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“Captain” John Rogers  

 

How many “John Rogers” are there?

 

            1.         John Rogers who married Elizabeth Emory and  had a trading

                        post on the Hiwassee River in eastern Tennessee.  (Often called

                        Captain.)   (This one is the subject of this chapter.)

 

            2.         John Rogers who married Alsey Vann (Cherokee) and resided

                        on the Chattahoochee River among the tribe in Georgia.  (Also

                        called Captain.)

 

            3.         Captain John Rogers, son of #1 John Rogers and Elizabeth Emory

                        who fought in the War of 1812 and became Chief of the Old

                        Settlers.

 

            4.         John Rogers, son of #2  who married Sarah Cordery (Cherokee)

and also resided on the Chattahoochee River in Georgia.

 

            5.         John Rogers, mixed-blood or white, living with the tribe at Newton,

Georgia in 1830, and said to be poor.

 

            6.         John Rogers, grandson of #1 John Rogers, in Indian Territory by

                        1852.

 

            7.         John Rogers, unknown, in Indian Territory by  1840.

 

 

All of the above were born before 1810 and married into the tribe or were born into the tribe.  Trying to force all Cherokee Rogers through the John Rogers &

Elizabeth Emory lineage, therefore, has resulted in much confusion and bad genealogy.  Not even all the Western Cherokee Rogers can be accounted for

by the John Rogers & Elizabeth Emory line. At the 1835 Running Waters vote  there were six different John Rogers.  The Rogers family that is associated with the McDaniel Cherokee family on the Hightower River in Georgia emigrated to the west and may be descended from William Rogers or Thomas Rogers, of the 

same age as #1 John Rogers above.   In Starr, only the Western Rogers are

detailed, and since that is always the first source for Cherokee genealogy, a lot

of Cherokee Rogers descendants (especially in the east) have not found their

true ancestors because they took the Rogers & Emory shortcut.  Following the wrong trail will not get you home and will not bring you peace.  With that caution

let us re-examine the John Rogers & Elizabeth Emory line.

 

 

 

 

John Rogers of  Rogers Trading Post, Hiwassee River  

 

To the best anyone’s been able to figure, he appears to be born c. 1745 in

North or South Carolina and died before 1835 in Tennessee.  He did not fight in the War of 1812 (that was his son) and there is no record that he was ever a        

captain.  Two historians researching Samuel Houston referred to John Rogers as a Tory captain, so that is credible enough to continue to refer to him as captain

but there still is no proof.

 

His arrival on the Hiwassee River in Tennessee appears to be no earlier than

1794 (after peace with the Chickamauga was achieved) but he began having

children with Elizabeth Emory before the Revolutionary War (1776-1783) so this 

is an important clue in locating him.   Where was Elizabeth Emory in 1771?    

She had a child with Robert Dewes (Due) around 1770 and perhaps was married

to Ezekiel Buffington before 1770 (this is not known for sure but is stated by

reliable Buffington researchers).  Dewes and Buffington were based in South

Carolina.  Elizabeth Emory was most likely close to her sisters.  Older sister Mary

Was married to Ezekiel Buffington and younger sister Susannah was with Richard Fields in northeast Georgia.  It’s likely she (and Mary) were with

Susannah near Togaloo, in northern Georgia.  Elizabeth died during the war (c.1781), leaving Rogers with five young children and a step-daughter Jennie Due.  Around 1783 he began having children by his step-daughter.

 

In other words, he appears to be living with the tribe during the war, not serving

as a captain.  But the fact that he is with the tribe during the war almost certainly 

means that he was a loyalist, a Tory, as were most men associated with the

Cherokee Emorys.

 

In the 1797 list of persons residing in Cherokee country a John Rogers is listed

as a trader, along with John McDonald, Daniel Ross, Ellis Harlan and others.

This is likely our John Rogers, but a location is not given.

 

Robert Dewes, Ezekiel Buffington and Ellis Harlan have an Abbeville District,

South Carolina, connection, and there are plenty of Ross and Rogers families

in Abbeville to speculate on a connection there for them also.  But how about a

Huguenot connection for the Rogers?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A Huguenot Connection for the Rogers?

 

John Emory has a known connection to Purrysburg,  which was a settlement

for Swiss and French Protestants (Huguenots) in early South Carolina.  Could

he be “blending in” among Huguenots in the late 1760’s?  In the South Carolina

Council Journals for 25 March 1764 to 29 September 1764 the following land

bounties are noted:

 

            Daniel Due     (Dewes)                     Francis Bayle  (Bailey)        

Jeremiah Roger  (Rogers)               Jean Roger (John Rogers)

            Jeanne Petite  (Jane Pettit) Jean Aumeru  (John Amory)

            Michael Snider                                  Thomas Gown  (Goins)

 

Note: the Michael Snider above had descendants who married descendants of

Old John Hembree.  (See “Old John Hembree aka John Emory”.)

 

Don Milford, a Rogers family researcher, makes an incredible connection

between four of the above, in Abbeville District:  Jeremiah Rogers and

John Rogers are sons of John and Ann Rogers who settled in Abbeville

in 1765.   Ann’s mother was an Emery.  Ann’s will was dated 1776

in Abbeville and witnessed by John Emery and Peter Bayle.  A John Rogers  

in his line is completely unaccounted for (and is the right age to be our John).  His posts are below, in case I misinterpreted them.

 

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I don't know of any connection, but there is an odd coincidence here. Jean Roger (John Rogers) and Ann Lespine were married in St. Foy leGrande, France on December 15, 1738. They emigrated to Bordeaux, South Carolina (Abbeville County) in 1765 with their children Pierre, Jeremiah and Marguerite. Ann's mother was Henyre Eymery and her will, dated 1776, was witnessed by a John Eimory. Further more, Ann's sister, Henrye Lespine, married Izaac Eymery according to records in Eynesse, France. My great-aunt saw a reference to a third son of Jean and Ann although she could not remember where and I have not seen it. His name was John Rogers, but he was not listed in his "mother's" will nor is he accounted for in any of the South Carolina Huguenot records that I have seen.

I have never seen Rogers' and Eimory/Emory's connected any other place until your posting here.

Don Milford
February 24, 2003   post 12501 Rogers Forum on genealogy.com

 

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My Rogers line in the Huguenot settlement of Hillsboro in Abbeville County, SC is too well documented to be your direct line, but there are too many similarities to just dismiss it.


Pierre Rogers came to SC from France via England in 1764 and his stated age is 22. These records are from the Huguenot Council in Charles Town as well as the ship manifest of April 1764 in Plymouth, England. Pierre married Anna Beraud, the daughter of a fellow Huguenot on the ship. Pierre fought in the revolution but there is no record of him having gone to NC, but more about that later. Family records show them having 4 children. Peter Bayard and Paul married inside the Huguenot community and stayed in the immediate area. We have no information on Anna or William L.

 

Now, with that said, some other pertinent information. Although no records exist (that I know of) showing Pierre ever went to NC, I know from other lines of mine that some Abbeville County soldiers did fight in NC. My Milford ancestors were from northern Abbeville County, enlisted originally in Abbeville County and fought with Major Williamson in NC. They re-enlisted in NC for a second hitch. Further, both brothers married girls from Rowan County, NC (Fleming and Jamison). As a result, I know some Abbeville County soldiers were in NC. There might be a connection there.

Second, there was another Rogers (Robert) that sailed with my Roger's and settled in Hillsboro. I do not know what, if any, connection he has to my line.

 

Third, Pierre's mother, Anne Lespine Rogers, wrote her will in 1776 and it was witnessed by neighbors Peter Moragne, Peter Bayle, Peter Rocquemore, and Jacob Bailard (Baylord), all fellow immigrants from 1764. It was also witnessed by a John EIMORY who was not listed in any of the original settlers records. I still do not know who Eimory was or where he came from.

Fourth, a cousin hired a researcher in France to find information on Pierre's parents. She located their marriage record in St. Foy leGrand outside of Bordeaux dated December 15, 1738. She also found wills in Eynesse (about 10 miles west of St. Foy leGrand) for Hellies Lespine and his wife Henyre EYMERY that mention their daughter Anne, wife of Jean (John)Roger. Furthermore, Anne's sister Henyre has a record of marrying Izaac EYMERY.

The information you found on your William L. Rogers does not match the information on our William L. Rogers, but there are too many parallels and similarities to dismiss a connection outright.

Don Milford
April 30, 2003   post 12670 Rogers Forum on genealogy.com

 

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The Cherokee Children of John Rogers: 

 

He was b. 1740-1745 in South Carolina and d.c.1838? in Tennesee?.

He m(1)  Elizabeth Emory Due (Dewes) c.1772.  She b.1748  d.1781/2.

He m(2)  Jennie Due, his step-daughter, c.1785. She b. 1771  d.unk.

 

Children of John Rogers and Elizabeth Emory:

 

            i.          Capt, Charles Rogers b.c.1772  m. Nannie Downing

                        became a judge; emigrated 1817 (Old Settler)

 

            ii.         Aky Rogers   b.c.1774  m(1) George Hicks (Old Settler);

                        m(2) Daniel Vickery

 

            iii.        James Rogers  b.c.1776  m. Nannie Coody

                        (Old Settlers)

           

            iv.        Capt. John Rogers  b.c.1778  d. 1846 Washington D.C.

                        m(1)  Elizabeth Coody

                        (he became chief of the Old Settlers)

 

            v.         Nannie Rogers  b.c. 1780  (she was Old Settler 1817)

                        m(1)  Looney Price      m(2)   Nelson B. Grubbs

 

 

Children of John Rogers and Jennie Due:

 

            vi.        Anne Rogers b.c.1785  m(1) John W. Flowey?;

                        m(2)  Thomas Irons

 

            vii.       Joseph Rogers  b.c. 1787   d.young

 

 

            viii.      William Rogers   b.c.1789

                        m.  Nellie May    (he became a judge)       

 

            ix.        Susannah Rogers  b.c.1792

m.     Nicholas Miller

 

x.         Tiana Rogers b.c.1796      d. 1838            

            m(1) Sam Houston 1811  m(2) David Gentry c.1816

            m(3) Sam Houston 1829  m(4) Samuel McGrady 1836