Johan Ernst EMICHEN / Maria Ursula ROSENBACHIN

Johan Ernst EMICHEN / Maria Ursula ROSENBACHIN


Husband : Johan Ernst EMICHEN

Male Born : 1654at : Konigsberg, Germany
Baptised : 13 NOV 1664at : Bleichenbach, Germany
Married : bef 1699at : Germany
Died : bef 1744at : Schoharie, New York
Father : Johannes EMMERICH
Mother :
Spouses : Maria Ursula ROSENBACHIN , Margaretha WINTER , Anna Christina UNKNOWN
Notes : [1144]

Wife : Maria Ursula ROSENBACHIN

Female Born : abt 1666at : Germany
Died : 1709at : London, England
Father :
Mother :
Spouses : Johan Ernst EMICHEN

CHILDREN

Name : Adam (Empey) EMPIE [1145]
Male Born : 1700at : Germany
Married : 05 FEB 1727at : Schenectady, Fulton, NY
Died : bef 1768at : Palatine, Montgomery, New York
Spouses : Catherine Barbara SCHMIDT

Name : Johannes (Empey) EMPIE [1143]
Male Born : 11 OCT 1702at : Worms, Germany
Baptised : 15 OCT 1702at : Lutheran Church, Worms, Germany
Married : abt 1722at : Palatine, Montgomery, New York
Died : aft 1777at : Palatine, Montgomery, New York
Spouses : Elizabeth SNELL

Name : Johan Ludovicus (Empey) EMPIE
Male Born : 19 DEC 1704at : Worms, Germany
Died : abt 1709at : England
Spouses :

Name : Johan Paulus (Empey) EMPIE
Male Born : 12 SEP 1707at : Worms, Germany
Baptised : 18 SEP 1707at : Lutheran Church, Worms, Germany
Died : abt 1709at : England
Spouses :

INDEX

[1144] SOURCES: "The Empey Family," E. Keith Fitzgerald, gen. Revised Jan 1984.
"The Palatine Families of NY," Henry Z. Jones, p. 201.
"London Churchbooks and the German Emigration of 1709," John P. Dern.
NAME AND ORIGINS: Dr. Fitzgerald writes to Hank Jones, 10 Nov 1984, that at the baptism in Worms of Johannes, Johan Ernst is described as "Beisass", a word not known today. He writes: "Even on the 'phone the professor didn't know it as it was really old German. "As you can see he has come through for me." (We assume from the next paragraph that the translation had to do with being a "a foreign neighbor of fugitive.) He continues, "Another thought - with the name Empey being Irish Huguenot (and therefore French) - and thus this German info saying the Emichs were 'Foreign Neighbors' and possibly 'fugitives from a foreign country' - it makes me wonder if somewhere back in time they were not all from the same roots." He (the professor) has also found that the names Emig/Emich/ Ehmig (and I guess all those other variants) are the same name - and that is a short for for Emmerich."
The London Churchbook records state that Johan Ernst was of K�nigsberg, more recently Worms, Germany.
BIRTH: Recorded: London Churchbooks, P 39: "Emichen, Ernst, age 55." This was his age on June of 1709 when he arrived in London, making him born abt 1654.
BAPTISM: Hank Jones writes Dr. Fitzgerald, 20 November 1984: "I found Johannes Emmerich bpt 13 Nov 1664 at Bleichenbach near Hanau: his father was Johannes E., Sr., d. 23 Nov 1688, aged 74 years (Selters Chbk.)"
Does this mean he was born closer to 1664 instead of about 1654 as formerly thought?; The 1654 date was derived from the age given in the London Churchbooks in 1709. Could his age then have been 45, a more likely age of a father of young sons, or was he baptized at age 10?;
MARRIAGES: First wife was Maria Ursula Rosenbachin, by whom he had 4 children, Adam, Johannes, Ludovicus and Paulus. Maria and the 2 younger children died soon after they reached London.
On 21 August 1709, in London Johan Ernst married Margaretha Winter, with whom he and his two remaining sons emigrated to New York in July of 1710. They were settled in West Camp on the west side of the Hudson River, where Adam was confirmed 30 April 1711. By 1713, they had moved to Schoharie where "Joh. Emerich and wife Margaretha" were sponsors at a baptism for Anna Eva, daughter of Johannes Hess and Catarina Lilofin. Sometime between 1713 and 1715, his second wife died.
By 1715 he had married Anna Christina __?;__ by whom he had 2 children, Elizabeth, born 1 Oct 1716, and Christina, born about 1718. NOTE: David Kendall Martin believes that "the age of Johan Ernst Emichen in 1709, compared with the ages of his children, indicates that likely he had at least one wife before his wife of that year, Maria Rosenbachin.
BIOGRAPHICAL: Origins per Henry Jones:
"Johan Ernst Emick, widower of Konigsberg more recently Worms, Germany, md. Margaretha d/o Hans Carl Winter of Bach in Wurtembergschen, 21 Aug 1709 (London Chbks. and the German Emigration of 1709, by John P. Dern, p. 25). "Emick's ancestral origins then were at 6520 Worms and possibly 6301 Konigsberg near Wetzler. "Ernst Emichen aged 55, his wife, sons aged 9, 6, 5, and 1 1/2, Lutheran, husbandman and vinedresser, were in the 1st arrivals in 1709 (London Lists)". (HJ)
Ernst Emichen made his first appearance on the Hunter Lists #162, 1 July 1710 with 2 pers. over 10 yrs of age and 2 pers. under 10 yrs; the numbers changed to 3 pers. over 10 yrs and 1 pers. under 10 on 4 Oct 1710, and the last entries for the family in 1712 noted 4 pers. over 10 yrs of age. An old manuscript dated 1711 recorded that 1 lb of butter was given for Joh: Ernst Emichen (NY Col Mss., Vol 55, p. 29e).
Johan Ernest Emigen was nat. 13 March 1715/1716 (Albany Nats.). Johan Ernst Eingen and Anna Christiana with 2 children were at Neu-Heessberg, ca. 1716/17 (Simmendinger Register), per HJ, p 201. Fitzgerald notes that Lutheran Church records 1673-1735 rec'd from Worms, Germany, state that 3 children were born to Johan Ernst Emichen and Maria Ursula Rosenbachin; Johannes, 1702, Joh. Ludovicus, 1704, Joh. Paulus, 1707. Another son, Adam, was born in 1700. Adam and Johannes became patentees at Stone Arabia, Montgomery Co., NY, in 1723, when the family moved to that area.
DEATH: David Kendal Martin writes to EKF: "Johan Ernst Emichen was a Stone Arabia Patentee in 1723, but was dead by 1744, as he was not on the Sommer's list of the Lutheran congregation." We don't know exactly where he died. If Johan Ernst Emichen and not his 21 year old son, Johannes, was the patentee, "J. Empie" (as listed on map) or "Johannes Emigen" (as written on list) who claimed Lots 6 and 46 in the Stone Arabia Patent, then it is likely he died in Stone Arabia. If his son made the claim, it is likely that his father moved from Schoharie to Stone Arabia to live with one of his sons, and died there.
NOTE: (BEG) There were 4 K�nigsbergs located all over Germany and also in what is now Poland. Hank Jones' researcher (at EKF's request) narrowed the field down to the one just north of Frankfort, Germany. His baptism record (recited) shows he was baptized at "Bleichenbach near Hanau". Hanau is just west of Frankfort so this probably the right K�nigsberg. The family moved to Worms later but weren't there long enough to leave any records except the children's baptisms.

- From "The Descendants of Johan Ernst Emichen : Volume II - The Loyalist Canadian Empey Family" - http://www.magma.ca/~ekipp/

[1145] SOURCES: "The Empey Family", genealogy chart, E. Keith Fitzgerald, rev. 1984.
"Palatine Families of NY", Henry Z. Jones, 1985, page 201.
Article: "Historic Stone Arabia", Enterprise and News
newspaper), St. Johnsville, NY, February 4, 1931, page 26.
"First Settlers of Schenectady", Pearson.
BIRTH: Born 1700 in Germany per age record given in London Churchbooks. We have no
church record of his birth as we do of the other 3 children.
BIOGRAPHICAL: Adam traveled to London with his parents at the age of 9, appearing on the
London Churchbooks, p 39, as "son age 9". Unlike his two youngest brothers, he survived the
trials of both the stay in London and the voyage to America, where the family arrived in New
York City in 1710. Here, Adam first appeared on the Hunter Lists of 1 July 1710 as one of "2
pers under 10 years." By Oct of 1710, he must have had a birthday, since the list of 4 Oct 1710
notes "3 persons over 10, and 1 under 10."
After staying about 3 months in New York on Nutten Island (now Governor's Island), in Oct
of 1710 the family was moved with the rest of the Palatines, who had arrived about the same
time, up the Hudson River to Livingston Manor, a large tract of land, upon which were
established many camps, where the Palatine families were expected to labor to produce tar and
pitch for the English Navy.
Adam's family was sent to West Camp, where it remained until the Tar Camps were closed
and the family left for Schoharie in 1712/1713. When circumstances forced the family from
Schoharie, it moved to the Mohawk Valley, where the two sons, now age 23 and 21 were given
land in the new Stone Arabia Patent, granted in 1723. Adam received lots 11 and 14.
Henry Jones says: "Johan Adam, conf. 30 Apr 1711, at the new German colony (West Camp
Luth. Chbk.) Jerg Adam Oemich sp. Joh: Martin Seibert in 1716 (West Camp Chbk.)
Adam Empie was a patentee at Stone Arabia in 1723 (Stone Arabia Patent). He md.
Catharina Barbara Schmidt, d/o Adam Smit, 5 Feb 1727." Pearson's "First Settlers of
Schenectady" gives children - Maria, Anna, Johannes, Adam, Heinrich.
MARRIAGE: Dutch Reformed Church, Schenectady, Schenectady Co., NY USA. "Adam
Aemke, jm and Catrina Barber Smit, jd". No witnesses listed. Surname given as "Aemtgen" in
baptismal record of his first child, Maria.
From "Genealogy of the First Settlers of Schenectady", pg 65 reads:
EMPIE, Adam, m. first Catrina Barber, dau. of Adam Smit(?;), Feb 5, 1727.

- From "The Descendants of Johan Ernst Emichen : Volume II - The Loyalist Canadian Empey Family" - http://www.magma.ca/~ekipp/

[1143] SOURCES: "The Empey Family" researched by E.K. Fitzgerald, M.D., Rev. 1964.
"Empey Family", compiled by Edith Van Heusen Becker from various church and civil records.
"American Ancestry", Vol 2:36.
"Ancestors of Mary Anne Fox", compiled by George D. Finkbinder, Dewitt, NY.
"The Eighteenth Century Snell Family of the Mohawk Valley", by David K. Martin.
The Palatine Families of NY," Henry Z. Jones, 1985, p 201-202.
Lutheran Church Records - 1673-1735, Worms, Germany. Henry Z. Jones.
BIRTH: "Probably born in K�nigsberg near Wetzlar, Germany, between March and June of 1702, based on the
Hunter's ration list wherein child changes from under ten to over ten." (DKM letter to EKF 13 Mar 1982).
BAPTISM: Johannes was born 11 Oct 1702 at Worms, Germany. He was baptized on 15 Oct 1702, Lutheran
Church at Worms per Worms Lutheran Church Records, 1673-1735 (EKF).
Record reads: #162, 1702 Oct 11, Oct 15: Johannes.
Parents: "Johann Ernst Emichen, beisa� and day laborer
Maria Ursula, born Rosenbachin.
Godf: "Johannes Hainlein, citizen and carpenter."
CONFIRMATION: Johannes was confirmed in 1720 at Tschoghari in the so called Fuchsen-dorp (N.Y. City Luth.
Chbk.)
BIOGRAPHICAL: Johannes emigrated with his family to London in June of 1709, where he appears on the May 6,
1709, London Lists with his father "Ernst Emichen" as "a son, age 6." Unlike his two younger brothers, Paulus and
Ludovicus, and his mother, Maria, Johannes survived the terrible living conditions of both the 7 month stay in
London and the 6 months on shipboard (3 months in harbor just waiting to sail) arriving in New York in June of
1710 and first appearing on the Hunter Lists of 1 Jul 1710, listed with his family as one of "2 persons under age 10."
In October of 1710, the family was sent with the other Palatines of their group up the Hudson to Livingston
Manor, a tract of land where the labor of the emigrants was going to be used to produce tar and pitch for the English
fleet. The family of Johan Ernst Emichen was assigned to West Camp, where they remainded under stressful
conditions until the tar project failed and they were free to go elsewhere.
According to Henry Z. Jones, by 13 March 1715/1716, Johannes had been naturalized (Albany Nats.).
From DKM: "Johannes Empie was one of the original Patentees at Stone Arabia in 1723, originally receiving
lots #6 and #46.
When additional land was laid out he was 19th on the list and was allotted Lots 3, 12, 4, 16, 18 and 2, First
Division, according to Helen Abel Empie Failing. She spoke of this on my visit with her 29 May 1998.
As told to HWW: Helen didn't know when he disposed of these and got Lots 86 and 88 of the Second Allotment.
Helen and her husband still own the property, lots 86 and 88, Second Allotment. Part of the original house is
incorporated into the present 2 story, frame dwelling. No parts of the old barns remain. We sat in the house kitchen
looking out the picture window, looking north and viewing the fertile, rolling fields. Helen and her husband are
retired and do not work the land, but it is rented to an adjacent farmer, keeping the fields into agricultural
production, usually field corn.
Church records at Stone Arabia show that Johannes Empey and Elizabeth Snell Empey were still living there
(Rev. Sommers Lutheran Cong. List) by 1744 when their daughter, Anna Maria, was baptized (Jan 8, 1744) and he
was chosen elder and installed (Aug. 12, 1744).
His family appeared on Pastor Sommer's list of his congregation at Stone Arabia and Cani-Schohare in 1744, and
Johannes ("Hannis his HE mark Empie") was among those signing the release for the division of the church lot (Lot
20 of the First Division) at Stone Arabia between the Lutheran and Reformed congregations, again confirming this
division 29 Dec 1770 with others, (this time signed "Johannes Emge") representing the Stone Arabia Trinity
Lutheran Church. (DKM) By this time Johannes had acquired Lots 86 and 88 of the Stone Arabia Patent, Second
Division.
The 1763 list of Freeholders of the City and County of Albany made to provide jurymen for the Provincial courts,
includes at Stonerabie: Johannes Empie and Philip Empie. Only those with a certain value of property were placed
on this list (Nat'l Genealogical Soc. Quart., Dec 1860, 48:171.
The last record of Johannes is a land transfer of Stone Arabia lot 86 of 198 acres in the Stone Arabia Patent,
Second Division, from him to his son Jacob Empie date June 7, 1771. (Note that this same son, Jacob was killed at
Oriskany, August 6, 1777.)
Since all of his children were born after 1723, they were born in Stone Arabia.
DEATH: Stone Arabia, Palatine, Montgomery Co., NY.

- From "The Descendants of Johan Ernst Emichen : Volume II - The Loyalist Canadian Empey Family" - http://www.magma.ca/~ekipp/

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