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1. David[1] LLOYD 1st & others
(David LLOYD 1st & others The Loyalists of New Brunswick).
Died, circa 1804.
Occupation: military.
Individual flags: *ANC, army. #4435.
Text #2835:
1871 Census of Carleton County., New Brunswick:
LLOYD .... Jerimiah. M 25 b NB FCBapt Irish farmer M; Lydia F 24
M; Frances F 1
LLOYD .... Jeremiah. M 75 b NB FCBapt farmer W died Oct 1871
heart disease
LLOYD .... Sidney .. M 28 b NB ..Bapt Irish farmer M; Hariet E F 30 M
LOYD ..... C. M..... M 26 b NB FCBapt English farmer M
.......... Amanda... F 22 ..same
.......... Norris... M .5
.......... Caroline. F .3
...........Albert... M .2
Centreville lists LLOYD, Jeremiah jnr, Jeremiah sen, Sydney all farmers
LOYD...... James ... M 33 b NB FCBapt Eng farmer M
.......... Phebe ... F 25 same M
.......... Almer ... M .4
.......... Henry ... M .2
LOYD ..... Charles M M 70 b NB FCBapt Eng farm M
.......... Mary .... F 60 same
.......... Isabel .. F 37
.......... Gideon .. M 35
From E. C. Wright's "The Loyalists of N.B.", page 309 - David
LLOYD - service during the revolution was with the Royal Fencible
Americans; no mention of his former home; also an Andrew LLOYD
mentioned.
After the N.B. Provisionals were disbanded on July 29, 1802, David
LLOYD & others petitioned for land.
In a petition by David's widow's 2nd husband, John Tompkins, it
states that David moved from Kingsclear to Wakefield Parish in 1803 &
died within a year. He left 5 children but only 4 are mentioned:
James, Charles, Jeremiah & Hannah. The widow married John Tompkins in
1806.
David & Elizabeth settled on lots 62 & 63 near the Peel-Brighton
Parish line about 1803. David died soon after.
According to the Land Petition of 1820 by Charles LLOYD for lots
#62 & 63 he was 22 years of age, brother James was 25 & sister Hannah
Winslow was 18 (Winslow is Hannah's middle name - not another son of
David's)
Heirs of David LLOYD per land petition below Peel July c1820 -
were they David's children or grandchildren?
Copied from Daryl R. Hunter's "The Settlelrs of Northern Carleton
County 1783-1883" completed June 1974:
Page 23 "c1809 settlers around area of Peel, Florenceville,
Presqueile Settlement & Hartland had to travel by horse-drawn wagon
for a distance of 12 miles to get their grain ground & often met with
disappointment even at that distance. In October of 1820, John
Giberson decided to build a grist-mill on a brook located about a half
mile above his homestead (Stickney Brook). However, he knew that the
lots in that location (76 & 77) were reserved for public use, & so he
got up a petition of names requesting that a grist-mill be built, &
demonstrating its great need. Among the signatures on the petition
were Josiah Brown, Arthur Nicholson, William Nicholson, Hugh McGuigan,
Daniel Palmer, John Tompkins Sr., John Tompkins Jr., William Flanagan,
John Flanagan, Benjamin Stickney Sr., Newman Raymond, Nathaniel
Stickney, Elijah Tompkins,
Charles LLOYD 1* 1820. The mill seat ?
was granted the following spring.
(1* The Charles Lloyd who signed Giberson's petition would be
Charles Lloyd Junior born 1798 of age 22 in that year. Charles & his
brother, James, sister Hannah Winslow Lloyd, were all heirs of the
late David Lloyd, according to a petition for land below Peel in
July of that year. It also mentions that their father was a good
friend of the late Honourable Edward Winslow, Esquire.")
Page 29 "The first county election was held on May 1, 1852, & the
elected parish representatives were: Leonard Harding, Amos Gallop for
Wakefield, William Estey James Jones for Simonds; Zephanian Mills,
Robert Kerr for Wicklow; Samuel Dickinson, Charles Lloyd for Brighton;
Murphy Giberson, Jonas Fitzherbert for Kent; Henry Dibblee, William
Lindsay for Woodstock & George Clowes, John Shea for Northampton."
Page 32 "As mentioned, Florenceville got its first Way Office in
1858 & S. G. Burpee was the Way Officer. Mail was delivered by Stage
Coach owned by the Woodstock Stage Coach Company, which was
incorporated in 1836 & later sold out to J. R. Tupper in 1839, & who
managed the line for 27 more years. James Tupper owned a large store
at Wakefield (Victoria Corner), which was the rendezvous for certain
militia companies serving during the boundary excitement. He was also
the paymaster for the 2nd Batallion for Carleton."
Page 42 "List of first grantees along the St. John River from
Indian Island to Shiktehawk Island (Woodstock to Bristol) Grant #497
dated 21 July 1809; included:
Asa KEMBLE, William PROSSER, Jeremiah PROSSER, John Giberson"
Page 48 "School returns 1877: John Lloyd 20 b. 1867,
............................. Murray Lloyd 7 b. 1870;
............................. Kate Lloyd 5, b. 1872;
............................. Alice Lloyd 5 b. 1872"
* In Vol 3 N.B. Vital Statistics from Newspapers 1824-1828 there is a
death notice of a John Tompkins of Wakefield July 31, 1827 (NBC, CG,
BC) who left a wife & 7 children.
X11+ LLOYD James A. James could not be located in 1851 census of
. . . . . . . . . . Carleton County, Parish of Brighton, but in Kent
Parish there was: William JONES & wife Mary & three step-children:
__________________James, Sarah & Samuel LLOYD
"A Short History of Car. Co. N.B." by T.C.L. Ketchum, Car. Co.
formed April, 1852 & Charles LLOYD represented Psh. Brighton
ref Gen. Vic Co
LLOYD Marshall ________Regina ___ brother
MacDONALD Mrs. Duncan- Briston __ sister
MacDONALD Mrs. James - Medford __ sister
McQUADE Wilbur b 1872 d 16 Feb 1939 heart attack bachelor at
Tilley; native of Johnville; lived several years in Alberta,
returned to NB 1924
Probate Records Book #1 1833-1873 index Carleton Co. files at PANB
- but film F1047 inter-library loan LOYD James pg 11
Journal of House of Assembly of New Brunswick 14 Feb 1854 (page
20) Hon. Mr. Montgomery presented a Petition from Charles LLOYD,
Gauger & weigher at the port of Dalhnousie, praying compensation for
his services in that capacity; which he read 10 March 1854, page 146
"Mr. English by leave presented a Petition for Wm. A. NEVERS, Charles
M. LLOYD, Samuel HAYDON & 33 others - inhabitants of Carleton County -
to elect members to General Assembly."
from "The Grant Connexion" by Ruth Winona GRANT: pg 83 - children of
William GRANT Jr. & Jane PLUMMER - of 13,
#12 Christopher Columbus GRANT born 16 Aug. 1843
- married Sarah M. LLOYD on 18 March 1865, died 1928 (not our
Sarah)
"The Tompkins Family of Car. & York Co., N.B.
- R 929.2 TOM" there are no LLOYD (Faulkner, John N. pg 86)
?? X LLOYD .. b ? d ? before 1835
m
___ Mary b 1800 d ?
Children:
X-1 LLOYD James b 1820 in NB Irish
X-2 LLOYD Sarah b 1830 infirm
X-3 LLOYD Samuel b 1833
X-4 LLOYD James - military settler, Car. Co. land grant 1825 &
same? father of X-1 James b 1820?
X5 LLOYD Cora (nee Campbell) is Talmage Campbell's sister; she
____________resides Perth Manor 1982
LLOYD James Joseph - farmer - Kent - Anglican b? d?
married
[?] Mary b? d? but she was baptized as adult 1 Oct. 1821;
Children: X10 LLOYD Burns 1871-1934 buried Currie Cemetery N.Tilley
_______P 137 (in Bath, date?, Burns & Samuel
Lloyd, farmers
X11 LLOYD Ratchford F d 11Aug 1920 - 64 yr 4 mo (b1856)
____________________ Currie Cemetery, Tilley
X12 LLOYD Caroline M 1944-1947 Plaster Rock Cemetery P110
X13 LLOYD R. Peter Swales 1879-1924, husband of S.J.Lloyd
X14 LLOYD Sarah Jane Salt 1883-1970 wife of R.S.P.Lloyd
X15 LLOYD Evelyn d/o James & Ruby LLOYD 23 Dec 1912-15 Oct 1936
_______________________________________ Union Corner Cemetery
X16 LLOYD James 1890-1948 Union Corner Cemetery
X17 LLOYD Ruby 1890-1959 Union Corner Cemetery
X18 LLOYD Leslie -see Turney, Frank Bertram
X23 LLOYD Ellen (P. Thomas & Isabella) U.S. farmer #381 born
10 Jun 1836; __bapt 25 Mar 1838 - Anglican Church Records -see X31
X24 LLOYD Nancy (P. Thomas & Isabella) U.S. farmer bo 4 Jun 1837;
_________________bapt 25 Mar 1838 Anglican
X25 LLOYD Mary (adult) Psh Kent; bapt 2 Oct 1821
Reply to Etta's letter to Hazel Watson, Perth, April, 1983:
"A compilation of LLOYD lines settled near Salmon River, Queens
Co., N.B. The LLOYD's are probably Welsh extraction. Pages 1 thru 88
compiled by Otis I. Logue/63 LL 151, 152; 160-183 1962-132 Waterloo
Row, Fredericton NB E3B 1Q1; pages 89 thru 150 compileld by Hazel
Lloyd Watson 93 LL 153-159; 184-219 1978 - Hazel Lloyd Watson; David
Lloyd George, Prime Minister of Great Britain, supposedly one of clan;
supposedly a large tract of land in Westminster, London, belongs to
Lloyd's. You can have it if you can prove it. Hazel says "our folks
settled in Chipman area. Then William moved to Gordonsville - I am
descended through William.
X34 LLOYD Thomas _born 1820 died 6 Sept 1900
X35 LLOYD William born 1821 died 1 June 1892
X36 LLOYD James went to United States & lived in Boston area
- know nothing more of his family
X37 LLOYD Catherine - married Frederick CARPENTER
X38 LLOYD Ann - married Timothy WEBBER
X39 LLOYD Anna Marie d/o?
married
ACKERSON George
__Children:
__ACKERSON Eliza (Anna) b 25 Mar 1861; d 25 Nov 1945 Anna "Eliza"
__m 23 Jun 1884
_ORSER (George).Odbur b 1860 d 1943 s/o Stephen ORSER & Lydia McGEE
___ Children:
______ORSER Frank.......b 25 Dec 1886 m SHAW Rachel; CLARK, Nettie *
______ORSER Ethel........b 16 Jun 1886?m ESTABROOKS, Chesley **
______ORSER Aurilla.......b 09 Apr 1890 m COOK Alton
______ORSER George........b 01 Jan 1892 m LOUPIN Ida (see Haywood)
______ORSER Laura.........b 02 Mar 1894 m SHAW Oscar
______ORSER Arthur........b 08 Apr 1895 m FISHER Ruby; SEELEY Maude
______ORSER Archie B......b 29 Apr 1900 died 1917 -buried in France
______ORSER Mildred.......b 02 Jul 1907 not married; was
Registered Nurse
*children: ORSER Eugene b 24 Mar 1913 m HATHAWAY Marie
- - - - - - - - Michael
- - - - - - - - Sheila
** children: ESTABROOKS Anna . .b .5 May 1914 m JEWETT John L
_____________ESTABROOKS Geroge. b 11 Feb 1916 m MUNROE Jean
_____________ESTABROOKS Francis b 27 Mar 1920 m EBBETT Louise
_____________ESTABROOKS Ruth ___b 25 Jun 1925 lives Victoria Corner
Union Corner Cemetery: James LLOYD 1880-1948; Ruby LLOYD 1890;
Leslie LLOYD (see TURNEY, Frank Bertram)
Per Annie Dyer to Etta 1983: LLOYD David married __Elizabeth.
Their children: all born before 1809 - James (possibly); Gideon;
Charles; Hannah. Elizabeth remarried about 1809 to John TOMPKINS.
The Dispatch 6 April 1904: Two Birds with One Pot
One day last week while one Hatheway of Caanan & his son, about 14
years of age, were walking to Bath, they met one named LLOYD on his way
home carrying a bean pot in a seamless bag.
Hatheway asked LLOYD to pay him for a sheep he had bought from him
& LLOYD said "I paid you once." Hatheway denied that he had & told
his debtor that unless he was paid at once there would be small pieces
of LLOYD scattered over the face of nature in that vicinity.
LLOYD brought himself into action handsomely & swung the bag round
his head a couple of times & landed the bean pot on Hatheway's jaw,
knocking the daylights out of him. When he saw his enemy lying on the
snow apparently dead, he was afraid & dropped the bag full of bean pot
& wept. Young Hatheway, seeing his father a dead corpse, grabbed the
bag & with a magnificent swing, landed it on LLOYD's ear & LLOYD went
down with a thud.
Just then a man drove along & gathered up the two men & the boy &
hauled them into Bath where Dr. Cummings sewed up the wounds & put
them on their feet again, both the men by no means as good as new but
they will be someday.
When LLOYD was able to talk coherently someone asked him who won
the fight. LLOYD said, "By gobs, I don't know but I do know that I
have lost my bean pot!."
_____
13 March 1991 letter from Mrs.Curtis (Anne B) McGann _ to Etta:
I am researching a Lloyd line in my family & wonder if you might have any
information on it. My gr gr grandmother was Mary Ann Lloyd who married
Thomas Dobson - date unknown - place unknown. According to her tombstone
in Tracy Mills Cemetery in Centreville she died 21 June 1890 age 66 yrs 5
mos 21 ds; according to the birth record of one of her children she was
born in Bath, N.B. Family history says she had a brother Samuel. I have
found a Samuel in some N.B. census & in the 1851 census a Sarah was with
him & may have been his sister & also Mary Ann's. I think Mary Ann may
have descended from James Lloyd & his father David Lloyd but
I'm not sure."
21 March 1991 _ Dear Anne,
I enclose print-out of my Sarah Lloyd & also print-out of other
Lloyds, hoping that someone will be able to sort them out. If you can
make any connections from this information I would appreciate
receiving this from you.
Ashland is a few miles out back of Hartland, Carleton County, N.B.
This is where my Sarah was born. _ Sincerely, _ Etta Haywood-Faulkner
18 April 1991 letter from Anne McGann:
LLOYD Mary A - b 1824 in Bath, N.B.; d 21 June 1890 - age 66 yrs 5
_______________mos 21 days *
_ married
DOBSON Thomas - born in England; d 28 Jan 1874
__Children: DOBSON William b in NB
___________________Hannah b in NB, then family moved to Blaine or
___________________________________ Mars Hill, Me. where
___________________Elias b in Blaine or Mars Hill, Me.
* Anne "never found a marriage record in Maine or N.B. There is no
record of death for them in Maine - or probate record. The
information on their deaths is from the gravestones in Tracy Mills
Cemetery in Centreville. On a birth certificate of one of Thomas &
Mary's children it lists Mary's birthplace of Bath, N.B. Because of
this & the fact that she & her husband were buried in Centreville I
thought perhaps some of her LLOYD family might be there also. The
only other LLOYD there is Jeremiah & his 1st wife.
Carleton Co. Marriages Roll #F88 1832-1862:
LLOYD Emma Welpole Psh Kent
m 15 Dec 1832
SHARPE William Psh Kent
_
Carleton Co. Probate records F1332 Vol 2: Petitions to probate court
for James LLOYD by his widow & son-in-law Wm. Sharp - March 1835
_____
1851 Census Kent Parish: Emma SHARPE - age 35 - widow (I can find no
death record for her husband William)
__________________________Mary LLOYD - age 30 - a lodger (Anne's
mother, Mary should have been married to Thomas Dobson by now. Her
son William was born in Kent in 1846 - Perhaps he is the 5 year old
William living with the Jones Family. Jones's wife would be 46 years
old at the time of his birth
_____
1861 Census - JONES family - I wonder who Mary b 1854 & Rhoda b 1859
are - wife Mary would be 54 & 59 years of age at their births.
(grandchildren?)
_____
Your "Aunt" Cecelia was probably the wife of Gideon who was in
Peel in 1881 census. Gideon would be a cousin to Sarah - his father
Charles being a brother of James Joseph.
Your "Uncle" Charles could be Gideon's brother - married to Phoebe
in the Peel census 1881.
If the letter was written after 1881 the Charles, brother of James
& Jeremiah, would be in his mid eighties or older.
_____
Other LLOYDs not identified in Carleton Co. 1851:
Brighton - LLOYD John D b c1816 - wife Sarah maiden name possibly
RAVEL - could be another son of James & Mary?
- LOYD Ann - age 16 - living with Benjamin ATWATER's as
servant
Kent - LOYD Eliza - age 8 living with Archibald WOODWARD
_____
Family sources said Mary LLOYD DOBSON had a brother Samuel & was
of Scottish origin. Also that she was part Mic Mac Indian. I have
found no proof of this.
Your Sarah could well have been the infirm Sarah - She would have
married rather late - age 34 - if she was not with brothers James or
Samuel in 1861 & was 31 & still infirm she might be living with a
sister or as a servant. It doesn't seem likely she would be too far
from her family.
Do you think your Martha NEVERS was the daughter of James & Martha
listed in 1851 census in Brighton - age 4 - making her 14 at time of
her marriage. It might explain why she left her 27 yr old husband.
(signed - Anne McGann)
"Descendants Nicholas & Sarah (Oliver) Rideout" by Stanley Corey:-
P12 RIDEOUT Samuel E b 1815 m Hannah Ann ... She died at Lower
Brighton on 15
May 1873 age 57. Census records 2 children
RIDEOUT, Cecelia born 1841 is said to have married Gideon LLOYD
P18 George Sidney LLOYD b 1842 (1851 census) & probably son of
Jeremiah LLOYD.
His wife Harried d 15 June 1911.
1843 Naomi became 2nd wife of Jeremiah LLOYD of Wicklow;
Children: Jeremiah LLOYD b 1846
_________ Charles_ LLOYD b 1860 & with Jeremiah in 1861
P55 Francis LLOYD (d before 1871 census) m Thomas Albert RIDEOUT
notes obtained from Mark Honey 2 Dec. 1993 from Vital Statistics
1892-1904:
1.Charles LLOYD 49 born Presque Isle lived Mars Hill
Tessie ? Redstone 49 1. Hazel Pearl 5 Sept 1902 4th
2. Marchal LLOYD born Canada L.F.F.
___Carry BIRD Aug 25, 1903 m FF
3.Charles LLOYD Prov of N.B.
__Nellie CRAIG 1st 4-11 1904
4.Clarence Glenwood 1-11-1904
__Marshall LLOYD + Carrie BROAD
5.Thomas LLOYD b Hodgton l Reed Han
Mannie ? Martin b. Union Corner Mary Minnie
__ 1. f Aug 22 1906 f
__ 2. m Feb 26 1908 f _________________ Oct. 4 1912 Hodgton
___3. m Thomas 11-11-1970 Hodgdon _____ Elwood Gordon
6.John C LLOYD b Hartland N.B.
__Maud BELL _____Cross Creek
4th Della B. Aug. 24, 1911 Caribou
7.John LLOYD 72 b Ireland d Caribou 2-12-1916 72 b 1844
8.Ralph McLLOYD
__Amy McPrice
______1. July 9, 1912 Caribou female
Thomas LLOYD d Hodgdon 1-3 1917 77 2 17 son of Thomas
He married 4436 Elizabeth. Text #4436:
Elizabeth, widow of David LLOYD & her 2nd husband, John Rex TOMPKINS,
lived on lot 62. John TOMPKINS purchased 160 acres of lots 62 & 63
from the eldest son. In a deed of 18 Oct. 1813 James LLOYD of Wakefield
sold parts of lots 62 & 63 to John TOMPKINS so probably James was the
eldest son. In a deed of 1832 a John HARTON & wife Hannah deeded
lot 62 to Elizabeth TOMPKINS of Brighton.
In 1851 Census in Brighton there is an Elizabeth TOMPKINS a widow
- infirm
- age 73 with son Clopper 30 & daughter Caroline 40 (don't know if
these are our John & Elizabeth)
Children:
2 i. James #1 (4437) Joseph[2].
Note: Etta may have James Joseph & James A. LLOYD mixed up.
Probate Car Co Reel F-1332 Vol 2) #11: James A. LLOYD (probably
same person as James Joseph), farmer - March 1835 to Mary LLOYD,
Psh Kent, Carleton Co., widow & Wm. SHARPE
ii. Jeremiah. Born, circa 1796. Died, 1870
(according to tombsfirst, Eliza 4457.
He married, second, Naomi Rideout.#4439.1851 Jeremiah LLOYD
& 2nd wife, Naomi (nee RIDEOUT) & several children were in Wicklow
Parish
3 iii. Charles #1 Jr.
iv. Hannah #1 T. Winslow. Born, 1802. She married
John Harton. #4440.[no text]
End of Lloyd First Generation
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