magdalena STALD ____| (.... - 1784) m 1739| |______________________
[9900] It has been at least 35 years since we started collecting data on the Gnaegi family and there are still many discrepancies to sort out. What follows should be no means be considered totally accurate...rather, it represents what has been collected to date and should be considered a work in progress.
Our first informant was Eber Cockley of the Somerset County Historical Society in Meyersdale, PA. Later information came from several printed works mentioned in my bibliography and the authors did not agree with one another regarding the number of children, etc. Because the family used many different spellings of the surname, the records were difficult to follow. For the sake of clarity, the spelling Gnaegi is being used in this database.
Most of the records show that Elizabeth Landis was the wife of Christian Gnaegi and it was many years before we learned that his first wife was Anna (Nancy) Seiler and she was supposedly the mother of all the children. However, a new search should be undertaken to see if additional proof can be located.
...born in England, 1742, died in Harrison Co., near Scio, OH....
Will dated 1 Feb. 1812
Names Elizabeth Landis as wife of Christian.
All of the children of Christian Gnaegi were by his first wife, Anna Seiler.
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--Christian GNAEGI | (1740 - 1812) | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| (.... - 1742) m 1739| | __ | | |__| | |__
Date of birth given as 4 Sep. 1772
Buried in Swanton, OH; monument in Strasburg, OH.
______________________ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | |______________________ | _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | | ______________________ | | | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| | (.... - 1742) m 1739| | |______________________ | | |--Christian GNAEGI | (1772 - 1841) | _Joseph Jacob SEILER _+ | | (1687 - 1739) | _Jacob SEILER _______| | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739| | | |______________________ | | |_Anna SEILER ________| (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | ______________________ | | |_Magdalena STALD ____| (.... - 1784) m 1739| |______________________
Married Aug. 1835, Tuscarawas Co., OH, to Eliza Ann Stout, daughter of Christian Stout and Elizabeth Crites.
_Johannes GNAEGI ____ | (1720 - 1772) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______ | (.... - 1742) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1772 - 1841) m 1796| | | _Jacob SEILER _______+ | | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739 | |_Anna SEILER ________| | (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | |_Magdalena STALD ____ | (.... - 1784) m 1739 | |--Christian GNAEGI | (1808 - 1850) | _____________________ | | | _Joseph FORNEY ______| | | (1744 - 1802) m 1773| | | |_____________________ | | |_Catherine FORNEY ___| (1774 - 1828) m 1796| | _____________________ | | |_Barbara YODER (?) __| (.... - 1785) m 1773| |_____________________
David is not mentioned in this book.
David is not mentioned in this account of the Gnaegi family. Does he belong in another grouping?
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1743| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--David GNAEGI | | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Magdalena YODER ____| (1726 - 1772) m 1743| | __ | | |__| | |__
Married to Peter Bell, 21 Dec. 1837; had two daughters.
_Johannes GNAEGI ____ | (1720 - 1772) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______ | (.... - 1742) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1772 - 1841) m 1796| | | _Jacob SEILER _______+ | | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739 | |_Anna SEILER ________| | (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | |_Magdalena STALD ____ | (.... - 1784) m 1739 | |--Elizabeth GNAEGI | (1803 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _Joseph FORNEY ______| | | (1744 - 1802) m 1773| | | |_____________________ | | |_Catherine FORNEY ___| (1774 - 1828) m 1796| | _____________________ | | |_Barbara YODER (?) __| (.... - 1785) m 1773| |_____________________
______________________ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | |______________________ | _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | | ______________________ | | | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| | (.... - 1742) m 1739| | |______________________ | | |--Gertrude GNAEGI | (1777 - 1860) | _Joseph Jacob SEILER _+ | | (1687 - 1739) | _Jacob SEILER _______| | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739| | | |______________________ | | |_Anna SEILER ________| (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | ______________________ | | |_Magdalena STALD ____| (.... - 1784) m 1739| |______________________
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1743| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--Gertrude (Charity) GNAEGI | (1748 - ....) | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Magdalena YODER ____| (1726 - 1772) m 1743| | __ | | |__| | |__
A date range of 1800/04. Married 12 May 1829 to Catherine Horner.
_Johannes GNAEGI ____ | (1720 - 1772) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______ | (.... - 1742) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1772 - 1841) m 1796| | | _Jacob SEILER _______+ | | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739 | |_Anna SEILER ________| | (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | |_Magdalena STALD ____ | (.... - 1784) m 1739 | |--Jacob GNAEGI | | _____________________ | | | _Joseph FORNEY ______| | | (1744 - 1802) m 1773| | | |_____________________ | | |_Catherine FORNEY ___| (1774 - 1828) m 1796| | _____________________ | | |_Barbara YODER (?) __| (.... - 1785) m 1773| |_____________________
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1743| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--Jacob GNAEGI | (1760 - 1837) | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Magdalena YODER ____| (1726 - 1772) m 1743| | __ | | |__| | |__
Married 1) Susanna Livingstone; 2) Sarah Jeffers (Ely); 3) Susanna Parker.
______________________ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | |______________________ | _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | | ______________________ | | | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| | (.... - 1742) m 1739| | |______________________ | | |--Jacob GNAEGI | (1780 - 1871) | _Joseph Jacob SEILER _+ | | (1687 - 1739) | _Jacob SEILER _______| | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739| | | |______________________ | | |_Anna SEILER ________| (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | ______________________ | | |_Magdalena STALD ____| (.... - 1784) m 1739| |______________________
Author shows date of birth for both Christian and John as 1742. Perhaps he meant both were born by 1742?
Date of death given as April 24, 1815...
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--Johanes \John GNAEGI | (1742 - 1815) | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| (.... - 1742) m 1739| | __ | | |__| | |__
[10059] There are many different theories about the date and place of birth for Johannes Gnaegi, as well as the name of his first wife. It is entirely possible that we will never find the answers to the many questions surrounding his life. There were early Anabaptist Gnaegi families living in Steffisburg, Switzerland (near Lake Thun) who later went to the Alsace area of St. Marie-aux-mines and there were other Gnaegi families in the Palatine who could have been related.
What can be proved is that Johannes emigrated to America in 1742 aboard the ship Francis and Elizabeth, along with other Amish families named Yoder, Miller and Zook, with whom he would continue to be associated in Pennsylvania.
Several sources give the name of his first wife as Mary Holden, an English woman who was supposedly the mother of his first two children. She died on the voyage to America. J. Virgil Miller, in his Both Sides of the Ocean, suggests that the first wife of Johannes was a daughter of Christian Yoder and, after the death of his wife, Johannes married her sister, Magdalena Yoder, a common practice at that time.
By 1747 Johannes Gnaegi had land in Upper Bern Township, Berks Co., PA, which he held until 1763 when he sold to his neighbors, Jacob Kauffman and Christian Beiler. Johannes then moved to Bethel Twp. on the Little Swatara Creek, Dauphin Co, PA, which is now Lebanon Co., where he owned a mill and farms totaling over 400 acres.
Born 1720, Canton Bern, Switzerland.
Miller gives ca 1695 as date of birth, with place named Boehl (in the Palatine) and names the parents as Hans Gnaegi and Barbara Muller. Johannes' marriage to the first wife in England is shown as 1717, yet the first child was not born until 1740. It is my belief that a generation has been missed and the Palatine census lists need further exploration. The Hans Gnaegi in Alsace was probably a relative, but perhaps a grandfather instead of father?
Date of birth is shown as 1720, with place of birth Arrur, Canton Bern, Switzerland. I believe the author meant Aarau in Canton Aargau, as no place named "Arrur" has been located.
The abstract shows his name as "John" and mentions that the will was written in German. Date of 15 Dec. 1772, Bethel Twp.
Will of John Gneage (Hans Gnagi) Bethel Twp. 11/9/1772-12/15/1772 (English translation of original German): ...widow shall dwell with my children at the mill and plantation...til children marry, then each to get at marriage what the married brothers and sisters....son Christian by first wife has received his share of his mother's estate (15 pounds)...the shares of my children by my last wife of their mother's estate shall be also given to them (37 pounds 13 shillings 4 pence) and then, the residue shall be divided in equal shares...." Executors: brother-in-law Christian Yoder, widow Magdalena Gnaegi. Witnesses: Abraham Troxell, John Schrag.
Will Book X-2, pg 205, Lancaster, PA courthouse.
______________________ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1739| | |______________________ | _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | | ______________________ | | | | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______| | (.... - 1742) m 1739| | |______________________ | | |--Johannes\John GNAEGI | (1763 - 1845) | _Joseph Jacob SEILER _+ | | (1687 - 1739) | _Jacob SEILER _______| | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739| | | |______________________ | | |_Anna SEILER ________| (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | ______________________ | | |_Magdalena STALD ____| (.... - 1784) m 1739| |______________________
Married Eve Seese, 9 Dec. 1828, daughter of George Seese & Mary Miller.
_Johannes GNAEGI ____ | (1720 - 1772) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1740 - 1812) m 1762| | |_Mary HOLDEN ? ______ | (.... - 1742) m 1739 _Christian GNAEGI ___| | (1772 - 1841) m 1796| | | _Jacob SEILER _______+ | | | (1715 - 1793) m 1739 | |_Anna SEILER ________| | (1744 - 1798) m 1762| | |_Magdalena STALD ____ | (.... - 1784) m 1739 | |--John GNAEGI | (1798 - 1880) | _____________________ | | | _Joseph FORNEY ______| | | (1744 - 1802) m 1773| | | |_____________________ | | |_Catherine FORNEY ___| (1774 - 1828) m 1796| | _____________________ | | |_Barbara YODER (?) __| (.... - 1785) m 1773| |_____________________
Birth in this book is given as circa 1766 in Lebanon Co. Joseph was thought to have moved to Richland Co., OH, north of Butler. Buried on his farm cemetery.
__ | __| | | | |__ | _Johannes GNAEGI ____| | (1720 - 1772) m 1743| | | __ | | | | |__| | | | |__ | | |--Joseph GNAEGI | (1763 - 1843) | __ | | | __| | | | | | |__ | | |_Magdalena YODER ____| (1726 - 1772) m 1743| | __ | | |__| | |__