Robert Hubbs, Jane Haviland

Robert Hubbs, 1753 - 1827

Bloomfield, Hallowell Township

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Why I am interested in this Family.
As a descendant of Robert Hubbs I have
a natural interest in Robert and his wife Jane Haviland. They came to Upper Canada as Quaker settlers in 1797 from Hempstead, Long Island. I want to thank Art Hubbs of Sand Lake, NY and Linda Smith for providing some of the material.

Use these links to jump up and down this page.
  1. Overview
  2. Was Robert Hubbs a Loyalist?
  3. Quaker Records
  4. Records of Robert and Jane Hubbs
  5. Children as recorded by Albert C. Bowerman in 1904.
  6. 1827 will of Robert Hubbs
  7. PLBQ
  8. Ancestors of Robert Hubbs

Robert Hubbs was born in 1753 at Hempstead, Long Island, New York and in 1778 he first married Mary Fowler. They had one son before Mary's early death about 1780. In Nov 1782, Robert Hubbs, cordwainer, married Jane Haviland in Hempstead. They had 7 children on Long Island until 1797 when they moved to Upper Canada where their 3 last children were born.

Was Robert a Loyalist?
It is recorded in the famous book, Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte [PLBQ - see below] that Robert Hubbs "was a Friend and an United Empire Loyalist who came from Long Island in 1797." It is true that he was a Quaker [Friend] but he was not on the UE lists maintained by the Upper Canada government. He did not petition for a free grant as a Loyalist nor did his children petition as sons and daughters of a Loyalist. As a Quaker he would have been disowned if he had been a Loyalist.

However there is an interesting 1833 affadavit concerning an application by his son Adam Hubbs to be an inspector of licences wherein it states that "his father served in the British Army during the revolutionary War but arrived in Canada a few months too late to entitle him to be placed on this list of those who were Adherents of the United Empire." This implies that Robert would have applied for a loyalist grant had he arrived earlier. He was a Quaker by the time of his arrival and it is hard to believe that he came to Canada for a free grant knowing that Quaker discipline would not allow it. Adam was probably stretching the fact to make the family appear "loyal". No record is known showing Robert Hubbs in a loyalist militia unit in Long Island.

When did they become Quakers?
Robert's first marriage was in St. George's Episcopal Church in Hempstead so he was not a Quaker in 1778. Robert and Jane were married in 1782 by banns in Long Island but the church is not named. It is assumed that this was not a Quaker marriage. At some point Robert and Jane Hubbs become Quakers in the Westbury Meeting on Long Island. These records have not been investigated to find the date of their "request" to join.

In 2001, Art Hubbs from Sand Lake, NY wrote to me this full analysis of the move as Quakers from Long Island to the Adolphustown Meeting.

"Josephine Frost (researcher) abstracted the Quaker removal certificates. The omission of some information has led to erroneous conclusions about Robert Hubbs, the Canadian Family Founder.
Robert was not a Quaker until the 1790's. The Quakers were not about to do anything in a hurry, so it took some time until Robert and Jane were accepted in the Westbury (Long Island) Monthly Meeting. This is documented on microfilm. To change membership from one meeting to another, one had to get approval from your meeting in the form of a removal certificate. In May 1799 Robert and Jane signed there intention to move to Canada. Their new meeting would be under Aldolphustown. Since this was only a Preparatory Meeting, the letter would have to go through the Nine Partners Monthly Meeting in Dutchess County. All decisions, marriages, etc, would have to be approved by the controlling meeting, even though people involved were never actually in that meeting."

Robert and Jane Hubbs were Quakers at the West Lake Meeting in Bloomfield that was initially under Adolphustown. It is concluded by Art Hubbs and myself that this couple did not actually live in Dutchess County for a time between Long Island and Upper Canada. The fact that they are in the Nine Partners minutes has led people to make this assumption but Art correctly points out that the Quaker process was to send removal certificates to the Monthly Meeting at Nine Partners which oversaw Adolpustown in 1799. PLBQ states that Robert and Jane landed in Upper Canada on 27 Dec 1797. This is possible - as they may have wished to come and see the land and its prospects before applying for the removal certificate.

Why did they emigrate?
This theory is based on circumstantial evidence and is nothing more than my gut instinct. It has been established, after much research, that John Haviland, loyalist from Long Island, arrived in Upper Canada by 1797 when he is granted free land in Cramahe as a settler. It wasn't till 1808 that he was put on the UE list. I have concluded but not proven  that this John Haviland is a brother of Jane Haviland. I suspect that John came earlier and encouraged his sister and brother in law to make the move. Robert and Jane had a large family and the prospects for their children to acquire farms necessitated, as it did for many families, that they move west. John Haviland never lived in Cramahe and did live in Adolphustown and Hallowell near the Hubbs family. In 1822 Robert Hubbs buys the Cramahe land from John Haviland and in his 1827 will adds this codicil.

I further order that a certain lot of land in Cramahe, Northumberland, known by the eighteenth lot in the sixth concession shall be sold by the executors and after deducting the charges on my books against that property that the balance be shared equally between Jane Benham and Nancy Haviland both daughters of the late John Haviland deceased and if either of the above named legatees should decease before my executors could effect such sale the remainder should become the property of the survivor.

The generosity of this gift to the two younger daughters of John Haviland speaks loudly that John Haviland and Jane [Haviland] Hubbs have a strong connection. As I said, I feel they are siblings.

Robert Hubbs bought Lot 17, First Conc East of Carrying Place in 1800. This lot is just east of Picton on the shore of Picton harbour near the mouth. It passed to Jane, his wife upon his death in 1827. In 1842 she and the children sold the farm to sons Adam and Amos Hubbs. In 1854, after the death of their mother, they sold the farm outside the family. Robert and Jane remained life long Quakers. In the 1828 schism, they sided with the Orthodox Friends against the Hicksites. Curiously, Elias Hicks records in his writings that he visited Robert Hubbs in 1803. Robert Hubbs dies in 1827 and leaves a lengthy will.
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To his excellency, Sir John Kilbourne KCB, Lietenant-Governor of the Province of Upper Canada etc., etc.
We the undersigned having understood that Mr. Adam Hubbs [Note: son of Robert Hubbs] of the Town of Hallowell, merchant, has applied to your excellency for the situation of inspector of licenses in the new district to be formed of the County of Prince Edward., beg leave respectfully to state in recommendation of his application that from his earliest infancy he has resided in the Township of Hallowell and is at present a respectable merchant therein, that his father served in the British Army during the revolutionary War but arrived in Canada a few months too late to entitle him to be placed on this list of those who were Adherents of the United Empire. -- That his character for integrity and sound loyalty stands deservedly high and he is amply responsible and fully capable of discharging the duties of said office.
We for these reasons respectfully recommend his application to the favorable consideration of your Excellency.
Town of Hallowell
21 September 1833
David Smith   Asa Werden
Wm. Rorke     Benj Hubbs JP
James Dougall JP  [?] Macdonald JP
Samuel Solmes JP  Owen Richards
James Cutter[?] JP  Andrew [?]
D.B. Stevenson  Alex McDonnell JP
              Thomas Nash  JP
              Henry McDonnell  JP
Source: Transcribed by Eric Bowler, National Archives of Canada film, # C6880, page 73420, emailed by Art Hubbs, May 26, 2007
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As you probably know, Robert and Jane were probably not Quakers until the late 1790s.  They married out of meeting and did not leave Long Island for Canada until after April 1799.  Swarthmore College has the meeting records detailing their membership and removal. The removal certificate led many people to believe that Robert and Jane were in Dutchess County which is not a fact.
Source: email from Art Hubbs, Sand Lake NY, Mar 2006

Robert Hubbs and his wife Jane Haviland, parents of Jemima Hubbs, lived in Long Island and removed from the Westbury Quaker meeting to Upper Canada in 1799. The removal certificate was sent to Nine Partners which at that time was the Monthly Meeting overseeing the Adolphustown meeting. It is assumed that Jemima was a Quaker by birth.
On 15 of 5 month 1799, Monthly Meeting  held at Westbury
To the Monthly Meeting of Friends at Nine Partners
Dear Friends – Robert Hubbs & his wife Jane being about to remove with their family to Upper Canada within the compass of your meeting requests our certificate thus having? the under? care of this meeting  these are to certify that Robert & his wife were Pretty steady attenders of this mtg consideration their situation & circumstances  &  ?? Inquiry it appears their lives & conversations are in a good degree orderly & their outward affairs settled to satisfaction as such we recommend them with their children named Benjamin, Robert, Mary, Jemima, Heveland, Adam & Amos – their being young, to your Christian Care & oversight, with desires for their groath in the truth & remain your friends Bretren & Sisters – Signed in & on behalf of our
by Daniel Titus  Clerk [and] Anne Mott  Clerk
Source: Removal certificate, Westbury Meeting, Long Island, photocopy from Art Hubbs, LDS 873511, transcribed Randy Saylor, June 2007

Robert Hubbs and wife Jane, children, Benjamin, Robert, Mary, Jemima, Haveland, Adam and Amos "they being young". From Westbury to Nine Partners, 15 of 5m, 1799.
Source: Removal Certificate, Nine Partners, p 58-62, Quaker removals, usgennet

Jane Hubbs, b on Long Island, d. 23. 12 mo. 1851, aged 85 years.
Hubbs, Robert Sr., b on Long Island, d. 1827
Source: Religious Society of Friends Records, AO, F997, West Lake Monthly Mtg Register, (orthodox) 1820-1882, MS303, B-2-62, reel 23, 1820

Earliest: 24 Feb 1800 - appointed to visit Icahobod Bowerman for membership.
Certificate: same meeting as above, dated 17 July 1799, children Benjamin, Robert, Heaveland, Adam, Amos.
Over 50 references to his name.
Source: Adolphustown Minutes, O-2-1

"Our next appointment was in the neighbourhood of our friend Robert Hubbs, on seventh day [7 Oct 1803] composed mostly of people not of our society", as written in the Journal of Elias Hicks relating his trip to Canada in 1803. From here to moved to Hallowell implying that Robert's home was east of Hallowell.
Source: Journal of the Life and Religious Labours of Elias Hicks, NY, pub Isaac Hopper, 1832, p. 107, TRL, Baldwin Room, 289.H37, copy WRS files
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April 20, 1788, Robert Hubs and Mary Fowler
Source: Records from St Georges Church, Hempstead, NY; NYGBR, 1883, Vol 14, p 116

"One Jane Haviland of Hempstead, spinster, m. Nov.25, 1782, to Robert Hubbs of Hemp., cordwainer. Her surety was Robert Hubbs, and his was Stephen Stilwell, innkeeper of Brooklyn."
Source: "The Haviland Genealogy", prepared by Josephine C. Frost., email Gayle Wray, May 2013

25 Nov 1782, Robert Hubs m. Jane Haviland, M. B.
Source: New York Marriages, 1600-1784
Original data: State of New York. Names of Persons for whom Marriage Licenses were Issued by the Secretary of the Province of New York, Previous to 1784. Albany, NY, 1860, Volume: XXXVII, OSPage: 93

This Indenture made this sixteenth day of July in the Year of our Lord one thousand and seven hundred and ninety two [16 July 1792] by and between William Rushmur of the Township of South Hempstead in Queens County and State of New York, yeoman on the one part and Robert Hubbs of the Township County and State aforesaid on the other part  Witnesseth that the said William Rushmur so far and in the Consideration of the just and full sum of one hundred and forty pounds of good current and lawful money of the State aforesaid to him in hand well and truly paid by the said Robert Hubbs before the Jusoaling? and silivery? of these presents the receipt whereof he doth hereby acknowledge and himself to be therewith satisfied contented and paid and therefrom and from every part and parcel thereof do exonerate acquitt and fully discharge him the said Robert Hubbs his His heirs executors administrators and such and every of them forever by these presents hath granted bargained and sold and by those presents do fully freely clearly and absolutly give grant bargain sell ??? ?voy and confirm unto him the said Robert Hubbs and to his heirs and assigns all that one certain dwelling house and barn and twenty acres of land whereon the said house and barn standeth sittuate lying and being near the south side of the great plains at a place called Turtol Hook [Note: Turtle Hook] within the bounds  of South Hampstead aforesaid which the said William Rushmur purchased of Jeramiah Bedel and is bound on the East and on the south by two highways on the north by George Rhodes and on the west by undivided land all which sd dwelling house and barn and twenty acres of land as afforesaid together with all the out houses stables garden yards ????? fences passtures wells fruit trees together with all and every the provilodges and appurtenances to the same belonging or in any wise appurtaining with the remainders and rovertions? thereof and all the estate right like jutorest? property claim and demand whatsoever of him the said William Rushmur of in and to the hereby granted and bargained premises and every part and parcel thereof to have and to hold all and singular the hereby granted and bargained premises unto him the said Robert Hubbs and to his heirs and assigns forever to his and their own and sole proper use benefit and behoof forever and the said William Rushmur do for himself his heirs executors and administrators covenant grant and agree to and with him the said Robert Hubbs his heirs and assigns that at the time of the jusoaling? and before the silivory hereof he was the true and sole lawful owner of the above bargained premises and is lawfully joined and possessed thereof in his own proper right in fee simple and hath in himself good right full power and lawfull authority to grant bargain sell and dispose of the same in manner as aforesaid and that the Robert Hubbs his heirs and assigns shall and may from time to time and at all times forever hereafter by virtue of these presents lawfully peaceably and quietly have hold use occupy possess and enjoy all the above bargained premises with the appurtenaces free and clear and freely and clearly exonerated acquitted and fully of and from all manner of Incumbrances whatsoever   Lastly the said William Rushmur to bind himself his heirs Executors administrators and each and every of them to warrant secure and forever defend all the above Bargained premises with their appurtenances unto the said Robert Hubbs and to his heirs and assigns forever against the just and lawful claims and demands of all persons whom savor? and Mary Rushmur wife of said William Rushmur so also soll? and make over all her dower and right of thirds to the above Bargained premises unto the said Robert Hubbs and to his heirs and assigns forever  In Witness hereunto the said William Rushmur and Mary his wife hath sott? to their hands and fixed their seals the year and day first above written
Signed sealed and delivered
In the Presence of
Abigail Clowes                               William Rushmur
F Clowes                                        Mary Rushmur
Source: Photocopy of original, mailed by Art Hubbs, transcribed by Randy Saylor, June 2007

24 Jan 1800, B&S, Paul Huff of Adolphustown sells to Robert Hubbs of the Township of Hallowell, 200 acres, lot 17, First Concession South, East of the Carrying Place, witnessed by Robert C? Williams of Ameliasburgh and Ruben Bedell of Adolphustown, sworn 25 Jan 1804 by Ruben Bedell and reg 30 Jan 1804. [Note. Lt Paul Huff was granted the lot 6 Apr 1799 from the crown and sold it to Robert Hubbs 6 months later]
Source: PEC, Deeds, AO, GS51943, #21

18 Jul 1842, Quit Claim, Jane Hubbs, Hallowell, widow of the late Robert Hubbs; William, Benjamin, Robert and Haviland Hubbs, all yeoman of Hallowell; David Barker, Picton, gentleman; John Vancleaf and Hannah his wife, yeoman, Hallowell; Charles Saylor and his wife Jemima, yeoman, Hallowell; Auheland? Southard and Sarah his wife, yeoman, Hallowell of the first part -- and Adam Hubbs, Picton Merchant; and Amos Hubbs, yeoman, Hallowell of the second part; for 500 pounds, did turn over 200 acres to the second part, lot 17, Concession East of the Carrying Place, 25 July 1842. Reg 27 Jul 1842.
Source: Deed, PEC, AO, GS5200, #3796

29 Jul 1854, B&S, Adam Hubbs, merchant, Picton, and Martha his wife, and Amos Hubbs, Hallowell and Abigail his wife of the first part sell for 260 pounds, to David B Hill, farmer, Hallowell, 200 acres, lot 17, Fisrt Concession East of the Carrying Place. Martha and Abigail release their dower rights for 5 shillings.
Source: PEC, DEED, AO, GS5200, #4159

There is a great signature of Robert Hubbs on the will of John Smith.
Source: RG22 - 159, Frontenac, GS1, reel 1224, 3d 7mo 1809

The death date March 15, 1857 is recorded in some places with no source indicated. Possibly the correct date is 15 Mar 1827.

In a list at the beginning Robert Hubbs, deceased 1827 and later in a second alphabetical list: Robert Hubbs, (named with his wife Jane below), member West Lake Mtg, deceased 1827.
Source: Religious Society of Friends Records, AO, F997, West Lake Monthly Mtg Register, (orthodox) 1820-1882, MS303, reel 23, B-2-62, reel 23, 1820
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Albert C. Bowerman was an active genealogist who collected much information in the 1890's and in 1904 prepared a large document that was never published. See his 1904 work and this image of the page in question.

            The Pr. Ed. Co. family of this name descended from (I) Robert Hubbs born 10 th May 1753, on Long Island N.Y., where he married - - - -? and had the foll. issue – viz. - -
            (II) William Hubbs born in L.I. mar. Phebe Bull, dau. Josiah and Mehitabel, (see Bull p - - -) and had –
                        (III) Maturah mar. Stephen Haight, set. Norrich.
(I) Robert mar. (2) Jean Haviland, born 2 nd Nov. 1766, in Queens Co. L.I. dau. of  - - - - Haviland and his wife Jemima Hall. (Jean Haviland had a brother Benjamin)
            (II) Benjamin Hubbs born in L.I. 27 th Oct 1783; mar. Sarah, born 30 th June 1784 near Albany N.Y. dau. of Daniel B. Way, later Sophiasburgh Co. Pr. Ed. (see Hugh Judge and Elias Hicks Journals). In Dec. 1799, Daniel B. Way was visited by Hugh Judge and in 1803, by Elias Hicks.
            (II) Robert Hubbs born in L.I. 3 rd Feb. 1786; mar. - - - McDonald, sister of John of Picton, lived in the Tp. of Hillier and built the Mill at Hubbs Creek above Wellington.
            (II) Mary Hubbs born in L.I. 27 th Mar. 1788; mar. Abram Barker a merchant tailor of Picton.
            (II) Jemima Hubbs born in L.I. 16 th Oct. 1790; mar. Charles Saylor, bro[ther] Lavinia who mar. Judah Bowerman
            (II) Haviland Hubbs born L.I. 7 th April 1793; mar. Martha Southard, sister of Archelaeus,
            (II) Adam Hubbs born in L.I. 2 nd July 1795; mar. Mrs Willet Casey Barker – built first tannery in Picton. (see photo)
            (II) Amos Hubbs born in L.I. 1 st Dec. 1797; mar. Abigail, dau. Josiah and Mary (Christy) Bull.
            (II) Hannah Hubbs born in Canada 5 th Nov. 1800; mar. John Van Cleaf, res. lot 2, 2 nd Con. Mil. Tract Co. Pr. Ed.
            (II) Anne Hubbs born in Can. 28 th April 1805; died 9 th Feb. 18 ? ?
            (II) Sarah Hubbs born in Can. 27 th April 1808; mar. Archelaus Southard, late Talbot St. Picton.
Source: Albert C. Bowerman, 1904, image 150

From my database:
  ROBERT5 HUBBS  (ROBERT4, ROBERT3, JOHN2, ROBERT1) was born May 10, 1753 in Long Island, NY, and died 1827 in Hallowell, PEC.  He married (1) MARY FOWLER, daughter of WILLIAM FOWLER and KEZIAH HALL.  She was born April 30, 1760 in Hempstead, Long Island, and died Abt. 1780.  He married (2) JANE HAVILAND November 25, 1782 in Source of date: James Milton Saylor, daughter of UNKNOWN HAVILAND and JERISHA HALL.  She was born November 02, 1766 in Long Island, NY, and died 1851 in 23. 12 mo. 1851, Hallowell.
                   i.    WILLIAM6 HUBBS, m. PHOEBE BULL.
                  ii.    BENJAMIN6 HUBBS, b. October 27, 1783; d. Abt. 1861; m. (1) SARAH WAY; b. June 30, 1784; d. February 02, 1841; m. (2) NANCY YOUNG STINSON.
                 iii.    ROBERT HUBBS, b. Abt. 1786; m. PHILA GARRETT.
                 iv.    MARY (POLLY) HUBBS, b. March 07, 1788, Hempstead, Long Island; d. March 06, 1837, PEC, ON; m. ABRAHAM BARKER, September 27, 1808, Hallowell; b. July 1781; d. March 1829.
                  v.    JEMIMA HUBBS, b. October 16, 1790, Hempstead,  Long Island, NY; d. May 18, 1876, Prince Edward Co.; m. CHARLES SAYLOR, April 02, 1812, Hallowell Twsp, Prince Edward County; b. December 24, 1786, Springfield, Burlington Co, NJ; d. May 19, 1853, Prince Edward Co..
                 vi.    HAVILAND HUBBS, b. April 01, 1793, Hempstead, Long Island; d. July 25, 1869, Picton; m. MARTHA SOUTHARD; b. July 03, 1800, USA; d. September 03, 1886.
                vii.    ADAM HUBBS, b. Abt. 1795; d. Abt. 1857; m. MARTHA PARKER.
               viii.    AMOS HUBBS, b. Abt. 1797; m. ABIGAIL BULL; b. Abt. 1797.
                  ix.    HANNAH HUBBS, b. November 05, 1800; d. August 13, 1876; m. JOHN VAN CLEAF, Bef. June 1822.
                   x.    ANNIE HUBBS, b. Abt. 1805.
                  xi.    SARAH HUBBS, b. Abt. 1808; m. ARCHELAUS SOUTHARD; b. Abt. 1806.
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[Some liberties taken in this transcription to shorten the wording]
Dated 22nd day of the twelveth month of 1821, Robert Hubbs last will and testament, of Hallowell, empowers his executors to sell as much of his estate as is needed to discharge his debts, ... gives his beloved wife Jane Hubbs, one good horse saddle and bridle, one good feather bed and bedding for her use, and to disppose of as she may think proper. Order my executors to lay out as much of my estate that is my home farm, lot 17 in the 1st concession of Hallowell, that shall be sufficient and deemed necessary for the support of my said wife in whatever part it may be her choice to live and to be claimed by her so long as she remains my chaste widow and no longer. I also empower my executors to take as much of my estate as as may be sufficient to bring up and support  my young children until they ???? mens and womans estate. Then I give and bequeath to my eldest son William Hubbs twenty five pounds for his birthright. I also give and bequeath Twenty Five pounds to each of my sons Benjamin Hubbs, Robert Hubbs, Haviland Hubbs, Adam Hubbs, and Amos Hubbs. I empower my executors to make an equal division of all the remainder of my estate real and personal together with all my goods and chattels among my children namely:  William, Benjamin, Robert, Mary, Haviland, Jamima, Adam, Amos, Hannah, Amey and Sarah. It is also my will that each of my children named herein shall have their share within one year after my decease and each of them giving security for their mother's maintenance. And those children that may not have arrived at a mans or womans estate or age are to receive their portions as they come of age, that is girls eighteen and boys twenty one and those of my children who are age suitable are to receive their second portions. I hereby order that they are hereby bound to give security to the younger children. ...   to sell and dispose of to the best advantage a lot or piece of land which I hold by deed from Esquire Peters of Haldimand, that is to say, the east side of said lots which is along the east side of the said lands now owned by my son Haviland Hubbs in the township of Hallowell  and containing by deed 115 acres.  I appoint Johnathan Clark of Ameliasburgh, Benjamin, Robert and Haviland Hubbs as executors. ....

Codicil - I further order that a certain lot of land in Cramahe, Northumberland, known by the eighteenth lot in the sixth concession shall be sold by the executors and after deducting the charges on my books against that property that the balance be shared equally between Jane Bunham [Dunham?] and Nancy Haviland both daughters of the late John Haviland deceased and if either of the above named legatees should decease before my executors could effect such sale the remainder should become the property of the survivor. Dated 21st day, 2nd month 1827. Witnessed by Samuel Baker, John Jones, and John Baker and the codicil is witnessed by Duncan B Graham Sarah Clandening and Samuel Baker and registered by Benjamin Hubbs this thirteenth day of October 1827.
Registered 3 Nov 1827.
Source: PEC, Deeds, Vol M, #1236, pg 95/6, AO, GS5196

Note: This will mentions John Haviland, deceased, and his two daughters Jane Bunham and Nancy Haviland. Is John a brother to Jane who is the wife of Robert Hubbs?
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The Prince Edward County Hubbs family are descendants of a collateral branch of that English family to which the philosopher Hobbes belonged. A member of the family crossed to America in the early days of the New English colonies. Some are mentioned as officers serving in the English colonial army during the French wars, and prominence is given to the gallantry displayed by a certain Colonel Hubbs in an enterprise directed against Louisburg. Other evidence tending to show that the family was one of good standing and importance are papers recently in the "session of Benjamin Hubbs, a son of William Hubbs, disclosing that the Hubbs were slave holders (a sign of affluence), and were settled either in Maryland or Virginia.

The pioneer of the family in Prince Edward County was Robert Hubbs. He was a Friend and an United Empire Loyalist who came from Long Island in 1797. The original deed of his property is still in the possession of his great-grandson, Richard H. Hubbs, barrister, of Picton.

When Robert Hubbs landed on December 27, 1797, in that little cove in Picton Bay, by which the True Blue Orphanage has since been built, he was accompanied by his wife and eight children; the youngest, Amos, being an infant at the time. His wife was Jane Haviland, a member of the family from whom has since descended the well-know, Lieutenant-Governor of Nova Scotia. Haviland, like Robert and Benjamin, is found as a family name in the genealogy of the Hubbs family.  In a very old Bible, now in the possession of Mrs. David B. Bowerman, it is recorded that Jane Haviland had a brother Benjamin, and that the Havilands were of Dutch origin. About the time that the Hubbs came to Canada, a John Haviland received a grant of land in Cramahe, which he afterwards sold to the pioneer, Hubbs. When our pioneer left the States, he travelled by what has since come to be known as the overland route; but as land alongside the river banks and bay shores had been previously settled by the disbanded military, he had to make his way further West than most of the pioneers of his day. Eventually reaching the head of Picton Bay, his first act on landing from his batteau was to cut down a tree for a canoe. It was around the spot where he hewed the tree that he decided to clear and make his homestead. That clearing has since attained local interest. Soon a log cabin, snugly nestled in the silence of the water-girt forest; it was replaced in time by a red frame house which Amos Hubbs disposed off to the Hill family, who sold it to the Hon. James MeQuaig, M.P.; and from his proprietorship it passed into the ownership of the True Blue Orphanage Society. The demands of increasing communication and the needs of military occupation led to the construction of the Danforth road, leading from the Stone Mills at Glenora to the Murray Carrying Place, and passing by the old Hubbs place. Along this road the soldiers marched on their way to Toronto during the War of 1812; and many a brave heart enjoyed the genial hospitality of the old pioneer. His house was also a rendezvous for the travelling ministers of the time; in 1799 his kindly welcome was particularly referred to by High Judge, a Friend preacher of note in the old days; and again in 1808 by Elias Hicks, the preacher founder of the Hicksites.

Robert Hubbs was twice married before he migrated to Canada. His first wife's name is unknown, but she bore him one son, William Hubbs, who settled on the east half of lot thirteen in the first concession of Hillier, at what is now known as Hubbsville. This son married Phoebe Bull, a daughter of the old pioneer, Josiah Bull, and had a daughter Matura, who married Stephen Haight and settled in Norwich. William Hubbs eventually joined his daughter at Norwich. Robert Hubbs worked for Corey Spencer on the north High shore for a wage of flour, with which he returned, carrying it upon his back; and when pursuing his way from his log cabin to the Spencer homestead he had to walk round the head of the Bay, cross the swamp and pass through the wooded site of the present Glenwood cemetery. As food was scarce the settlers depended largely on the fish they caught and the game they shot. Fishing was conducted as another of those makeshifts of necessity. Standing on a light raft, the fisher would use a two pronged steel fork with which to spear the plentiful fish. Having impaled one he directed the raft shorewards, pushing the fish along the 'bottom until the beach was reached. The steel fork was the only one possessed by the Hubbs for many years. For harvesting purposes they used a crotched stick with two prongs; but the same steel fork was serviceable in other sporting enterprises and served as a weapon of attack and defence against the wolves.

A Friend, of fine character and commanding presence, pioneer Robert Hubbs has left many descendants in the county of Prince Edward and the Bay of Quinte district, who invariably have been noted as big and solid men, blessed with strong minds and loyal sentiments, imbued with much common sense, and regarded as useful and valuable members of the community.

John C. Hubbs, son of Robert Hubbs, resides on the old homestead, first occupied by his father in 1851. He has led an active and useful life, having served during the Fenian Raid as Sergeant- Major of Prince Edward 16th Battalion, and holds a medal commemorating his service. He has served in the South Marysburg Council and as assessor. His eldest son, Hiram, was accidentally shot by one of his companions while duck shooting on Smith's Bay in 1903, and died a week later. He is interred in the Black River Bridge Cemetery.

Clarence H. Hubbs resides at home with his parents .

Benjamin Hubbs, the eldest son of Robert Hubbs, and a great, grandson of the pioneer, sat for some years in the Council, and is now leading a retired life in Picton. His son, Charles Hubbs, married Edith M. Grimmon, and occupies the old homestead; his children being in the sixth generation from the pioneer. Another son, Alva Hubbs, owns and occupies a fine farm, a mile distant, on the Black River road. They are both progressive, successful farmers, and take an intelligent interest in the affairs of the municipality.
Source: Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte, 1904, Pp. 402 - 405
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There has been a lineage around back to Robert Hubbs, b 1624 for many years, yet I have never seen a good article listing the sources. Hopefully over time primary documentation can be found to confirm what is widely written. Art Hubbs and Linda Smith have collected most of what I have and we welcome more help on this.

Generation 1


1.      ROBERT1 HUBBS was born about 1624 in Glouchester, England. He died about 1700. He married





Notes for Robert Hubbs:




Some kinfolks on Long island have sent me occasional copies of "The Long Island Forum", which I have thoroughly enjoyed.


On my mother's side I am descended from the following Long Island families: Hubbs, Denton, Seaman, Stevenson, Strickland, Lokerson-Kissam, Combes and Thorne. These I know, and there must be others that I do not know.


I am anxious that certain common genealogical errors be not repeated. I proved many years <ago that the wife of William Thorne of Flushing, L.I. was named Susannah and not "Sarah". Yet this original guess, for that is all it was is continually finding its way into print.


Again, the prominent ancestor of the Hubbs family is not John Hubbs, the patentee of Hempstead, nor was John's wife named "Silence". John Hubbs married Susannah Linnington, daughter of Henry and Catherine (Ellison) Linnington of Hempstead. "Silence" is a misreading of "Susannah", written with a long "s".


The true immigrant ancestor of the Hubbs family was Robert Hubbs of Gloucestershire, England, who was in Newport, Rhode Island as early as 1643, June when he was 19 years of age. In 1647 he bought a house and land of Caleb Carr in Newport, and in 1648 he exchanged it for a house and land in Newport then owned by Marmaduke Ward. In 1654 he made a deposition before the Dutch authorities signing it with his mark "R H" and stating that he was "of Glostershire, about 30 years old". In 1661 he bought a house and garden in Flushing, L.I., of William Haliet, but by 1668 he owned property on Madnans Neck, now Great Neck, Town of Hempstead, L.I. He died around 1700. He must have married in Newport, R.I., but we only know as yet that his first wife's name was Elizabeth...His second wife, whom he married in 1691 was Elizabeth (Redman) Mott, widow of Adam Mott (1620-1690). Her maiden name was not "Richbell".


Most of his six children, and we know he had six children from a letter to the Dutch authorities written in 1662 concerning a dispute over the ownership of his farm with William Hallett, were probably born in Newport, Rhode Island.


Of these, John Hubbs (1647-1697) appears to have been the eldest, and he is the patentee of Hempstead mentioned above.


A younger son, Robert Hubbs Jr., who married Hester .... is probably the ancestor of most of the present-day Hubbses through his son Alexander of Jericho, Oyster Bay, and his wife Amy .....

I know the names of all but two of these six children, but can trace the descendants of John and Robert only.


There are some seven of us Hubbs descendants who have been working on the Hubbs family, and we have only recently got into touch with one another. However, I am the only one who has concentrated on the first five generations. The 5th generation seems to be the key to all the rest. (the Rev.) B.E. Underwood


St. John's Rectory

96 Rumford Avenue

Mansfield, Mass.

Mad Nan's Neck - named after "Mad Nan" Heatherington, who claimed to own it. See The Book of Great Neck.


Adam Mott married twice. He had a son named Adam by each of his wives. Thus there were three Adam Motts in the same household.


[Note: Saddle Rock Grist Mill was a tidewater mill, owned at one time by a Hubbs. It has been restored and is still in operating condition. They lived on Madnan's Neck, now Great Neck, named after Mad Nan Hetherington. The Book Of Great Neck has pictures, maps etc. There is a good picture of the mill on Google.]


Source: Written by Rev. B. E. Underwood, The Hubbs Family, Long Island Forum, September, 1947. Copy sent to WRS Oct., 2001, by Arthur G. Hubbs of Sand Lake, NY.




houses -- Hubbs (Joshua) house

1953: 73

houses -- Hubbs house, Bethpage

1953: 73

Hubbs family

1953: 73 and 1957: 47, 48

Hubbs family -- The Hubbs family --- letter by Rev. B. E. Underwood 1949: 166+(L), 237+(L)

Hubbs, Nora

1986: 217


The Hubbs family -- by Rev. B.E. Underwood

1949: 166+(L), 237+(L)

A full set of the Long Island Forum periodical (1938-2004 ceased), is available in the

Patchogue-Medford Library Local History Room and Periodicals Plus Room.

Long Island Forum, published from 1938 to 2004, by the Friends for Long Island's Heritage. The Forum has ceased publication in 2004.


1864 Muttontown Road Syosset, NY 11753 Phone: 516-571-7600

Index to Long Island Forum 1938 - 2004:




"An ac of Trespass agst Robert hobbs of Nuport com by wm withigton" - p 143

At the Qter Session held at Nuport the 3 of dec Ano 1643; "Robt Hobbs paying chardges is acqted his in Indtmt." - p 150


Source: Documentary History of Rhode Island, Vol 2, being the history of the towns of Portsmouth and Newport to 1647 and the Court Records of Aquidneck, Howard M Chapin, Preston and Rounds, 1919, pp 143-150, copy sent by Art Hubbs, July 2007




"Shortly after present day Nassau County was settled in 1643, mills must have been built. The earliest records available from 1659 mention the towns mill. Unfortunately records of transactions at this time are not complete but those existing show that several members of the Hubbs family settled on the Great Neck peninsula in the late 1600's. They were engaged in milling as early as 1679 but it is not until 1702 that we find a record clearly traced to the Sadlle Rock Grist mill. On Feb 18, 1702, Robert Hubbs Jr of Madnan's Neck (present Great Neck) sold to Henry Allen "the full half of ye mill which was between my brother Alexander Hubbs and myself, with all that doth now belong unto said mill, mill stones, mill house, timber work, iron work, with one half of ye stream and dam. Henry Allen, a prosporous farmer and merchant, acquired complete control of the mill and passed it on to his son John who operated it during the 1700's"


Source: photocopy Saddle Rock Grist Mill, author and date unknown, Art Hubbs, July 2007


Bill of sale 6/23/1679 George Hewlett & Joseph Hutton to Robert Hubbs for the mill and stream formerly owned by William Smith deceased


Source: List of Deeds, Hewlett family?, GN Library, special file, Art Hubbs, July 2007


In 1715, Henry Allen is granted liberty "to set up grist mill on a creek that Hubbs had one on formerly."


Source: Onderdonk, Annals of the town of Hempstead, Art Hubbs, July 2007


May 1679, granted permission to Thomas Rushmore by Gov Andros to set up a grist and saw mill "upon a streamm running through on the west side of madna's Neck not yett taken up or improved". Morganstern says this was Saddle Rock Mill and Robert and Alexander Hubbs were the enxt owners but it is likely a mill to the south known as Cutter Mill.


Source: The Early History of Great Neck, M. Morganstern and Historic Structiure Report: Saddle Rock Grist MIll, 1978, Richard Winsche; from Art Hubbs, July 2007


Robert Hubbs and Elizabeth Unknown had the following child:


2.      JOHN2 HUBBS (Robert1) was born about 1646 in Newport. He died between Dec 1696-May 1697 in Hempstead, Long Island. He married SUSAN LINNINGTON. She was born in Hempstead, Long




Notes for John Hubbs: WILL


Hubbs, John, aged 50 or thereabouts, 31 Dec 1696. To wife Susannah use of house & lands till sons John & Robert come of age. Then to John to have the dwelling and land adj. Wife sole exx. Wits: Henry Taylor, Richbell Mott & Joseph Sutton. Pro 23 may 1697


Source: NYGBR, Vol 65, Jan-Oct 1934, copy mailed by Art Hubbs, July 2007


John Hubbs and Susan Linnington had the following child:


3.               i. ROBERT3 HUBBS was born in 1676. He died about 1737. He married Susannah Forman, daughter of Arron Forman Jr\ and Susannah Townsend in 1716. She was born in 1696 in Long Island. She died in 1727.

3.      ROBERT3 HUBBS (John2, Robert1) was born in 1676. He died about 1737. He married Susannah Forman, daughter of Arron Forman Jr\ and Susannah Townsend in 1716. She was born in 1696 in Long Island. She died in 1727.



Notes for Robert Hubbs:


Robert Hubbs, listed as an inhabitant of Hampstead, Long Island, 11 Oct 1683

Source: List of Inhabitants of Colonial New York, EB O'Callaghan, 1849-51, 4 Vols, Genealogical Pub Co, reprint, 1979, TRL, 929.3747 D57, page 147




Source: from Art Hubbs, pedigree Chart, July 2007


1711 Indenture


"... full power good Eight & lawful! authourity to Sell and dispose of the same in manner as aforsaid and that the said Henry Alien his heirs and Assignes shall & may henceforth and forever hereafter Lawfully peacably and Quiettly have hold use Occupie posses & Enjoy the above granted premises with the appurtenances thereof (exept as before Exepted) free & clear & clearly acquitted & discharged of & from all and all manner of former and other gifts grants bargains salles Leases Mortgages Joyutures Dowers Judgments Executions Entaills fortietures and of & from all other titles troubles Charges & Encumbrances whatsoever had made Comitted Done or sufered to be done (Exept as before Exepted! by the said Eoberd Hubbs his Heirs or Assignes before the ensealling & delivery hereof & further the said Eoberd Hubbs doth hereby Covenant promise bind

&  oblige himself his Heirs Executors and Administrators from henceforth A forever hereafter to warrant and defend

all the above granted premises and the appurtenances thereof unto the said Henry Alien his Heirs

&  Assignes against the Lawfull Claims and demands of all & Every person or persons whomsoever that shall or doth Lay any lawfull Claim thereunto (exept as before Exepted) in wittnes whereof the said Roberd Hubbs hath hereunto sett his hand A seall the twenty secuud day of May in the year of of our Lord one thousand seven hundred A' Eleven


Signed Seald & delivered in presence of


John Johnson              Roberd X Hubbs (S)

Jo'n Foster                                       mark


William Willis

Memorandum that on the twenty and Secuud day of may: 1711 the within Named Roberd Hubbs personally appeared before mee John foster one of her Majesties Justices for the Keeping the peace for Queens County Assigned and acknowledged the within written Deed to be his Reall & Voluntary act and deed Jo'n Foster"


Source: Hempstead Town Records, p. 429, photocopy from Art Hubbs, book not fully named, June 2007



There are numerous Hubbs references in HTR. Also a will of Robert Hubbs in 1737. Source: email from Art Hubbs, Sep 2006


Notes for Susannah Forman:



Birth and death

Source: from Art Hubbs, pedigree Chart, July 2007




Wife of Robert Hubbs

Source: The Formans of New York, 1645-1945, Henry Chandlee Forman, Agnes Scott College, 1945, p. 16 , photocopy from Art Hubbs, July 2007


Robert Hubbs and Susannah Forman had the following child:


i.        ROBERT4 HUBBS was born about 1727 in Hempstead, Long Island. He died on 17 Apr 1758.



Notes for Robert Hubbs: LIVED


Name: Robert Hubbs Event: Lived

Year: 1790 Place: Oyster Bay County: Nassau


Province:     New York

Source: 1790 Federal Census of New York State Publisher: Government Printing Office Publication info: Washington, DC, 1908.


Page:    155, 6

Source: email: Linda Smith, sep 23, 06




Page 90.--In the name of God, Amen, July 28, 1737. I, ROBERT HUBBS, of the town of Hempstead, in Queens County, being sick, I leave to my son Robert, all my farm and land on Great Neck, with my house and barn, and all rights of land yet to be taken up in the lands of Hempstead. I also leave him a horse, 4 cows, cart, ploughs, and a negro man. "I give 10 in money to John Doty, that is in burches land." The rest of my farm is to be used for the bringing up of my sons. I leave to my grandson Robert Mistabell 50 pounds, and to my daughter Susanah Mistabell 1/2 of my movables. I make my friends George Hewlett, Jacob Smith, and John Doty, executors. I commit my son Robert to the care of Jacob Smith, to be brought up as he shall think fit; and if the rest of my farm is not sufficient "for to bring up my son to Learning in a handsome manner," enough money is to be taken for that purpose. From "New York County Wills 1730-1744" on

Source: email: Linda Smith, sep 23, 06








Column Three: County #, Volume #, Page #


New York County, New York Will Testators




1764. Feb. 13. Hubbs, Jacobus, and Mary Blatsley, M.B., viii. 59 1764. Oct. 19. Hubbs, Job, and Phebe Smith, M.B., viii. 363 1782. Nov. 25. Hubbs, Robert, and Jane Haviland, M.B., xxxvii. 93 1775. June 22. Hubbs, Sarah, and Joseph Wilson, M.B., xxiii. 73 New York Marriages to 1784" on Source: email: Linda Smith, sep 23, 06

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