Note: any relation to Josef Scharmann (abt 1831 - 10/4/1882more bur. Vienna) NFP-more & Laura (Lori) Kobler, daughter of Jakob (1806 - 11/25/1891) NFPmore & Rosalie Schulz (1816 - 1/1/1904 Vienna) NFPmore ?

• Eduard (Ede) GOTTHILF von MISKOLCZ ennobled 1885 from Timişoara /Temeschburg, Temeswar, Temeschwar, Temesvár, Hungary today's Romania. occupation: substantial Jewish Industrialist, owned a Sawmill in Timişoara. Died: 1890 + Josefine (Josephine) STERN from Timişoara?
  • Franz GOTTHILF von MISKOLCZ Born: 1861 in Timişoara, Romania. Died: abt 1918 Vienna + Adele (see GARTENBERG family) Born: 1872 in Drohobych, L'vivs'ka oblast, Ukraine Father: Moses Gartenberg (abt 1841 of Drohobych /Drohobycz, Ukraine - 3/15/1916 Vienna) NFP ehrenburgers der stadt Drohobycz, grrossindustriellen und grossgrundbesitzers Mother: Chaje, Ottillie Tille Reingewürz *geni-more

• Ernst GOTTHILF von MISKOLCZ Born: Oct 1, 1865 in Timişoara, Romania. occupation: Architect 1901-1903 in Timişoara, architect of "St. Gisela" orphanage. Died: Sep 17, 1950 in Oxford, England age 84 + Else (Henne) M T ZIFFERER Born: Jan 15, 1874 in Vienna, Austria. Married: Mar 20, 1892 in Vienna. Died: Nov 6, 1965 in Hampstead, London, UK age 91 Siblings: Erwin Paul Zifferer (3/26/1876 Vienna - 8/8/1928 or 29more Vienna) & Lilly Strakosch "ch. Lotte (1906 Germany - ) & Ernest Lenard {parents of Liesl, Chuck}, Rudi (1908 - ) & Gyorgyi Schwarz", dr Hans Zifferer (1883 - bur 10/10/1929) & Sophie Sedlacek (1886 - 1996) "ch. Hans (5/11/1921 Vienna - 4/25/1997) & Teri Matejovics (born private" Father: Donat Zifferer (1845 Bystřice pod Hostýnem /Bistritz am Hostein, Moravia - 9/29/1909 Vienna) NFP Viennese architect of the city Donath brother of Ignaz, Hanni & Leopold Wolf "ch. Theodor", Appollonia (Ploni) & Leopold Redlich salami factory ?same as on Fanto page? "ch. Resi, Tini, Klara, Ernest", Joseph (Pepi) & Julie (?) "Bruno, Ida & dr Karl Waldek (1872 - 2/18/1918 Vienna) NFP [brother of Ludwig Waldek, Louise & Heinrich Mannheimer, Gustav], dr Alfred & Lizzy (?) {parents of Anna}, dr Paul & Wanda Rettlich (1889 - 1958) {parents of Marielore (1916 - 1991) & Henri Rouveyre <parents of Martine & Dominique Arnoux [parents of Mathilde, Clement], Dominique & Jacques Simonet [parents of Thomas, Jean]>}", Max & Kathi (?), Fanny/Fanni (1/6/1839 - 12/13/1909) & dr Leopold Toff (5/8/1831 res. 1880 Bistritin, Moravia - 2/15/1906) "ch. Toni & (?) {parents of Lotte}, Robert, Paula, Henriette, Jakob" Mother: Rosa Schüller (1851 Paderborn, Germany m. 11/3/1872 Berlin - 2/5/1911 Vienna) *Donat & Rosa are grandparents of Lotte Zifferer, Rudolf Zifferer P-grandfather: Bernhard Zifferer ( - 3/23/1873 in Bystřice pod Hostýnem, Moravia) brother of Freuderl, Max & Kathi (?) "ch. Lotte" P-grandmother: Lotte Pollak (abt 1817 - 8/23/1883 Nová Bystřice /Neu Bistritz, Bohemia, bur in Holešov cem.) NFP M-grandfather: Simon Schüller Pg-grandfather: Donat (Dan) Zifferer Pg-grandmother: Anna (?) Pgg-grandfather: Joseph Zifferer Pggg-grandfather: Dan Zifferer aka. Czifra

  Note: wikipedia ".. Ernst ..After 2 year practice at Helmer and Fellner, he started his own business with 27 years of age. His first assignments were mainly apartment houses and residential and commercial buildings. The most prominent clients in this period was the body of the Vienna Sales team and their hospital in the Peter- Jordan- Strasse. 1909 Ernst Gotthilf, Alexander Neumann founded a joint office, which soon became a leader in Vienna. They built apartment houses , villas and palaces, and made themselves as planners of bank buildings a name. Even during WW-1, it was possible for them to perform public works contracts. Only after the war and the consequent loss financially customer orders were received barely one more. Ernst emigrated to Anschluss, Austria to the Third Reich and England, where he settled in Oxford. His wife, daughter of the then-known Viennese architect of the city Donath also died in 1965 in England."

  • Stephan GLANVILLE (born GOTTHILF von MISKOLCZ) name changed when he moved to England. Born: 1894 in Vienna. Died: Jul 13, 1963 age 69 est + Elisabeth "Lisbeth" (see REDLICH family) Born: Jun 12, 1901 Died: Dec 1963 or 83 in Vienna Father: dr. Friedrich "Fritz" Redlich (8/18/1868 Hodonín (Göding), Moravia - 11/15/1921 Hodonín) sugar manufacturer NFP Mother: Emilie "Emmy" von Taussig (12/25/1876 Vienna - 3/14/1962 Vienna)
    • Ernest GLANVILLE Born: private + Kitty PICK
      • Helen GLANVILLE private + Chris JOHN
        • Freddie JOHN private
        • Clara JOHN Born: private

    • Marietta GOTTHILF Born: private + Paul CASPARI Born: private
      • Joanna Margaret CASPARI Born: private + Alan NEWMAN
        • Claudia NEWMAN
        • Stephanie NEWMAN Born: private

      • Andrew Stephen CASPARI Born: private + Sally FLATMAN Born: private
        • Will CASPARI private
        • Kate Eleanor CASPARI Born: private

  • Charlotte (Katzi) GOTTHILF Born: Jun 27, 1898 in Vienna, Austria. Died: Sep 13, 1966 in Chelsea, London, England age 68 + Istvan CZIGLER de EGERSZALOK Born: Jan 23, 1889 in Budapest, Hungary. Married: Dec 8, 1919 in Vienna. Died: Apr 26, 1944 age 55 Father: Armin Czigler (1854 - 1917) lawyer Mother: Regina Lindenbaum (1864 - 1945 Budapest, Hungary) sister of Mavi? (1862 -), Hemina (1866 -), Max (1868 - 1938 USA) P-grandfather: Marton Czigler (1826 - 9/3/1907 Egerszalók, Hungary) tailor, freedom fighter active in the 1848 revolution, 1869 possibly in Veľký Kamenec, Slovakia P-grandmother: Szali (?) (1826 - 7/28/1890 Eger, Hungary) M-grandfather: Bernhard Lindenbaum (1840 -1900) estate agent M-grandmother: Fanny Wachsmann (Vienna - )
    • Toni GERARD Born: Mar 27, 1921 in Budapest, Hungary. Died: Jun 13, 2006 in London, England age 85 + Lajos GADOROS Born: Jun 23, 1910 Married: in Budapest. Died: 1991 age 81 est

    • Liselotte CZIGLER Born: private + Geoffrey Alan GILBERT Born: Dec 3, 1917 in Watford, England. Married: Dec 24, 1948 in Birmingham, England. occupation: 1960 Professor of Biochemistry, Birmingham University. Died: Mar 1, 2005 in Birmingham age 87 Father: Arthur Charles Gilbert (10/23/1886 Queens Park, London - 12/4/1967 Birmingham) chief commercial representative LMS railway Mother: Miriam Mabel Cull (3/16/1886 Holborn, England - 11/29/1978 Birmingham) P-grandfather: John Gilbert (6/10/1849 Nottingham, England - Paddington, London) coachbuilder P-grandmother: Sophia Rayner (4/21/1851 Spalding, England - 2/28/1930) M-grandfather: Charles Edward Cull (4/21/1855 Marylebone, London - ) decorator, lamplighter M-grandmother: Ellen Snell (9/1857 Mortimer, England - )

      Note: more ancestors and relatives, as well as Barge ancestors can be found on Ancestry private Tree, going back to the year 760

      • Nigel GILBERT Born: private + Jennifer Mary ROE Born: private Father: Henry Victor Roe (4/13/1919 - 8/7/1988 West Super Mare, England) Mother: Dorothy Mary Wade (private) *more

      • Anthony GILBERT Born: private "source" + Veroni BARGE Born: private Father: Ronald Mansfield Barge (private) Mother: Elizabeth Ann Lamberton (private) P-grandfather: Kenneth Barge (5/27/1883 Chorlton cum Hardy, England - 1/1971) P-grandmother: Debonair Eva Ruth Mansfield (9/28/1891 - 1959) daughter of Sir Herbert Mansfield (12/1855 Blandford St Mary, England - 1938 Woodbridge, England) & Debonnaire Lydia Campbell Ross (abt 1872 - ) M-grandfather: John Robertson Lamberton (abt 1888 Coatbridge, Scotland - ) M-grandmother: Monica Wanda Smith (12/1907 Tewkesbury, England - ) *more
        • Drummond Arthur GILBERT Born: private
        • Maxwell Kenneth GILBERT Born: private
        • Alexander Lamberton GILBERT Born: private

    • Steven Andrew GERARD Born: private + Geraldine Mortimer WINCH Born: private Father: Jack Winch (7/20/1904 Hatley St George, Sandy, England - 7/1998 Oxford, England) Mother: Janet Smallbone (1/27/1905 Berkshire, England - 10/1990 Kensington and Chelsea, London, England) *more
      • Christopher Michael GERARD Born: private + Fiona Gillian HAWTIN Born: private Father: Thomas Edward Hawtin (3/3/1927 London, England - 6/11/2001 Guildford, England) Mother: Aileen Gillian Barnby (private)
        • James Steven Thomas Czigler of GERARD Born: private
        • Charles John Christopher Czigler of GERARD Born: private

      • Nicholas John GERARD Born: private + Sharon A MILES Born: private Father: Roger H Miles Mother: Ann R. Taylor
        • Harry Nicholas GERARD Born: private
        • Georgina Scarlett GERARD Born: private

• Aladar (Alfred) Ferenc Feri? GOTTHILF + Ilona MLKO *2nd wife: Adele IVANDY
  • Magda GOTTHILF + Elek NEUSCHLOSS
    • Ilonka NEUSCHLOSS Born: private

  • Zsuzsi GOTTHILF Died: 1944

• Irma von GOTTHILF Born: 1863 Died: 1943 + Paul (see BRAUN family)

• Wilhelm GOTTHILF occupation: Privatiers from Vienna. Died: May 14, 1882 in Timi şoara, Romania NFP