Marin BOUCHER

  General Notes:

LaForest cites research on Marin Boucher by Father Archange Godbout, published in 1975, in the Archivist of Quebec, under the title of Old Families of France in New France, with introduction and additional notes by Roland J. Auger. Pp 139 and 140 are devoted to Marin Boucher. Archange Godbout says that Marin was a relative of Gaspard but not his brother as was often claimed. He had atleast 2 sisters; Jean, who married 15 Jul 1629 at Saint-Jean Thomas Hayot, and Antointeet, wife of Guillaume Lecourt. It does not say who were their parents.

http://genforum.genealogy.com/boucher/messages/2047.html:

Although Marin Boucher and Gaspard Boucher are often listed as brothers, a closer look to trustable sources do not confirm this relationship. First, Alfred Cambray in his book "ROBERT GIFFARD ... & LES ORIGINES DE LA NOUVELLE-FRANCE" clearly state that both have been recruited at the same time, sailed on the same vessel and landed to Tadoussac on the 31st of may 1634. This is confirmed in the Jesuit Relations. Cambray never refer to them as brothers. Second, father Archange Godbout in his "ORIGINES DES FAMILLLES CANADIENNES FRANÇAISES" list quantities of pionneer families with other related families. Both Bouchers are listed separately and no mention of relativity is mentioned between them.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rnelson&id=I30647
Richard Alan Nelson

"On August 24, 1688, Marin was called to give testimony on the circumstances of the voyage of Gaspard Boucher "his relative" who also arrived in 1634. "

Since Marin and Gaspard share recent common ancestry, I have left them as brothers here - but they almost certainly were not brothers. I'm still trying to learn how we know anything else about Marin, including who were his sisters.

LaForest mentions that he took a farm with his borther in law Thomas Hayot, but does not say how we know Thomas Hayot was his brother in law.

On the exact birth date, noone on the web who has provided it has provided a source for it, though I see where a number of people have questioned where it came from.


Marin sold his house to Jean Guyon before leaving in New France, and Jean Guyon himself emigrated in 1634.


When the Buchers came to New France in 1634, they were accompanied by 3 children; Louis-Marin, 4; Jean-Galleran, 1; and Francois, 16, from the first marriage.


Master mason.

Established at Riviere St., St. Charles, above the terre-de-recollets.

Samuel du Champlain left Marin a suit in his will, an invaluable bequest in those days.

Birth date also found 1589, 1603. Died at 84 years old - birth had to be 1587.

Marrige to Perrine also listed by Tanguay as 1632. Also listed born in Orne, France.

Census of 1667, Coste-de-Beaupre (Chateau-Richer) noted Marin, 80 years, Perrine Malet his wife, 63 years, a child Guillsume, 20 years.

Immigrated to Quebec with the first group of settlers.

Married at St Longrid des Montaique, Perche, France.

Marin Boucher and his second wife Perrin Mallet and six children Francois, Jean-Galeran, Pierre, Gauillaume, Marie and Madeleine arrived in Canada on Aug 9, 1634.

World connect database cites Jette, Tanguay, Laforest, and Oliver, Your Ancient Canadian Family Ties 1600 - 1700.



Boucher
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Marin Boucher (1587 or 1589-1671), was a pioneer of early New France and one of the most prolific ancestors of French Canada, being the ancestor of most of the Bouchers of North America, particularly in the Province of Quebec, Northern New Brunswick, Ontario and Western Canada. Estimates of the number of families in Canada and the United States descended from Marin Boucher run as high as 350,000, although most of them do not bear the name Boucher today because Marin's line produced more daughters than sons.

Biography
Marin Boucher was born in St-Langey-les-Mortagnes, Perche, Mortagne, Normandy, France in either 1587 or 1589, and died in Canada in 1671.
He married twice, first to Julienne Baril (died 1627 </wiki/1627>) in 1611 </wiki/1611>, and then to Perrine Mailet (1604 </wiki/1604>-1687 </wiki/1687>) about 1627. He had seven children by Julienne, not all of whom traveled to Canada, and seven more by Perrine, five of whom were born in Canada.
The Bouchers were stone masons and carpenters, skills which were valuable in the early colony. Because of some work done for Samuel de Champlain, the Founder of the colony, Marin Boucher was mentionned in Champlain's will. He was also a witness in a dispute over stolen property in which his relation Gaspard Boucher was the plaintiff.
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Family History
Marin Boucher's sister, Jeanne Boucher, married a Hayot (spellings vary: Hayot; Ayot; Ayotte, etc.) who was also an early settler and founder of a distinguished Quebec family.

Gaspard Boucher was another close relation who emigrated to New France, believed by some researchers to have been Marin's brother, though more likely his cousin. Gaspard Boucher was father of Pierre Boucher, Seigneur of Boucherville, and founder of the parish and township of Boucherville, across the Saint Lawrence River from Montreal. Pierre Boucher became Governor of Trois-Rivières and a Royal Judge, was ennobled, and settled on his seigneurie, where he founded a model seigneurie, village and Parish which is now a suburban satellite of Montreal.

The Bouchers arrived as part of the Percheron Immigration, a small group of families and some single men from the region of Perche </wiki/Perche>, in the Province of Normandy, brought over to New France in 1634 to colonize Beauport, a seigneurie granted to Robert Giffard, physician to the colony. Marin Boucher and his family came over aboard the ship, St. Jehan under the command of Captain Pierre Nesle, which arrived in Quebec on June 4 </wiki/June_4>, 1634 </wiki/1634>.

The colonists were temporarily housed in the Habitation (Fort Saint Louis), the fort and residence built by Samuel de Champlain at Quebec in 1608, before moving to their land concessions at Beauport, a short distance down river from Quebec.

Gaspard Boucher may have arrived with his family separately in 1635 according to the memoires of his son, Sieur Pierre Boucher de Boucherville.

Marin Boucher and his family subsequently moved to the South Shore where they were pioneers of the town of Rivière-Ouelle >. The town was attacked during King William's War by a party led by Sir William Phips in October 1690 </wiki/1690>, and Marin's son, Jean-Galleran was among the 39 "Heroes of Rivière-Ouelle" who defended the town. Phips, whose troops had been pillaging along the coast of the St-Laurent on their way to lay siege to Québec City , was repulsed by the ambush, and later was unsuccessful in his attack on Québec.

Genealogy
Genealogical information on the Bouchers can be found in the works of Abbé Cyprien Tanguay; Abbé Archange Godbout; René Jetté; and other standard reference works on French Canadian genealogy.
One of the best family trees on the web can be found at the following site: <http://www.grandesfamilles.org/>, which is in French with some of the text translated in English.

Boucher Family : <http://www.grandesfamilles.org/Boucher/01.html>
Two early settlers of Acadia are believed to be descended from Marin Boucher of New France, but there is also a Simon Boucher who first settled on Isle Royale (now Cape Breton Island)so not all Acadian Bouchers are descended from Marin Boucher. Indeed, there are several other lines of Bouchers, including that of Jean Boucher, even in Quebec. Nonetheless there are Bouchers descended from Marin Boucher in Louisiana, either of Acadian (Cadien or Cadjin)descent or more directly descended from the Canadian (Quebec) lines.


Monuments
With the other early pioneers, Marin Boucher and his wife are commemorated by a plaque in Quebec City.
Pierre Boucher is commemorated by a statue on the Assemblée Nationale, the Provincial Legislature Building in Quebec City, and in a stained glass window in a church in Mortagne, Perche.
A number of places and streets are named after various members of the Boucher family.

References
Thomas LaForest, Our French Canadian Ancestors, Volume 4 Chapter 7 "Marin Boucher"
Father Cyprien Tanguay, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Canadiennes, Volume 1 (1871)
Marcel Trudel, Catalogue des immigrants, 1983




http://www.delmars.com/family/perrault/634.htm

General Notes:

IMMIGRATION: 1634; immigrated to New France with Robert Giffard and Nöel Juchereau. Settled with family first on the Rivière Saint-Charles before receiving land grant at Château-Richer.

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MARIN BOUCHER from " Our French-Canadian Ancestors " by Thomas J. Laforest

Marin Boucher was born between 1587 and 1589. He was married twice before leaving for Canada. On February 7, 1611, he married Julienne Baril, daughter of Jean and Raoulline, living at LaBarre in the parish of Saint-Langis-les-Mortagne ( Orne ). They had seven children. Julienne Baril died, on December 15, 1627 and was buried at Saint-Langis the next day. Around 1628 or 1629, Marin took a second wife. She was Perrine Mallet. The marriage was in Saint-Langis-les-Mortagne, France. They had seven children.

Perrine Mallet, the second wife of Marin Boucher, was born between 1604 and 1606 and was the daughter of Pierre and Jacqueline Liger from Courgeout ( Orne ). When the Bouchers came to New France in 1634 they were accompanied by 3 children; Louis-Marin, 4 years old; Jean-Galleran, 1 year old; François, 16 years old.

HEIR TO CHAMPLAIN
We know almost nothing about the first four years of Marin Boucher and his family in New France except that the pioneer is mentioned in Champlain's will. According to the historian, E. Mitchell (a member of the Society of Canadian Writers and the Historical Societies of Montreal and Boucherville ), the founder of Québec certainly knew Boucher before his death. She states that "the Commandant of Trois-Rivières, Marc-Antoine Bras-de-fer de Châteaufort, assumed his duties as interim governor immediately after the funeral. He presided at the reading of Champlain's will; a will whose validity was to be contested, in which a man called Marin was mentioned and it concerns, we believe, Marin, relative of Gaspard: "I give to Marin, mason, living near the house of the Recollet Fathers, the last suit that I had made from material which I got at the store," wrote Champlain."

Marin Boucher must have greatly appreciated this legacy from Champlain because we know how much Our Ancestors, who were for the most part very poor, attached importance to any clothing, be it also threadbare and worn out.

FARMER OF THE JESUITS
On August 24, 1638, Marin was called to give testimony on the circumstances of the voyage of Gaspard Boucher "his relative ", who also arrived in 1634. We know that Marin first worked a piece of land that the Recollets had abandoned in 1629 following the surrender of Québec to the Kirke brothers. Later, he took a farm with his brother-in-law, Thomas Hayot ( the ancestor of the Ayotte families), on land of the Jesuits at Beauport. On June 11, 1648, reports the Jesuit Journal, the two farmers separated. Hayot kept the farm and Boucher took a concession next to that of Olivier Tardif.

ON THE BEAUPRE COAST
Later, Boucher and his family lived on the Beaupré coast. Marin then sold his former farm of 3 arpents in frontage on the Saint Charles River "from the stream which separates the cleared field of the Reverend Fathers Recollets from the deserted property formerly of Jacques Caumont." Marin claimed to have received the land from the Company of New France but the Recollets claimed this land as belonging to them when they returned to Canada in 1670.

On March 6, 1656, Boucher signed a note for 176 livres for the Fabrique de Québec, an old debt contracted from the Compagnie des Habitants. Meanwhile, our mason-farmer wrote Father Godbout, advanced in age. Little by little, he gave up his concessions. He gave one and a half arpents in frontage to his son-in-law, Louis Houde, which was returned to Marin on the 13th of September, 1655. He then gave two arpents to another son-in-law, Jean Plante, on April 15, 1656, which was receipted for on February 7, 1659. He increased this on July 8, by 8 perches; and the right of passage, on September 27, 1668. He gave another two arpents to his son, Jean-Galleran, on April 30, 1656 and added an increase of seven and one-half perches on December 15, 1662. He made a similar gift to his son, Guillaume, on July 29, 1670. At the time of the 1667 census, Marin Boucher had reached the age of 80. In the census, he listed 8 head of cattle and 20 arpents under cultivation. He died March 25, 1671, at Château-Richer.

In 1681, Perrine Mallet, his widow, was listed in the census along with Antoine Voilon, a tailor, who seems to have been in her employ. She died, on August 24, 1687 and buried the next day at Québec.

His epitaph exists fine and clear, copied from the registry of Château-Richer dated March 29, 1671, as follows: "In the year of Our Lord Jesus Christ 1671, on the 29th of March died Marin Boucher after having lived as a good Christian and received the Holy sacrements of eucharist, penance and the last rights of extreme unction, was buried in the cemetery of Chateau-Richer by Monsieur Morel accompanied by the Reverend Father Nouvelle and by me doing priestly functions for them on the coast of Beaupre." ( signed ) F. Fillion, missionary priest

THE BOUCHERS ARE LEGION
The descendants of Marin Boucher are extremely numerous in America. " His descendants would today form a complete regiment," exclaimed the historian Benjamin Sulte 100 years ago, in speaking of Marin Boucher. In our day, the expression is not strong enough. It would be necessary to speak of an entire army.

FAMILY NAME VARIATIONS
According to Tanguay, the surname Boucher has given rise to no less than nineteen variations: Belleville, Cambray, De Boucherville, De Grosbois, De la Brutiere, De la Periere, De Montanville, De Montbrun, De Montizambert, De Niveville, Desnois, Desroches, Desrosiers, De Vercheres, Dubois, Simon, St. Amour, St. Martin, and St. Pierre.

This biography was taken from " Our French-Canadian Ancestors " by Thomas J. Laforest; Volume 4, Chapter 7, Page 62 [3-11-98 by James Gagne, http://www.jamesgagne.net]


Marin married Julienne du Baril on 7 Feb 1610/11 in St-Jean de Mortagne, ev. Sees, Perche, France.1 (Julienne du Baril was born about 1590 in St-Langis, Mortagne, Perche, France and died on 15 Dec 1627 in St-Langis, Mortagne, Perche, France.)

Marriage Notes:

Tanguay, vol 1 pg 71, shows marriage year as 1625

Marin next married Perrinne Mallet, daughter of Pierre Mallet and Jacqueline Liger, on 29 Mar 1629 in St-Langis-lès-Mortagne, Sées, Perche, France.2 (Perrinne Mallet was born in 1606 in Mortagne, Perche (Orne), France and died on 24 Aug 1687 in Château-Richer, Montmorency, Québec, Canada.)



Sources

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1 Institut Drouin, Dictionnaire National des Canadiens Français 1608-1760 (AFGS 1968), page 154.

2 Caron, Denise Helen, GEDCOM File: Caron-Braun Family.



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The French DNA Project (really a French Candian DNA project), and the Boucher DNA project, respectively list four and three Y-DNA samples for male line descendants of Marin Boucher. His male line relatives would presumably have shared his Y-DNA heritage. Marin Boucher had the Y-DNA haplogroup E3b. This yields information on the paths of migration of his long ago male-line ancestors.

(Most French Canadians, like most people of western France, are of the R1b and I whatever teh Scandinavian variant is Y haplogroups, with mtDNA haplogroup distribution that likewise tells us that 80% of the people of that area are descended from people who lived in Spain and western France at the height of the last ice age.)

The Border Reiver DNA project has a detailed discussion and breakdown of the E3b haplogroup, which is especially common in some parts of England. This discussion is extremely poorly documented. Its author ever refers only to Capelli's Y Chromosome Census of the British Isles, which never surveyed the genetic characteristics of Eastern Europe.

However, on the Rootsweb DNA list, where all matters pertaining to genetic anthropology are discussed, more recent DNA analysis being reserved for the DNA-anthropology list, there is agreement that the E3b haplogroup comes from the Mediterranean, eastern Europe and the Balkans, and its modern distribution is very consistent with the notion that Romans carried this subtype to such places as France and England. They may not ahve been alone; some aspects of the distribution leave one wondering if some people with certain I1 subtypes also came from eastern Europe with the Romans, even though the most common source of those subtypes in Western Europe is Scandinvia, as a result of an ancient migration northward from the Balkans. There people with the I haplogroup evolved their own subytpe, which today has further evolved.

Roman soldiers were stationed across France and Britain in large numbers. They often came from conquered territories in eastern Europe, the Balkans and the southwestern Russian steppes, as well as from Rome. Roman cities were also founded in France and Britain. Paris and York are two cities originally founded by Romans. In fact, most of the oldest cities in these areas were founded by Romans. Roman aristocrats had country estates across France. Roman trade and industry went on in both France and Britain. Retired soldiers were given land in Britain, all over Britain and especially in the northern counties along the modern border with Scotland, and in France, in large numbers. Where Roman soldiers were stationed, as in large numbers along Hadrian's wall in northern England, villages grew up to serve their needs and wants. They commonly had entire illciit families; wives and children, settled in the villages. When htey were allowed to, they often eventually married them and settled down with them. If they didn't the children still survived.

There are enough other signs of the survival of Roman genes in northern England. My father's Thompson ancestors, from a little village five miles south of hte city of York, had dark skin and hair, copious hair on their bodies, skinny frames, and the peculiar Roman-Mediterranean triangular pointy ears found on more than half of Roman paintings and drawings that contain people, that noone else ever quite managed the same way. THeir Celto-Roman ancestors would have settled into medieval English life when Danes conquered that area.

Some Y-DNA haplogroups that spread from the Mediterranean are found mostly outside that area among Jews, and the Border Reivers DNA project web site asserts that that is the case with some E3b subtypes.

Marin Boucher's Y-DNA exactly matches the E3b subtype 15, which according to the Border Reivers DNA web site, no specific source of the information provided, is found in the Rhineland, Poland, and Eastern Germany, all areas of substantial Jewish settlement. These areas were less settled by Romans. The conclusion is that Jews probably evolved this subtype and carried it into Europe. It sounds like there has been no study to ascertain if this subtype is indeed most common among Jews.

Large numbers of Jews settled throughout France from early medieval times. They were repeatedly chased around the country, chased out of the country, chased into the country, and forced to convert time and time again throughout French history. It is not unlikely that the Boucher's have Jewish heritage and no memory of that. Conceivably that is what brought their paternal line ancestor to Perche. Perche seems like a good place to go to avoid persecution; quiet and safe and relatively free of domination by Church and King alike. Or maybe the conversion happened further back in history and a descendant went to Perche with other people during the population expansion of the medieval warm period. In that time, this ancestor probably did not have the surname Boucher nor any surname, as the use of surnames began relatively recently. The word Boucher comes from a trade and means butcher, and people from varied parts of France took this surname to North America. There are however known medieval Jewish families who were persecuted in France named Baucher and Bocher.

Marin married Perrine MALLET on 29 Mar 1629 in St. Langis, Mortagne, France. (Perrine MALLET was born in 1606 in Mortagne-au-Perche, Perche, France and died in Aug 1687 in Quebec, Quebec.)

Marin next married Julienne BARIL, daughter of Jean BARIL and Raoulline CRETE, on 7 Feb 1611 in perche, Mortagne, France. (Julienne BARIL was born in 1586 in St-Langis or St-Jean, Mortagne, France.)