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Once Upon A Lifetime In Baker County, Florida
The Moonshine Legacy
Part Two

By La Viece Moore-Fraser Smallwood
Copyright © 1995

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Dear Readers,

This volume in the Once Upon a Lifetime in Baker County series is different. It's subject is very sensitive, one that evokes strong emotions. For many, these stories have aroused pain, regret, remorse, and even shame, but still, for most, if they had it all to do over again, they would.

I think perhaps, to understand why this subject spurs such sensitive emotions, you would need to understand the history, the people, the times. This is the logic as to why this book has been written. It is for this reason, unlike other volumes in this series, that anyone using any portion or portions of this book for commercial reasons or for any other purpose, at any time, must have written permission from me, my heirs, or those individual persons who have signed their names to these stories, or their heirs.

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George Washington 'Dub' Sands, Jr.
Moniac/Macclenny

If you think that designing a brand new custom designed automobile right off the assembly line happens only in renowned places like Detroit, Michigan, think again. If you believe the vehicle has to be especially designed by an ace designer and draftsman to create the perfect model, think again. Nor does it take the expert skills of a mathematician, blueprint reading and mechanical experts, a machinist, chemist, engineer, physicist, laboratory technician, pattern maker, or tool and die maker with years in apprenticeship.

George W. 'Dub' Sands can do all of that singlehandedly, and right here in Baker County. The genius automaker has astonished mechanical colleagues for decades and staggered the imaginations of the craftiest masters. His custom-designed cars were for moonshiners. Lawmen dreaded to see his creations zoom down the road at lightning speeds and quickly dismissed any idea of attempting a road block or confrontation when they saw "it" coming. They marveled in awe as they watched "it" pass unscathed into the night.

"It" might be a Dodge or Plymouth frame, but what was beneath the hood was anybody's guess except for the mastermind who put it together.

Dub Sands was born in the crook of the Georgia Bend in 1927 to Baker County pioneers George Washington and Nellie Thrift Sands. His family's 496-acre spread bordered the Florida-Georgia boundary line separated by the "big" St. Mary's River. They were a hard-working, self-sufficient couple who cultivated their land and worked hard to support their 11 children with what it produced. In the wintertime, George Sands always managed to grow a cane patch that would yield enough sugar to sweeten the moonshine pot that boiled down at the river's edge. Its proceeds were for "the hard times."

"I helped in the home brewing since I was large enough to tote a jar of syrup to the still," he said. "I been running a liquor still since I was at least six years old. Liquor was a way of survival when I was growing up, and no one could make it taste better than my daddy.

"I remember many mornings looking out across our fields almost every direction and hearing my daddy say, 'Well fellows, I see that old man so and so is a stillin' today.' Why, all you had to do was step out in the yard and it was easy to tell who was cooking it that that day because in those days they used fat-lightered wood and the smoke just billowed skyward exposing the locations."

Sands said his favorite brewed moonshine was an art performed by his dad. "I can remember the old wooden trough, hand-hewed from a cypress log by my uncle Dan Thrift. In fact," he said, "it is still at the old home place that is now owned by my brother Clyde. I can remember going to the corn crib and shucking the corn and then putting it in the old-timey corn shucker. We put the kernels in the trough near the water pump because we didn't have electricity back then. We pumped enough water to cover the corn about two inches and after a few weeks it began to sprout. It would drink a lot of water and we'd keep it covered. When it would get to boiling we would take it to the still and put it in 55-gallon barrels, add more water and wait for it to start fermenting. You could hear it frying inside and if it was real cold weather, we'd take dirt and put it against the barrels to hold the heat so it would be real warm inside At the right time, we'd pour our sugar in and I can just see my uncle now, running his finger through it and testing to see if it was right. If it was, he'd say, 'Okay, boys, we got to take it up or it will vinegar on us." Sands said when they got the liquor like they wanted it, his daddy would 'season' a portion. "That was the art," he said. "We'd go out in the woods and cut these Blackjack oaks down, peel all the bark off, and chisel it about as thin as you could and you'd have baskets full of it. Well, my mother would put that in an old wooden stove and parch that and it would turn brown. She knew just how long to get all that acid out of it. Then they would take barrels and put so many gallons of liquor in there and so much of the parched wood and store it in an accessible place so you could occasionally shake it. That would stay there for about six months or longer, aging, and every so often daddy would taste it to see how it was coming along. When daddy thought it was ready, they would strain it and it would be a red color from the chips. But daddy wouldn't be through with it yet. He liked to fix it so the women folks would like it. He would put it back in a clean barrel, then he'd buy boxes of dried peaches and he'd put so many of them in the brew and keep it another six months or a year. That was as mild and as pure as you could get. You could never buy it that pure and if I was now a drinking man I'd get me a little pot and I'd make me some and I'd drink all I could hold and then call my friends and see if they wanted some.

"Daddy kept it buried everywhere. One time a mule fell into our well and we found several barrels in there we'd forgotten we had. I've seen the time daddy had 300 five-gallon cans of whiskey and couldn't sell it; sometimes there was a demand for it and sometimes there wasn't.

"Daddy bought the B&W Bar in Macclenny in 1936 and got rid of the bootlegging, but the boys messed with it a little bit until one or two of them got caught and spent some time in prison. Anyway, moonshining is nothing new to me, it was there as long as I can remember and we used to do it with a mule and wagon."

Sands said he dropped out of school at the age of 16 while in the seventh grade.

"I stayed home and plowed a mule for a long time, then I took my first job in 1944 with Mr. J.J. Pribble. I made twenty-five dollars a week in his Glen St. Mary garage working as a mechanic," he said. I had worked on tractors around the farm, but other than that I didn't have experience. He was a good man and tried to adopt me. When I got drafted, he didn't want me to go into the service, but I left for the Army along with my first cousin, Dof Lyons and friend, Lawrence Green."

Sands only served 13 months, but obtained a vast amount of knowledge when he was sent to automotive mechanic school for eight weeks. "That was really interesting and I really learned some valuable things there."

He married Harley Burnsed's daughter, Edna, after his discharge and, with a friend, Everette Moran, bought Mr. Pribble's garage. Eventually he left there and went to Jacksonville to work for Massey Dodge Dealership, mainly selling trucks. When Massey opened another dealership Sands went there as a mechanic.

Meanwhile, his parents moved to north Macclenny in 1951, purchasing the 210- acre old Nath Pellum Place. Sands' oldest brother, Clyde, purchased his parent's 496 acres.

Sands moved to Jacksonville after he purchased a service station at Park and Roselle Streets. "It was a good business, but I was always thinking about Baker County," he said. "I wanted to move back home."

Before he did, he learned about another service station at San Juan and Roosevelt. His decision to purchase that one changed the course of his life. "It was there I got a lot of experience messing around with race cars," he said.

Sands met people like Frank Ironmonger, a race car winner. I watched him very closely and what he was doing. His chief engine man was Mac Richardson. He built race cars and ran a machine shop in St. Augustine. His driver was Bill Snowden, and Frank Ironmonger's driver was Ace McCartlin. They're all dead now, but Snowden used to race with top race car drivers in the southeast, like Curtis Turner. I learned a lot from them, everything they done. They built flat-head Fords. I sponsored Frank's car and from that time on, I really got interested in fast cars. I should have been a race car driver," he said.

Then something happened that brought him back to Baker county and once more changed his life forever. "I leased a new Amoco station on the corner of Highway 90 and SR 228. I was the first one in it, but it was too slow and no room to mechanic. Then the old Dunk Dinkins Ford building was empty so we rented that and I set up shop there," he said.

The couple first lived in a small home they rented from Ms. Sallie O'Hara located in back of the now-demolished Morris House Restaurant.

Eventually Sands leased a building from Rudolph Powers on the northwest side of the railroad tracks on SR121.

"It was when we built our garage on Highway 228 that I really got into building cars," he said. "We moved into a house next to the business, so everything was right there," he said.

"I had connections to get engines. I favored the Chrysler 300. There is no limit to what you can do with that," he said." There wasn't anyone around that could tune one of them suckers up. I bought all those type engines I could find anywhere, four and five at one time, mostly out of wrecked cars and I'd rework them, and put them in another kind of car. I put a Chrysler engine in an international pick-up for Junior Crockett, and it would haul 60 cans of liquor all day and all night. He had saddle tanks on it so he hardly ever had to stop at a gas Station. It also had a Chrysler transmission and a Chrysler rear end."

It didn't take long for word to spread and the moonshiners bootlegging whiskey came around in droves.

Sands said he usually used Chrysler products like the Plymouth and Dodge. "I had a black'49 Dodge with a Chrysler-300 engine in it. It was just a little short, four- door thing, but it was a well-balanced car, the best I'd ever built. It cornered and handled better than any car and that was the name of the game. All that speed wasn't any good unless you could make the car handle well. I had a good man named Ealie Johnson in Jacksonville that did all the front-end setting. He was from Baker County and worked for Massey Dodge. With a lot of the cars, I'd take the body off, inspect the frame, and then reinforce it and do whatever it took to make sure there wasn't any weak places in it. Then I started from there, putting it back together. The big problem, and that's why they didn't use them in race cars, was that the Chrysler-300 was so heavy that one of the cylinder heads on that thing weighed 90 pounds, and that's 180 pounds to start with. Then you got the rest of the block, so that thing would weigh 200 pounds more than the average V8 engine. But it was a work horse, it would do the job," he said, adding, "There was no limit to what you could do with it; you could make it go faster than anyone would want to ride and faster than the speedometer would register. I built one and took a feller riding with me one night and the law got after us between Hawkinsville and Macon and you couldn't tell by the speedometer how fast you were going. I said, 'Well, I just built this little old car, wonder how it's going to run,' and when the race was over that feller said, 'Well, I've never rode in a jet until now.' I can tell you the truth, anything going that fast just takes your breath."

Sands said the smaller cars such as the Plymouth and Dodge were not equipped with power brakes. "So we'd take the engine and the power brake system off the Chrysler and bolt the power system under the bottom on the frame; then you could hook up to it. Those shine cars were not made to stop until you got to where you were going because you were usually running a car wide open.

"You had to stabilize the car by installing an air bag. It's a pad you screwed up in the coil and after you put this bag in there it's got another one that fits on the bottom. It's a rubber plate with a hole in it for your valve stem to come out in the bottom and you air it up and that gives it a lot of strength. It took a lot to hold up that engine. Now if you could get the car where it would corner right, get the front end and all that set with all this equipment on it, you'd have quite a bit of money in it. But it had to be set up right. You see, what the average mechanic didn't understand, I'd been doing it with the race cars. It was the gear ratio that was important to create in the rear axle. I can remember that if you broke it down it was a 354 ratio which means there was nine teeth on the pinion gear and 36 on the ring gear. I found out that I could get the ring gear and pinion from a man named Getts who manufactured the ring gears. For years he sent me catalogs and all kinds of information. He'd help me if he knew what kind of transmission I was going to use and the size of tires. He could help me pretty good on the gear ratio and that was very important because you've got a lot of pulling power, yet when you get on the highway, you are going to want to get some mileage too. So you have to strike a happy medium."

Sands said he attended a carburetor school of instruction. "That Chrysler engine had two four-barrel carburetors on it and you had to synchronize them so you had to make all the linkage to hook 'em up. I threw away anything automatic on them, like the chokes. You just needed one linkage and that went from one carburetor to another. The front one had to do the same thing as the back one, so I had to make all the linkage to that. When you got them synchronized, that car would talk to you."

Sands said he has forgotten how much money he charged to build the specialized vehicles. "It wasn't enough, whatever it was," he said. "If I could get all the money I've got in my experience messing with 'em, I'd be a millionaire. A lot of it I'd do for nothing. If I made any money, I spent it all on engines," he said.

"My big problem was that I could not keep exhaust valves. If you could see in that engine, you'd see that the exhaust valve is not very big and the head of it would get cherry red. I had to put springs on the vehicle so it would pop the head of that valve off and it'd go right to the engine and tear up the butt hole and piston or whatever. A lot of 'em would keep running, and a lot of 'em would tear up, but that cost me a ton of money. You'd have to go through the whole engine, then. That went on and I had some tough luck there with hot spots. It would blow a hole in that piston and it would look like you'd shot a hole in the top of the piston with a load of buckshot. I couldn't figure out why. I couldn't whip it and it was bothering me not to know what was causing it to swallow them valves. Man, it would tear up the whole works and that was $1,500-$2,000.

"I had a friend by the name of Homer Teston. He came to Jacksonville from Johnson City, Tennessee, and he worked for Consolidated Automotive. I went down there one day to see him and told him about my problem of not being able to keep an exhaust valve in a Chrysler-300. I told him it just swallows them things up over night. Well, there was this old man standing there, named Dutch. He had on a pair of what I called convict coveralls and was greasy from the top of his head all the way down. He had a little ole cigar in the corner of his mouth and he looked like he was going to swallow it any minute. He said, 'Mister, if you want to listen to me, I can tell you how to fix that,' and he said, 'When you leave here, you go to the Universal Automotive Parts store and see Mr. Moody. Tell him to give you what you need to convert your exhaust valves to the new truck valves which has a sodium-cooled valve. It has a fluid in the stem and is a much bigger stem and that means you've got to change the guides and the valve seats, and all that.'

"Now, back then, them valves were $16 apiece and it takes eight of them for an eight-cylinder engine. I bought me two sets and I had me a little box that I put in the freezer and made it off limits to everybody. Now, what you do to change all of that is to press them guides out. You put all that stuff in the freezer and you have to install them while they are frozen, very quickly, one at the time, and when it comes to room temperature, you can't get it out unless you beat it out. Putting them in the freezer shrinks them. When you drop it in that head and it expands, it's there to stay. You'd have to tear it out, and the guides were the same way. Although that solved my problem I still ain't satisfied because I need a little more speed."

Sands said that problem was solved when Junior Crockett took him to see a man who made Chrysler-300 engines. "I bought one from him for $225, came home and completely tore it apart. It had an oil pan on it and the heads, and had an intake for one four-barrel. That man didn't know what I knew. He was blowing engines, and what he was doing was loosening the valves. The main thing I needed to know from his work was what type of pistons he used in it. He was using a three and 15/16 bore. That's a good-size piston and looks about the size of a coffee can. It had a pretty dome on top of it and the imprinted name was what I needed. I found out the pistons were made in California and so I had someone call there and get me a set of 'em. They cost about $20 apiece.

"Now after that, I mean to tell you it worked; it did the job then, and I never had no problem with the bottom side of it. I had the crankshaft side mastered pretty good, but Lord, that was one engine. I don't know how many of them I built. I put the one I had bought and tore apart all back together but I didn't like his cam shaft, the part that works the valves. From then on, I used the Chrysler-300 to build the whole car from one end to the other and I always kept enough supplies in that freezer to do what I needed to do. It took two cylinder heads to do an engine and from then on I never, had anymore trouble with an engine blowing.

"Junior Crockett bought the first fuel-injection Chevrolet around here and they thought that was going to suck them Chryslers up, but mine continued to beat them. We had tire problems, like slinging the rubber off. Those cars had to be made with overload springs. See, you had a spring that you laid on to the housing and you pulled two pins and you could take the spring off and put it on and when you were not loaded, you just laid the springs in the back and all you had to do was have a bumper jack to raise it up a little bit and flip them springs. Then you were ready to load and when you got unloaded, you took the springs off and the car would sit back level again.

"We used Goodyear's Blue Streak tire when we could get them. I finally mastered not having the rubber sling off. I had a friend I met at the race track and he introduced me to a feller that would put two coats of some kind of pink rubber on them tires, mold it and then put a cap on it. When the tire wore out we recapped with that pink rubber. Some of them tires we used had been recapped as many as 12 times. I'd rather ride on his tires with that pink rubber than a brand new tire. If the cap did come the pink rubber would save you."

Sands said in 1953 he once again became involved in moonshine. I liked driving the cars. A good car is just like a good saddle horse, it ain't no good if you don't have a good rider. If you don't have a good driver to take care of equipment, it ain't no good. I hauled moonshine, sometimes two loads a night, five or six times a week, or I had good drivers to take my loads for me."

Two of the best were Glen Johnson and Jimmy Lyons, he said. On one occasion, he remembers proving his point to Glen Johnson when he proved that a car loaded with shine could outrun an empty car.

"I had already arrived at the destination, unloaded and was waiting on Glen when he came driving up with the empty vehicle," he said.

"And you had to know the tricks of the trade, too. That was very important. I remember a state trooper named L.B. Boyette. He should have been a beverage agent, because he loved it so. He was always out there trying to catch us. The one thing he never learned though was to tell which of the cars was loaded. Sometimes, we would send the empty car up ahead of the shine car, and L.B. would see it coming and take off after it while the shine car went on through. He never figured out that a loaded car always sounded just like a diesel coming. We were always trying to outsmart them, and they were us," he said.

Sands remembers the only time he was ever cornered by the law. "Jimmy Lyons was driving the loaded car and I was following in a midnight-blue Chrysler. We were driving up toward Tallahassee one night. Some man had been killed at a little country store in Salem, Florida, and he had been driving a Chrysler, but the newscast said it was a white one. Well, I was running like hell, and I wasn't familiar with the roads up there, when, before I knew it, there were red lights all over. I had a boy with me and I stopped long enough to let him out and told him to stop the loaded car coming behind us and for them to get out of there. I went on and slid sideways through the road block with my lights out. I got my car behind this house, but they were close enough behind me that they saw me before the dirt had settled. Before I knew it there was this one old man who looked like he was as tall as my fireplace. He had on a pair of bib overalls and a long-barreled pistol. He stuck that long thing in there and said, 'Don't you run, you S.O.B. We got you now!' And they jerked me out of there and handcuffed me. I had $500 in five dollar bills that was bulging from my pockets and they got that. They pulled the seats all out of my car and looked in the trunk, thinking they'd find a gun that was suppose to have killed that man. Then they were going to take me on to jail, when a state trooper I knew named Woodle came up there. He told them, 'There ain't no way this boy shot anybody. If he is doing anything he's over here with Junior Crockett and his bunch hauling moonshine liquor.' Boy, they scattered like a covey of quails and they went to looking for Junior. Meanwhile, the highway patrol had jumped my loaded car going back to Perry from Madison. Jimmy out-run them and got away and went on up to Greenville. He found a place to hide the liquor and came on back home. I was put under a $150 bond, so I took off and stopped to call home. They told me Jimmy was just driving up. I went on back and I had one hell of a time getting those boys to go back for that liquor, but finally Jimmy Lyons went back over there with me. You could see it by the side of the road. If anybody had come along and looked that way, they could have seen it. We picked it up and made our delivery and came on back home."

And there was the time he was traveling back to Baker County after delivering a load of moonshine with Jimmy Lyons as driver. They were entering Fargo, Georgia, at a high rate of speed, just before daylight one morning.

"I remember Jimmy saying, 'Okay, George, here we go,' and I heard a bamm, bamm bamm. We landed against a telephone pole upside down."

The twosome had hit a farmer driving a truck loaded with his mule. "They tell me they didn't find that mule for three days," he smiled. " The impact demolished that little Plymouth and that mule took off. We had it loaded down with sugar."

Even though it was in the days before seat belts, Sands had installed them in his cars for safety in case of such accidents. The accident left him with cuts and bruises, and Jimmy hospitalized. But, he said, it could have been much worse without the seat belts.

Today, Sands is retired, except maybe for a bit of farming. He and Edna live on an expansive stretch of land just before crossing the Georgia State line on SR 121. Instead of assembling engines for fast-moving cars, he helped to construct the couple's lovely, comfortable home. The spacious family room with its ever-glowing furnace fireplace, is filled with his sporting trophies. Large black bears peer from a corner of the room, along with deer and moose heads. Life is quieter.

"I used to drink pretty bad and the family got to worrying about me, so I went into the hospital about ten years ago to be checked over. A liver expert came in to see me and he said, 'Mr. Sands, how long have you been drinking alcoholic beverages?' I looked at him and I said, 'Well, Doc, I'll tell you the truth, because that's the only thing I know to tell in this life, because I don't know what's going to happen in the next one, if there is a next one. But I can faintly remember my mother bouncing me on her knee and she got a saucer and poured out this white moonshine. Then she took a match and lit it and it made a pretty blue flame. When that flame went out, she took a teaspoon and give it to me, and then a bunch more of it. For what reason, I don't know, but you asked me the question and I'm telling you I can faintly remember that.' And you know, he didn't have any more questions and he left. He sent me a bill for $100 and never told me nothing and I told him the truth. That's been a decade ago. I used to drink quite a bit, and smoked cigars, but now I've quit it all except I chew a little bit. Of course, a man has to have at least one bad habit because I don't know anyone that would like to live with someone that's perfect, do you?"

Well, that's debatable. But in any case, some people come pretty close to it. In Dub Sands case, he is a man before his time.

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The Skeeter Gainey story
St. George, Georgia, and Macclenny, Florida

Marion Ernest Gainey was one of 14 children born to William Clayton and Matilda Howard Gainey in the Georgia Bend on March 30, 1941. The old, rustic, three- room clapboard home with its circular drive is where he grew up with his 12 living brothers and sisters. They were Eugene, Vivian, William (Bill) Clayton, Jr., Joe (who tragically died at the age of 17), Merel, Barbara, Ray, Tommy, Mitchell, Johnny and two younger siblings died in infancy.

By the time he was five, he was riding the family mule through the corn field and on down to the river that flowed behind the family farm. Two empty five-gallon jugs, bound up in croaker sacks, were tied in front of the saddle and two of the same were tied behind the saddle. When he returned home, those jugs would be full of crystal- clear moonshine manufactured by his father at the antiquated family liquor still. He remembers those days as if they were yesterday.

"The mule would automatically take it to the still, but we younguns' liked to ride, so we'd go down and drop off the four empty jugs and return with four jugs filled," he said. "It was a great experience for us to get old enough to go to the still. I felt all grown up when I saw it because it was a way of life. It meant survival, if the tobacco crop didn't come through, because what little we made from it provided clothing and other essentials our family needed."

Muscular and handsome, shy, yet talkative, the man who is now called Skeeter is particular who he talks to about his experiences in the moonshine industry. He has turned down a movie offer and the opportunity to be in a book written by a "revenuer."

"They might not understand how it was, back then, he says, "and if it's going to be told, then it needs to be told right."

Like most folks in the area, the Gainey family lived on a farm and worked from sun-up to sun-down, grubbing a living from the soil that provided them with corn and potatoes to eat and tobacco to sell for family necessities, like shoes and clothes. Their water was drawn from a bucket well, and the smokehouse was usually filled with smoked hams and sausages, the annual staple meat preserved after butchering hogs in the fall. It was hard work, and no conveniences. There was no electricity or indoor plumbing. The family used a one-seat outhouse, or, he said, "We went behind the barn if we didn't have time to get to the outhouse, which was located a good piece from the house."

"We used corn cobs or the Sears catalog back then because there was no such thing as toilet paper," he said. "And it was amazing that certain pages never got torn out of the catalog. Guess which pages that was?" he asked with a grin. "It was the lingerie section. That was our pornography in those days!"

The family owned a battery powered radio. "Us kids would listen to Cisco and Poncho, the Lone Ranger, and, on Saturday nights, our greatest treat was to listen to the Grand Ole Opry. We had an old cypress pole that had a copper wire running up it to try and get better reception, but it would fade in and out about the time everything got to picking and grinning real good. You'd just hold your breath until the music came back.

"My grandparents lived on adjoining land. Their names were Lewis and Pinkie Jo Bennett Gainey. They, like our parents, really worked hard to make a living. In those days, none of us had conveniences. Even with her big family, Mama still helped in the fields. She canned and preserved our food under the most primitive conditions. The kitchen was not attached to the house, and the three rooms in our house all had beds in them. We grew tobacco, always hoping for good weather to make a crop. If the tobacco crop made, then we would gather it and hang it on sticks in the barn to dry. Then, we would take it to market to sell, hoping to get paid enough to pay off our bills for the plants and fertilizer we had previously charged down at the local store.

"We bought sugar in 100-pound bags because we needed that for making our moonshine. I remember some of the sugar bags had an imprint, 'Made in Cuba'. Mama made all our shirts out of the material after she bleached the bags to get the color and imprint out. She used an old pedal sewing machine.

"Daddy made the shine to help us make a little extra money for clothes. We didn't have a car while I was home. My parents used a mule and wagon until the 1950's, so people would usually come up to the house to buy what moonshine we made. Clarence Johns of Macclenny He peddled whiskey for years and sold it in pints and I have a copper funnel out there in the old shed somewhere that came from Clarence's house that some of my daddy's whiskey was poured through. If I remember right, Clarence came after his moonshine in a 1941 Ford Coupe.

"Do you know why bootlegging was originally called bootlegging?" he asked with a grin. "The name originated during prohibition days when people would stash a pint in their boots, or tie it onto their leg. Back then making moonshine wasn't illegal, just illegal if you did 't pay taxes to the government. The moonshine name came about because people making it used fat-lightered wood and it caused such a smoke that they would have to make it at night or be spotted by the revenuers.

"That was in the early days," he said. "By the time I came along, they had graduated from lightered knots to kerosene burners -- galvanized tanks that would hold about 15 gallons of kerosene. You would have to take a tire pump and pressurize it. It was real hard work.

"When we got big enough to help with the whiskey, we thought we were real grown up," he remembered. "And we had more responsibility. I knew it was against the law, but I didn't look at it as a shameful thing, like dealing with crack, marijuana or cocaine or stuff like it is today. It was just a way to have enough money for our family to exist. We really had it hard even with the extra we made from the moonshine.

"I remember walking barefoot the three miles to school before the bus started picking us up, in weather so cold, icicles would pop up out of the hard ground. We had radiators in the school rooms out at St. George and my feet would be so cold that when I first put my foot to 'em I wouldn't even feel it, my feet were so numb. Mama managed to keep us in overalls, and some kind of little jacket, but we'd be so cold. Mama wanted us to go to school. She only had a fourth grade education, but she could write good. She wrote beautiful poems, even some about bootlegging and the revenuers."

By the age of 13, he had been arrested for making illegal moonshine. The year was 1954. "I was with my father in this little old still behind the farm there. We'd had it for years, you know, so somebody turned us in, most likely. It was the Federal guys Mueller and Maine, I remember. They called one of 'em 'Yank' because he used to play baseball with the New York Yankees. They caught us, just me and dad. We both got probation. They tore our still up. They beat the oak barrels in and we were not able to patch 'em back, so we had to start over.

"I think dad felt the worst about me getting caught, like you would your kids. We found another spot further down the creek, and then I got caught again when I was 15 at the new still. Dad, too. This time, he got three years in Tallahassee and I got two years in Natural Bridge, Virginia, Federal prison.

"I was treated good in Federal prison. Dad and I wrote one another while we were in prison and he'd write who all was there that we might know, like a lot of people from Baker and Charlton counties. While I was in prison, I attended school, but I dropped out when I got out and finished years later. I did eighty percent of my sentence. When I was released, they gave me a suit of clothes and a little money, just enough to feed me on the way home. They gave me one of those Air Force Bomber jackets, and I wish I had kept that, I'd love to own it today. I didn't write anyone that I was coming home. I rode the bus to Folkston, Georgia, and arrived there at night. I walked over to the jail and knocked on the door. The sheriff was an old gentleman by the name of Jim Sikes. He came to the door and said, 'Can I help you, son?', and I told him I needed a ride to St. George. He said, 'Give me time to get dressed.' His wife went with us and we talked all the way. He was a good old gentleman. Back then, nobody locked the doors, so I just walked on in the house. Mama had moved a little closer to St. George when me and daddy went to prison. Everybody got up and mama started cooking breakfast.

"I never got along with mama too much; I think we were too much alike. I was the only one who had her hair color and all the rest of the family looked like dad. She had dark hair, and dad had blond with blue eyes. Mama gave me some severe punishment a few times with gallberry switches. I've still got scars on my back and legs to this day. I was a rebellious-type person from an early age and still that way today. Daddy never whipped me, he used his voice, and that is the same way I've raised my kids. I've never whipped them; I use my voice, and they've all turned out real good.

"Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I got more whippings than any of them. I don't know if I led everybody into getting into trouble or what, but I didn't stay home after I got 13, even though I was on probation after I got out of prison. I might hitch-hike to Zephyr Hills and be gone for three or four months and nobody would know where I was at. I'm still that way, just like now. When I start out the door, I hate to tell Carolyn where I'm going, even if I'm just going to the Jiffy Store, but I like to know where she's going.

"Anyway, after my probation, I got a bad whipping, I mean a bad one. I left that time and never stayed there permanently again. I'd just come in and out and if she started fussing at me, I'd go. I'd leave. Daddy never interfered.

"Now, mama was a good woman, and she caught hell, too. She raised 12 of us. Her oldest child only weighed two pounds when he was born, but his twin, a little girl weighed ten pounds. She died after birth. She had another little girl named Beatrice that lived four or five weeks before she died. Daddy lay drunk a lot and Mama had to do the providing. I lay it all to that. I don't blame mama for it. I drank like dad. I was a teen-age alcoholic. I started drinking at nine years old. I couldn't even pick up a five- gallon jug. I could lean it over an fill up a glass with it. I'd lay out in the woods passed out for hours, drunk. Me and my brother, Joe, would go to square dances at Miller's corner between St. George and Hilliard. We'd always take shine with us and while he was inside dancing I'd be outside passed out. I started liking the girls when I was about 14 or 15 so; when I got out of prison at age 16, I started working for myself, not dad.

"Junior Yarbrough had a car lot next to the Midget Burger on Main Street in Macclenny, so I went and asked Junior if he'd sell me a car on credit. He said, 'Well, go out there and pick you out one,' and he said, 'When can you pay me?. I told him I'd have to haul a few loads of shine and when I'd made a little profit I'd come back and pay for the car. So, he let me have it. I always went for Chrysler products, so I picked out a Chrysler and went and bought some whiskey on credit as well. I got me some contacts and started hauling 'shine to Haines City, Gainesville, and different places. Back then you could buy whiskey stashed out in the woods for about twelve dollars a jug and haul it down state and get twenty five dollars for it. So doubling my money, I accumulated enough to build my own stills, eventually.

"At this time, they had advanced from scratch-feed whiskey to groundhog whiskey. Catfish Stokes built the still, which was a 40-barrel still that I could put 1,800 pounds of sugar in and 200 pounds of wheat brand and 14 pounds of yeast. About every four days, I'd turn out about 70 jugs of whiskey. I was making my own and hauling it. As my profits increased, I would put up another still. I hired some help, but mostly I did it myself and got my car paid off.

"I had a '54 Chrysler that Dub Sands souped up the motor. It had two four-barrel carburetors in it, and there was very little that could keep up with it. I started making good money. I blew a lot of it, gave away some. I had so much money, I thought I'd never need any more money for the rest of my life. I kept it in sacks, in the car, or somewhere like that."

The moonshine profession was hard work, he said, and, unlike what some people think now or thought then, while the money might have been good, it didn't come easy. It was a way to survive during a time jobs for the uneducated and untrained were scarce.

"I had this guy working for me who had one eye. We were about the same age. I had a still about five miles below Saint George on the creek back of Emmaus Primitive Baptist Church, located in the 'Bend' section of Charlton County. It's really a historical church and mama wrote a poem about it once. It was started in 1868 and the old church still has spit holes in the floor for the old timers to spit their tobacco, and they could do it and never miss the hole," he laughed. "There was no fence around it at the time, so we'd pull up by the old oak tree behind the church to unload all our paraphernalia. "All that heavy stuff had to be hauled down to the still by hand and caution taken to hide our tracks so we would not be followed. I'll never forget this particular night because that's when I got my name Skeeter and I've been called that ever since. There was an old drainage ditch that was always filled with water running toward the river, so we'd take and wade in that water far enough to hide our tracks. Then we'd come up on a little bank and walk on down to the still. On this particular night, that this boy was helping me, the mosquitoes were so thick you could swing a pint jar and catch a quart of 'em. They were so thick that they were all over me and I was saying dirty words and cussing and carrying on and he started calling me Skeeter. We got into two or three scrapes over it because I didn't want to be called that, but after I got to thinking about it, I thought, 'Well, it sounds better than what I'm being called now,' so it stuck with me through the years.

"One particular night I was out there by myself when he couldn't help me and it was time to run the still. I had this '54 Chrysler with the seats out and overload springs and it was loaded down with paraphernalia. I had a groundhog still where you put 1800 pounds of sugar in 'em, 14 pounds of yeast, and 200 pounds of wheat brand and it all had to be toted to the still. We had graduated from kerosene to propane by this time and it took four propane bottles to run that 70 jugs of whiskey.

"Just as I started unloading it about 10 p.m., there came up a thunderstorm and lightning started flashing. I heard a noise and it was sorta a bleating noise like bababababa, just an awful noise. The hair stood up on top of my head and I started graying right there. I'm serious, back then we were always pulling tricks on one another and that's what I thought was happening, so I just reached back and started getting more stuff from my car to set under the oak trees.

"After I got it all out of the car, I parked the car by the river and walked back to start toting all the stuff to the still. Just as I did, this big clap of lightning struck again, and I heard this terrible noise once more. I looked out toward the grave yard and saw something white with horns and the reddest eyes you've ever seen. I said, 'That's the devil,' and I mean I got scared. I was the type that I thought, now someone may still be playing a trick on me and I'm not going to leave until I find out. The noise was coming from in the middle of the cemetery and I was so scared that the hair was standing straight up on my neck and chill bumps were all over me. Every time the lightning would strike I could see it.

"Finally I said, 'Well, I've got to find out what this is,' so I got my old '32-20' pistol -- I've still got the very one -- and I reached under the seat. I was afraid to cock it, my hand was just a-shaking. I said, 'That's either the devil or someone is playing a trick on me, and I'm not going to leave until I find out' so I started walking that way, just knowing I was going to catch the devil. We were always taught at home that there was a heaven and hell and Jesus Christ and the devil, and that the devil had horns.

'As I got a little closer and could hear the noise better and see the figure when the lightning struck, I'd made up my mind it was the devil and I said a little prayer. I said, 'God, let me find out for sure if it's the devil; if it is, don't let him get a-hold of me.' I had a flash light in my hand. We moonshiners always carried a flashlight because we had to carry the tip of 'em in our mouths since our hands were always full, and the next day my mouth would be so sore, but that's the way we done it.

"When I got up close to it, I could see that there was an open grave the grave diggers had dug that afternoon. In it was a big old Billie goat one of them that roamed the woods. It had fallen into that grave and that's what it was. He was up on his back feet and I could see his front legs and eyes a-shining and looking my way with his horns. I helped him get out when I calmed down. I kept saying, 'Thank you, Lord, Thank you, Lord, Thank you.'

"It wasn't long after that people began to say, 'You're turning gray-headed,' and I was. That damn Billie goat scared me to death. I moved that still from there because after that I had such a weird feeling. "The next time I located near an old abandoned house where someone had been murdered. A man had beat his wife to death with one of those sticks you hang a hog up with, and they say as she ran around that house it splattered blood all around on the walls. I don't know why I put the still there because every time I went by the place I thought of that. Well, Catfish Stokes had built me two good little stills and they were all sweetened up and there came up a bad storm one night. The rain was hitting me so hard it felt like hail, so I got into my little still buggy and got stuck right away, so I had to walk about two miles to that old house. It was so cold and I was shaking all over, just about to freeze to death.

"When I got there, I noticed many of the boards on the front porch were missing but I wouldn't go inside, so I crawled up against the wall on the front porch. The wind was blowing so hard, and I was really cold and miserable. I finally couldn't stand it, so I got up to go inside. I had always heard that dried blood would actually cause a reflection like a lightning bug, so I crawled up in a corner where no wind could reach me. The windows and doors to the old house had been busted out and the wind just blew right on through. Each time the lightning struck, I could see spots of that woman's blood glowing. I sat there shaking and finally said, I can't stand this anymore,' so I walked three or four miles to where I was staying to get some dry clothes. Later, I found my helper, who went back in there and finished running the two stills for me."

Eventually the stills were blown up by revenuers, he said. "After that I put five stills up. My goal was seven. I hired a couple of guys, but was still hauling most of it. Finally, I reached my goal and had me seven stills. I was into moonshining big time now. There were some big elaborate underground stills in the county and they even had bedrooms and a kitchen in them. You could even drive a car inside them to load up. I hauled the moonshine from my stills and for others as well. I had so much money at one time I had trouble finding a place to put it. I had more than $80,000 stashed away in a suit box I kept in my car.

"Later, most moonshiners got into what we called double-trucking. We'd have an old cut-down vehicle with an old wooden bed on the back of it we called a still buggy. It would usually have a windshield but no hood. Just a junkyard thing. We'd find us a road that had a thick palmetto patch where we'd hide it. We'd put long boards across the ditch to walk across and load all our stuff on the still buggy. Then, we'd drive the still buggy with our supplies to where the still was located and unload. We'd have to bring our shine out the same way, and hide the signs where our vehicles had been. Most of the time this was all done at night and we'd have to go back in the morning as soon as the sun came up to verify that we'd done a good job hiding our tracks from the revenuers. This way you wouldn't have to tote all your equipment so far to the still, which was backbreaking work.

"Sometimes we'd find a good place where somebody lived in the back woods and, maybe, go through their cow pasture to a creek or pond, anything that held water.

"With seven stills, I now had several cars, plenty of money and hired four persons to work for me. My stills could run about 14 quarts of whiskey a minute. I paid $2 a jug for someone to make it, and $1 a jug to haul it You could haul about 65 jugs of whiskey on one of them cars in a two- or three-hour trip, so that was good money. If you wanted, you could turn around and make another trip. I was clearing about $1,200 per still or $10,000 a week- I bought some land, but sold it; I should have kept it, because I got caught again and had to serve more prison time. I left my suit box of money -- more than $40,000 -- with a girl friend, and when I got out she had bought a car and spent most of the rest.

"Have you ever seen the movie, 'Cool Hand Luke?"' he wanted to know. "Well, that is just about how I found it in prison. I got four years from Judge Ben Hodge in Folkston, Georgia, and was put on the Georgia chain gang. You know these big gigantic rocks under the bridges in Georgia? Well, I put lots of 'em there. I transferred from Waycross to Reidsville. If you misbehaved there, they put you in the hot box and you were given bread and water. I was refusing the bread and water when I came down with mumps and went down from 185 pounds to 135. I lost lots of muscle and was transferred to Reidsville Hospital where I regained my health. I was still at Reidsville when they had their last electrocution.

"During this time, there was a murder there and pieces of body were flushed down the commode. I saw them beat one man to death who tried to slip a letter out in an attempt to escape. One man said he personally knew of 18 that had been killed there but it was always reported to be death by natural causes. A lot of things went on there that I knew about. I was rebellious and if a guard raised his voice at someone else I felt I just had to put my two cents worth in. I've been beaten and chairs busted over my head and I'd go right back in the hot box. I don't consider myself a dangerous person, but I don't let people mess with me, or cross me. I never had any trouble making friends, and people seemed to like me because I tried to be honest. If I owed you I paid you.

'While I was in Federal Prison, I was sent to Petersburg, Virginia, and started back in school. I took auto mechanics. In November of '65 I got out and went and bought me another car from Junior Yarbrough on a credit. He sold me a white Plymouth. I bought a load of whiskey and hauled it to Valdosta and on the way I ran out of gas. If I'd known it was a gas hog I would have carried some gas with me, but I didn't. One of the five-gallon cans was leaking and you could smell the whiskey real strong. The first thing that pulled up behind me was a state trooper. I got out of my car and walked back to his, so he wouldn't smell the whiskey. He said, 'What's the matter? and I said, "Well, I'm out of gas of all things, and he said, 'Well, it's not too far to the station up there, I'll run you in and bring some gas back,' and I said, 'I'll get a way back, you don't need to, you need to be watching this highway' and he said, 'No, I'll bring, you back.' So he took me and I put a deposit on the gas can, and the trooper took me back. We were driving back on the expressway and about the time we got back to my car, another car came by going about 100 mph eastbound. He said, "I'll check on you later, I got to go catch this man,' and I said, "I appreciate it, man.' I got my car going, and that was the last load of whiskey I hauled in that direction.

"One night, I came out of Nahunta where we went through a pasture. I was hauling it from Nahunta across to Jacksonville. I came in on old Kings Road, to hit Lane's Avenue. When I got to Beaver Street, my car shut off. The first thing that pulled up behind me was a policeman, at three o'clock in the morning. I had five-gallon cans in the car. I said, 'Man, my car won't crank, can you push me off?' and he said, 'No, I'll call someone to get you going,' and I said, 'I need a push now, I'm running late.' He told me he wasn't supposed to, but he pushed me off, then turned around and went another way. That was my next incident after Valdosta and I said, 'Man, someone's trying to tell me something.'

"By then, I was an habitual crime offender. I'd already been convicted three times, and I could get 10 years the next time, so when I met Carolyn shortly after that, I did just a little bit, not much, before getting out of it. There just wasn't no way I could do 10 years."

Skeeter married pretty Carolyn Long, daughter of Hugh and Irene Long of Macclenny in 1966. "We liked each other at first sight," said his pretty, petite wife. "We met one Friday and the following Friday he asked me to marry him. We went to the judge's office to get our license and two weeks later to the day, we got married," she said. No one thought it would work out because we were both such independent persons, but it has lasted 29 years."

When the couple met, Carolyn said she knew Skeeter was working in moonshine. "Yes, I knew he was dealing in moonshine," she said. "But back then, we didn't think too much about it, everyone seemed to be connected in some way or the other to it. I was surprised I felt that way, because my brother was a police officer, my father a part-time deputy, my sister was a police officer and I had a nephew who worked in homicide."

Carolyn's father, Hugh Long, worked part-time for Baker County Sheriff Ed Yarbrough. Skeeter remembers the Baker County sheriff with respect. "I can't say anything bad about Ed. He was always firm, but fair," he said. "I remember riding through Baker County one time in a '55 Mercury and the sheriff pulled in behind me. I pulled into a truck stop and he pulled in behind me. I said, 'Damn, I hate to get caught with empties,' because that's all I had in the car, but back at that time you could have whiskey or any paraphernalia and it carried the same offense. Well, I pulled back on the highway and he followed me right on. When I passed the inspection station he pulled in and turned around, so from then on when I went to Gainesville, I went through Baxter and Sanderson on 229 to Lake Butler. He had probably seen me before, but I got his message to stay out of Baker County. I knew he'd stop me the next time. I respected him. I didn't come back."

The young couple was given land by her parents across from where she grew up. "Our first home was a trailer," said Carolyn, "but in a short time we began building our present home and through the years have added to it.

Skeeter began lawful employment with Florida Wire and Cable Company in Jacksonville. Before long, he worked up to a crew leader, then went on to become a supervisor.

"When the company opened the plant in Sanderson I was selected to start it up and was made the plant superintendent," he said. "I was in charge of cross-training everybody. I returned to school to get my GED. I don't know how I passed, but I did. Then I took some Dale Carnegie courses, and a business and management course at Florida Community College of Jacksonville (FCCJ) at night," he said. Soon the personable man who had lived mainly in the backwoods of Charlton County, driving souped up vehicles laden with i1legal moonshine, was travelling around the United States representing his company and spiralling upward to reach the top supervisory slot. "If I had it to do over again, there are some things I would change," he says, in a deliberate slow drawl. "I'd be a little better at it, and I would buy land with all my excess money."

One thing he would not change is his marriage. "I never thought about getting married and having a family until I met Carolyn," he said. "We've been very happy."

The couple adopted two children and had one together. "If we had all the children I lost, along with the two we adopted, we'd have had nine children," said Carolyn. "I only carried one baby full term," she said.

Skeeter's criminal record was no obstacle to adopting Lori, who is now married to Daniel Moody, or Ernest, Jr. who , with his Wife Lynn Hodges, have two daughters, Kristy and Delaney. Their biological son is Clay.

"Both my boys are 6 foot 4 inches," he says with obvious pride.

It is easy to see where the couple places their priority. It is their family. Photos grace every wall and table.

Skeeter retired in January 1993 from Wire Mill. "Today, I just spend my time fishing or riding the woods, thinking about my moonshine days," he said. "Sometimes it doesn't even seem real, but it was, and the way I've told it is just the way it happened to me."


'MUELLER, and MAINE'
[Written by MRS. MATILDA GAINEY, St. George, Ga.,
a small town on the edge of the Okefenokee Swamp, Charlton County, Georgia.]

St. George was once a nice little town,
Until Mueller and Maine got to hanging around.
The poor folks here at least they could eat,
And sometimes even give their families a treat.

The law got rough about two years ago,
And Uncle Sam said, "Boys, this bootleggin'must go."
Mueller and Maine caught 'em Til the jails over-flowed,
And they were sentenced by a Judge from way down the state,
While the wives and children were left home to wait
For the father's return from the sentence he gave,
And the poor mothers worked back home like a slave.

The planes would fly by and the cars go scurrying,
While Mueller and Maine got on with their hurrying,
So maybe they'd know whose pot they had found,
Before they got going with that dynamite sound.

Sometimes it seemed the country was at war,
With dynamite a sounding from a near and a far,
The houses would rattle and the earth would shake,
For Mueller and Maine had made another rake.

They got the bootleggers down to their last measly dime,
And couldn't see how they'd set up a still another time,
But the boys figured out a plan even from behind,
To set up a still of a more different kind.

They made them a still of two old drums,
And when they got started the burner did hum.
The whiskey would pour in a great big stream,
And the bootleggers eyes once more did gleam,
For they thought Mueller and Maine,
Had just been out-smarted again.

It began to get hard to get any sugar,
So they named their new still a precious little lugger
The bootleggers had lots of fun I do know,
With Mueller and Maine a hunting stills so.

But when at last they found that lugger,
Mueller and Maine were as mad as a bugger,
For when they charged in on it like a bear,
All they did find was exactly nobody there

But they kept up their slip, slide, sneak and crawl,
Until be darned if they just about ain't got 'em all.


In Memory of Mama
MATILDA HOWARD GAINEY
By her son, Skeeter

If I could give my Mother...all the flowers she has earned-
She would have flowers, to infinity and then some.
She gave birth to fourteen children,
She loved us all the same.
She buried three, eleven still remain.
I never understood how hard her life must have been
To feed and clothe us so we could grow to be women and men.
All she had while she was alive,
Was hard times, trouble and a will to survive
Thank you Mama for everything you have done
And I'll tell the world I'm proud to be your son!


A PRISONER'S PRAYER
Written by Matilda Howard Gainey
For her son Skeeter when he was in prison

When ever I have served my sentence, God,
I pray that I will be
A credit to my country
And to my community.
That I may never stray
Beyond your ten commandments
Or what any law may say
For I have learned my lesson God
And I would start a new
To walk in good society

And live my life for you.
I want to put away my past
And build a future bright
With honesty and decency
And all I know is right
That I may gain your blessings God
And my eternal goal
And by my good example
May save another's soul


GAINEY STREET
By Matilda Gainey

Gardenias are blooming
The air is so sweet
The sun is shining brightly
On Gainey Street
The day is about over
Tomorrow will surely come
No matter what it brings,
It shall be a happy one
For those who look ahead
And hope for the best
And leave it up to Jesus
And he will do the rest
He will surely watch over
And protect us from harm
And securely protect
With His loving arms.
1975


OLD EMMAUS
By Matilda Gainey

Old Emmaus has stood for many years
She has sheltered many joys
She has sheltered many tears
She sheltered the meek
She sheltered the bold
She sheltered the rich
She sheltered the poor
That's why we can't understand
Why the devil would send some evil hands
To try to destroy the poor old thing
When she has done no evil to any man
I know God protected her there
Or the hand of the devil could have stripped her bare
The land would be saddened
The tombs would be bare
Thank you Lord Jesus
For protecting her there.


I AM NOT THERE
by Matilda Gainey

Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there.
I do not sleep, I am a thousand winds,
I am the diamond glints on snow
I am the sun light on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain
When you awake in the mornings hush
I am the swift upflinging rush of quiet birds in circling flight
I am the soft star shine at night
Do not stand at my grave and cry
I am not there.
I did not die


Tommy Gerald Johns
Macclenny, Florida

From the front room of the house where he grew up in north Macclenny, Tommy Johns spins a tale that even amazes him.

"I get to telling all this to people and some times I get to wondering if I'm telling the truth about all the things that happened here," he said.

Born in 1938 to Kathryn (Davis) and Clarence Johns, he probably knows more about the people of Macclenny and Baker County during the days of card games and gambling, moonshine making, bootlegging, and drag-car-racing than any other person living in the area today. He was named in honor of his father's favorite moonshiner, Tommy Holland, of Jacksonville.

From the time he was a small child, he was keenly observant and can chatter off story after story of the extraordinary era he astonishingly lived through. His maternal and paternal lineages connect him in close-knit kinship to almost every major family in Baker County. He is exceptionally likeable, with scores of friends, and his remarkable life has revolved around most of them in a very personal way.

Tommy Johns' life has certainly been no Sunday School picnic. It has been one round of parties, drinking, fast cars, gambling, and moonshine whiskey. He was a senior in high school when his younger brother, Jimmy, was born. He had an older half-brother, George Wray Rhoden. In the atmosphere he lived, he grew up fast. The front room of his parent's modest north Macclenny home was always open to the community, and almost everyone who was someone, and many who were not, lodged there, sometimes for days on end. Some came for a weekend and stayed for years.

"I don't remember a time when there wasn't whiskey dealings, card games and gambling going on in our house," he said. "I can remember most things pretty good from the time I was six years old. For a while my daddy's sister, my Aunt Novie, and her husband, Lloyd Eddings, lived with us, right back there in that back bedroom. Uncle Lloyd killed a man up there on Highway 90 at Frances Grill in 1941. In 1943, they came to spend a weekend with us and stayed here six years. They moved out in 1949 and then my Uncle Dickie (Davis) got married in 1950, and he and his wife moved in that same bedroom for about a year.

"For awhile, we all used the same bathroom, but in 1952 daddy had another one built. Now that was something back in them days to have a couple of bathrooms in your house, because I can even remember when we had an outdoor toilet.

"Grandpa (Richard) Davis had this old house built. I was up there in the attic one day and found where Andra* Mobley had signed his name on the rafters in July, 1933." [*Andrew Jackson Mobley]

"By day, and by night, people came to the house for at least 11 years, and especially during the war. We were one of the first families to get a television set and everyone would gather here to see it, especially the big fights. They'd be sitting all around, even be up and down the halls, even standing on the outside, whites and blacks. I remember how we'd come in here and look at the test patterns waiting on the TV to come on. Howdy Doody would come on first thing. We never thought anything about it. To us it was a way of life."

A way of life was selling moonshine from the house in pints, half-pints, fifths, a gallon, or even five gallons, if you wanted it.

"Daddy made, bought, sold and hauled whiskey. In 1943, he started bottling and selling it here at the house. We'd store it in the attic, and bring it down at night by the five- gallon jugs. We'd bottle about 32 halves, 16 pints and 8 fifths, except on weekends or holidays we'd bring down more. We bought our bottles from Duval Spirit and Bottle Company out of Jacksonville.

When we first started out doing it, kids would bring us used bottles and mama and daddy would pay them two cents apiece. You could see little kids coming up the street and it was nothing to see them with a half-pint in each pocket, and he'd make himself four or six cents, how ever many bottles he had. We would wash them out and use them to bottle our whiskey.

"For years, we had big card games at our house and some people would play for days without leaving. We made good money. I've seen some of the people bring sacks full of money in here and play for days at the time. It was just a scheduled thing and daddy would cut the pot about every other hand for a dollar. I had me a little shelf where I sold cigarettes and chewing gum, and candy and such as that. I had me a bank account back when Coca-Colas were a nickel.

"People would come and go all the time and I've seen cars parked all over everywhere and almost to Highway 90. They'd be playing music up here and have two card games going at one time, and I mean big money, some of the biggest and most influential people in - and out-of-town came. People from Jacksonville came, like Sheriff Rex Sweat and some of his deputies. I can remember four or five guns laying over there on that big table in their holsters that the detectives would take off while they played. "Some people would lay down and sleep an hour or two, especially if they got hooked, you know, and just play on through the night and into the next day. I'd go to bed when I got sleepy. I could sleep right through it. Mama always had something cooked and they'd usually leave her nice tips, and as Aunt Novie always said, it was just like one big happy family. I never remember no arguments, or anyone acting up or being ugly or using bad language. If there was, I don't remember it. It was a fun life because I knew everybody and everybody knew me. And the people, when they gambled, would relate funny stories, and if they told a joke unsuitable, they'd ask me to leave, because I was younger. Even when I got older they'd say, 'Tommy, why don't you go in the next room?-- and I would.

"I enjoyed it when some of my great uncles would come over here and sit and visit in the front room. They'd buy a pint of whisky and when it got time for 'em to take a drink they'd get up and go to the back of the house to do it. They'd just sit and talk for hours. I remember how one of my uncles, during the war, would get to drinking and he'd take his old knife out and go to sharpening it, and he'd say, 'I'm going to cut that old Mussolini's mustache and Tojo. And Hitler. I'm going to get him too.' And everyone would laugh. People came here to drink and play cards just like they do at the 121 Club, and they were regulars for years.

"Some of them were real interesting too, like Tinsey McEwen. He'd come here to watch the 64 Million Dollar Question on television and I remember that before they'd get the question finished, he would answer it. He was real smart. People were regulars and we expected them, you know, they just came to fellowship and drink and enjoy the music -- someone was always playing music.

"And they'd come at all hours, day and night, to buy whiskey or do business with daddy. I could tell, just like mama and daddy, who it was that knocked on the door and what kind of whiskey to go and get and how much. I knew if I was to put it on their charge account, or if they would pay. I'd go write it down on a pad. Everyone had their own knock, their own characteristics.

"If I was going to bring a friend home with me after school, I'd look the situation over before I'd bring them in. I had as good a mama and daddy as you could get, but it was a strain sometimes, as I grew older. You know, like when I'd go to birthday parties, like to the homes of people like the Gilberts, the Frasers or Hiers. But, I want to make one thing clear. They were always nice to me and treated me like a perfect gentleman. They were just people that never messed with Whiskey in their life, but they all treated me like anybody else. I always had an inner fear that something would come up about what mama and daddy did. Mama and daddy always would tell me they didn't ever want me to mess with it. Daddy would say, 'I want you to get an education and go to college.' They'd say, 'This life is no good, can't you see it is a strain living like this?' and daddy would say, 'I don't like doing it, but I have to provide for you and your mama. I don't have any education or another way to make a living.' Daddy had about a fifth grade education.

"Daddy's mama had 16 children in 24 years. His parents, Jessie (Prevatt) and Ernest Johns, did the best they could raising their big family. I remember how grandma loved her children, and she'd better not catch any of them talking about the other one. She'd stop them right in their tracks, and she'd say, 'Hold it! You're talking about your brother or sister.' Grandma knew when each one was born; she remembered their birthdays. Two of her children, Junior and Carl, died when they were little. Besides there was an infant that died, and then Nellie, Freddie, Thelma, Jennie, Shep, Novie, Carl, Junior, Lonnie, Bobby, Lois, Virginia, another infant that died, and Eugene (Lefty). Grandma lived to bury seven of her children. Today, Thelma, Novie, Virginia and Eugene are all that are living.

"But daddy went away to prison when he was a teen-ager in the place of an uncle who was caught with moonshine. He just turned himself in and gave his name as Colonel Johns which was his daddy's brother. I think daddy was always a little embarrassed about them times he pulled in prison. He served two times before he married mama.

"He was shot up pretty bad in Titusville, Florida, running from the law. He ran a road block, and they chased him and shot at him. Daddy run and got away and crawled under a house. There was a boy walking his girl to the door, saying good-night and they saw daddy crawl under the house, so they called and reported it. The law surrounded the house and just stuck their shotguns under there and started shooting. Daddy had pulled up and was hanging onto the rafters, but he still got a bunch in the back and legs. Somehow, he ran out from there and was running down the road. The bullets kept knocking him down and he said he thought he was falling because he was trying to run fast. He stayed in the hospital a long time befofe serving prison time. For the rest of his life, you could still see the bullets when they took x-rays. That's when daddy started selling whiskey from the house. Times were hard and it was during the war. He had a kidney taken out and we didn't have any money. I know it must have been Grandpa Davis who was feeding us.

"I can remember one Christmas, we were so poor after daddy had his kidney taken out. There was no substance or programs available back then to help and daddy couldn't work. I got a ball that Christmas, that's all, and I'll never forget it had stars on it. I remember that I felt very fortunate to even get the ball and I slept with it for a long time so no one would take it away from me. And the next Christmas, I got a pack of fire crackers. But by the next Christmas, daddy was back on his feet and we had a new car sitting out in front of our house, I got a BB gun and I had a wagon under the tree and it full of presents. Even when we were real poor, though, the lack of money never took away our love or closeness in the family. I guess we were so dependent on each other.

"Daddy used to haul whiskey to the Al Capone gang down in Miami and they would hide the whiskey in the elevator shafts of their hotels. I remember daddy saying he could drive right on in and unload his whiskey, sorta like a basement. And when he got well after the kidney operation, he started in the whiskey business in a big way again. He hauled to the Queen of the Bootleggers, a lady named Sue Cause, in Miami. She shot a revenuer right between the eyes and the bullet somehow went around his skull and came out the back of his head. He lived, but she had to go to prison. The day she got out of prison, she came to our house. We knew she was coming and we were all dressed a little nicer than usual. I must have been about 10 or 12 years old, but I remember we were all excited. It was just like the movies. They drove in this big LaSalle car. She got out with these two guys who had striped double-breasted suits on. I'll never forget one of 'em had two teeth out and his hair was slicked back. They got out and she came in here and sat down. Daddy called me and said, 'Come here, son, I want you to meet Sue Cause. She's Queen of the Bootleggers.'

"I was impressed and I thought that was an honor to have her sittin' there. She said, 'Yeah, I heard you had a boy,' and she gave me a present that the prisoners had made over there. She gave us a copy of Look Magazine that had her picture on the front cover. It said, 'Sue Cause, Queen of the Bootleggers.' I remember they sat around and talked about the future of the whiskey business, who was still in it and who wasn't. I was taking it all in. They talked about who to trust and who not to trust. It was just like a business meeting of the county commissioners discussing paving a road. I remembered feeling so honored that she had come to our house. I've never forgotten that day, or Sue Cause.

"Daddy hid whiskey in our attic. The outside vent was too sma11 to get a five-gallon jug through, so he had a larger vent made and we would put it up there at night. Daddy would age some of the whiskey and that brought more money. We had a concealed place in our bedroom closet where we could hide five five-gallon jugs broken down into pints, half-pints, etc. We could just lift the floor up and place it in this hollow place. The revenuers use to come in and look through the closets, and the floor would be just full of shoes and they never found it. It's been nailed down and boarded up, now.

"Daddy had whiskey buried all around the place and I remember one time, daddy had some liquor buried not far from our house. The woods caught on fire, right about where Fraser Hospital is now. The fire chief was Teddy Bear Yarbrough and he came rolling up there in his fire truck and daddy yelled at him to put the fire out over his whiskey first, so Teddy Bear did. Everyone around there was helping to tote daddy's whiskey back across the road. I remember the sheriffs car was coming and somebody yelled to run stop them until we could save all daddy's whiskey. And they did.

"Daddy had some people working for him selling whiskey. one time one of them got caught, and daddy helped take care of that family.

"I remember people took you at your word back then. They trusted you. People brought daddy and mama money up here for whiskey bills and they never counted the money. I can never remember them doing that. I'd go with daddy to buy a load, but mostly we made most of our own at our own stills. Daddy always had a still, and what made our whiskey good clean whiskey was the clean copper stills and good wooden barrels daddy used. He always hired someone to make the whiskey for him.

"Grandpa Davis built the first telephone company in Baker County. He lived in the first block off Main Street on North College and the telephone company was across the street from his house. He eventually gave it to some widow woman. It didn't have any air conditioning and Dorothy Byrd was the telephone operator. She would sit out on the front porch where it was cool. I remember Uncle Lloyd would be trying to get the phone and he'd go out on our front porch and holler to the next block, 'Dot, go inside and answer the phone!' Dot kept us posted when the revenuers were spotted. Someone would call her and they'd say, 'The bull is out,' and she'd call and say, 'The bull is out' and we'd know to be careful.

"Daddy had the distinction of opening the first bar in Macclenny, and there are still bullet holes in the ceiling where they used to shoot up the place, right at the corner of 228 and Main Street. Daddy didn't drink. I used to see him taste it to see if it was good whiskey. I was in college when I drank my first drink.

"I remember one time one of my friends came up here to the house to buy some whiskey, and daddy asked him if he was old enough. I reckon he was trying to do a little right.

"I remember one time when I was young and impressionable, Uncle Dickie came by and said, 'Come run down to Umatilla, Florida with me. I've got to pick up some money' so I got in the car with him. I remember he drove fast, but you know that was the times back then and to mama and daddy that was no more to them than if I was going to get a loaf of bread. When we got there, he pulled in the woods and I'll never forget it. He pulled right off to the left of the highway and put the car in park and reached right up in an oak tree and got the dangest sack of money you've ever seen. It was $800, all in tens and twenties. I was young, so therefore it looked like an enormous amount of money to me. He just put it in the seat and we turned right around and came back.

The house is still standing today that daddy owned across the street from Knabb's Sports Complex on West Boulevard North. We stored whiskey there for several years, and I remember it was so full of whiskey we had to make trails to walk through. The same in the attic and I'm guessing we had about 50 or so five-gallon jugs stored there for further distribution.

"I remember going with daddy to the train depot in Macclenny on at least one or two occasions when he sent several five-gallon jugs of moonshine to Tallahassee. We pulled up to the east side of the platform and two African-American train conductors knew all about it because they took the shine and loaded it onto the car and it headed out to Tallahassee.

"We used to race a lot. People were always coming up here trying to get daddy to race. Tommy Moon used to fix up his cars to run fast. People would be lining 121 at Turkey Creek Bridge, where we started, and we'd go all the way to Cute Starling's juke. Then we started racing further, because Eulie Dugger would come home with a patrol car and we'd race the patrol car. Daddy never lost a race.

"Junior Crockett and Ray Dinkins bought the Kaiser/Frazier place, and Junior came here one day and wanted to race daddy. Daddy had a Hudson Hornet. They started right there on 121 at Dr. Watson's house, and I think daddy passed them right there where Aunt Novie and Uncle Lloyd had all their cows. There was some manure in the road and the impact just threw it up on their windshield.

"Daddy always had a number 68 tag on his car. We wouldn't buy a 52 tag because people would know we were from Baker County and they were liable to pull you over and look for moonshine. There were only 67 counties in Florida, but we could buy a number 68 which meant office agent. Daddy got them through the mail somewhere.

"We used to race and do just about anything when Charlie Johns was governor. We would pull out our driver's license and they would say,'You kin to Charlie? and we'd say, 'Yeah,' and they'd say,'Go ahead.' That happened several times.

"Daddy got to where he'd let me go for small loads of whiskey, especially if he was into a big poker game and really winning. I'd been with him so much, I knew how to do it. I could tell if it was good liquor or not. You'd shake the jug about three times and if the bubbles left the edges and went to the center, it was 100 proof. If they went up and didn't all connect, it was under a 100. I could taste it and tell if it was made in a copper still. Daddy insisted our stills be kept neat; he didn't allow any paper or old bottles around, or if you were drinking a Pepsi, you didn't just throw your bottle down, you had to put it away. We never went to the still the same way, either, in case someone was watching us.

"Daddy let me borrow his car and he knew I raced. I was caught speeding with someone over in Lake Butler on my way to a ball game, and was fined. They let me go but I was supposed to come back to pay my fine. When I got home and told daddy, he just said, 'Well, did you win the race?' and I said, 'Yes, Sir,' and he said, "Well, go pay the fine.' One time, Daddy had a new '53 Olds and I'd drive it uptown and loan it to my first cousin, Maurice Prevatt, to take his date out and I'd just walk around hunting me a way to ride around. Maurice was older and I looked up to him and some of the others like him that played football.

"I totaled two cars and one had to take two wreckers to bring the pieces in. It was strung up and down 90. I was driving and Bobby Thomas, who was in the back seat, said, 'How fast are we going?' and George Taylor said, 'You can't see the speedometer.' About that time the right front tire blowed out and we started rolling over. It took the hair off Zade Cowart's head and required 23 stitches. John Porterfield and Steve Johns and the others were slung out all through them woods. George's eye stayed black and blue for almost a year. We didn't have any sense of fear back then. It's a wonder we lived because such as that went on all the time.

"Fortunately, I had one experience that was very positive for me. Things could get pretty hectic around our house at report card time, so one day, Lonnie Dugger, who was my high school principal, caught me signing my own report card because it wasn't a very good one to take home for daddy to sign. He said he wanted to see me in his office, so I went in there and noticed my report card on his desk. I didn't realize it until then just how much interest Lonnie' Dugger had in me, and I'm sure all the other students. From then on, I made good grades in my junior and senior year, and I made sure daddy signed. If I made anything lower than a 'C', I'd have to come in after school to study and make it up, and he would be the one that would stay after school with me. That was a blessing that I got caught because that, really helped me. My brother, George Wray, had the knowledge of just how important an education was and he was always on me to study. And mama and daddy stressed education and would always say to me, 'Can't you see the strain we're under, don't do what we're doing.' I guess I couldn't because we had all them big card games and I saw all those sacks of money and it was influencing.

"Eventually, Daddy wanted to get out of the whiskey business. The law was closing in and searching with airplanes. Radios had come out in the police cars. He knew it was time to get out and when we got out, we got out altogether.

Daddy built a truck stop on north 121 in 1956 across the street from Uncle Dickie's house. It was open 24 hours a day. He was under such a strain and I could tell it because he thought the internal revenue was going to come around and say, 'Where did you get the money to build this?' Daddy would have the money, but he'd have to go to the bank and borrow the money, and then pay the bank back. I can remember that after a couple of years, after no one came around asking questions, we started breathing easier and thinking, 'Well, we're going to get by, we've made it.' I remember when we got the ice machine, the guy brought it out here and daddy said, 'I want to pay you cash, but I'm just scared.'

"Almost everyone gathered at the truck stop to eat, just like they did at our house to play cards. One time, my little brother, Jimmy, walked up to one of the most influential men in Macclenny, Billy Knabb, who was eating lunch there with some friends. Jimmy knew him when he used to come to our house to play cards. Right in front of everyone, Jimmy said, 'Hi, Mr. Knabb. Ya'll getting up a little game?' That man still gets a laugh out of that today.

"Daddy sold the truck stop after 12 years. Then he went to work as a jailer at the jail and mama their cook/dietician. They retired 10 years after that."

Tommy went off to college with his best friend, Pee Wee Brinson, in 1956. He was 25 years old when he married Jacquelyn 'Jackie' Colley from Starke. Their 16-year marriage produced two children, Tommy Gerald Johns II and Leslie Jacquelyn Johns. Three years ago, he married Janie Echols.

An avid sports fan, his home is decorated from front-to-back with Florida Gator souvenirs. The station wagon he proudly drives has more than 352 Florida University Gator stickers plastered over the entire body of the vehicle and a sign that says, 'A Gator Fan is in this Vehicle.'

Would he change his life in any way, if he could live it over?

"You know if I could live my life over, I'd want my mama and daddy to have a job like everybody else, because it was a strain, if you get down to it, the bottom line. They were as good a mama and daddy as you could get. They loved me, and I certainly loved them, but it was a hard life on all of us due to the constant strain."

After the death of Kathryn Johns in 1985, Clarence began attending church with his sister, Novie. She was a member of "The Lord's Church" in Taylor, whose pastor is former sheriff Ed Yarbrough. In 1986, Clarence's health failed. As he lay in a coma in a Jacksonville hospital, his grieving family decided to phone Reverend Yarbrough to come. The former sheriff- turned-preacher, did. And this is how he remembers the incident.

"Clarence started coming to church with his sister, Novie, after his wife died. He was just as nice and kind as he could be. After he became ill and hospitalized, the family asked me if I'd visit him. So after church one Sunday afternoon, my wife Faye and I went and joined his family at his bedside. It was evident that the family expected him to die from his condition because he had been in a coma for so long. When I went in, we gathered and had a prayer for him, and Clarence opened his eyes. I said, 'Brother Clarence, do you know who this is?' and he kinda smiled and said, 'Yeah, Sheriff, you didn't come to put me in jail did you?'

"Well, after he said that I knew he was coherent, so we started talking about the Lord. I asked him some questions like, 'Do you believe in the Lord?' And he said he did. I then said, 'Brother Clarence, would you like to join the church?' and he said, "Yeah, I would.' So then I went through the same questions we ask when one comes down to the altar, such as if they believe Christ is the true Son of God, and born of the Virgin Mary. He said 'Yes' to all of them. So I began to look around for something to baptize him since he'd made his confession of faith. I got a little pan of water and a wash cloth and everyone gathered around his bed and in the room. I couldn't baptize him the traditional way that we believe in doing, because we couldn't take him up out of his sick bed, so all we could do was go through a formality So I dipped the cloth in the clean water and squeezed it on his head and wiped it off with the towel, and said the words,' I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Ghost.'

"Everyone was just amazed, they could hardly believe it. I'd never known Clarence to be in any church much -- he may have gone and I never knew about it -- and so after all these years to have him come to me, after I wasn't sheriff any longer, and he wasn't a bootlegger any longer, and say that he wanted to join our church, it was a wonder."

Tommy Johns agrees.

"You could feel the Spirit of the Lord there, and right after that daddy went back in the coma. We moved him to a nursing home and he died almost two days to the year after mama."

Ed Yarbrough preached his funeral, and then Clarence Johns was laid to rest beside his wife in Woodlawn Cemetery. One of the most vibrant sagas and two of the most colorful characters of its era were gone.

In the past 17 years, Tommy has had three cardiac arrests, two heart attacks, and two "balloons." He's been in the hospital more than 20 times.

"The last time I was in the hospital, I knew I was at the cross roads," he said.

"On Friday, I had been out in the yard feeding my dogs when I felt something coming on. I came in and took nitroglycerin, lay down and waited on Janie to come home. We had Reverend John Chesser from the Assembly of God Church come over and pray for me, and I prayed. I didn't get any better, so on Sunday we called my doctor in Gainesville and he said to bring me on in. I told everyone that I knew God was going to heal me or he was going to touch my doctor and he was going to do something different.

"They started working on me by the time I arrived at the hospital. They catherized me. I watched them do it, I've always been able to watch it each time they do it. Three months before they had done a balloon, and two years before that open heart surgery in Alabama. I remember watching the Super Bowl game that night and got some relief. Then the doctor came into my room and said, 'Tommy, I can't find a thing in the world wrong with you.' He told me he was going to put nuclear dye in me in the morning just to see if he had missed something. He said that would show it up. But after that he said, he still couldn't find anything wrong with me. He said, 'Go home and do what you feel like doing. I can't give you no instructions.' He said 'I know something was wrong when you got here, but now I can't find anything.'

"I remember one time they were working on me in Gainesville, and Janie was standing there crying a little bit, and one paramedic said, 'Honey, we're going to take good care of your daddy.' I raised up on the stretcher and said, 'Daddy? That's my wife.'

I had been going to church for about a year when that happened in Gainesville last year, and I told Janie the Lord had healed me and I was going to serve Him the rest of my life, and I mean serve Him. Before we got married, we were both tired of our lives; she had been single six years and I had been single six years. She had been married twice and I'd been married twice. We'd been dating six years, so we said we were going to find a marriage counselor and be counseled before we got married. She had been going to the Macclenny Assembly of God and said the minister was a marriage counselor. I asked her where she was going to church and she told me it was a Pentecostal. I said, 'What is that, a holy roller?' I told her I wanted to go to church where I could bend a little. But we went to her minister, who was John Chesser, and he has a license to be a marriage counselor. I felt comfortable right there at the Assembly of God. He wouldn't even marry us unless we went through marriage counseling.

"I was elected a deacon last week. It takes three years to be a deacon before you can even be elected, and then you can't be if you've been divorced. However, the Board wavered, and I got elected.

I've been studying the Bible. The guy that just studies it occasionally can't talk to me about the Bible because I'm getting to know it pretty good. I study almost every day, because it takes a lot of studying to finally get the whole picture. I haven't missed but twice in three years.

"I was sitting in church the other night when the Super Bowl game was going on, and you know how I love football, well it didn't bother me a bit. I went right on to church and I came home at half time and flipped it on, but it didn't bother me not to be seeing it while he was up there preaching. I mean I got it. I wanted it and it took me two years to get it like I wanted it. I mean I just stayed in the word. It used to didn't mean anything to me to hear people say, 'You got to stay in the word, you got to stay in the word,' and then it started falling in place and I began to see everything as I studied and studied. I went and I listened. I went to hear people preach. I went to hear Rodney Howard from South Africa, and other people from all walks of life. I'm just analyzing and absorbing. I'd say, 'Lord, I want it, Lord, I want it. You saved me, but I want that anointing power, I want the Holy Ghost. I believe in it, and I want it.' So I worked for it and I got it just about ten minutes after four a.m. early Saturday morning after the Super Bowl game last year (January, 1994). I had gotten up and gone to the bathroom. I felt I had been awakened up for something, but I lay back down and pulled that cover up and got comfortable, and buddy, it was Bamm!. I come out of that bed and it was just like you had turned on a light and grabbed me out of bed from a deep sleep. It wasn't put on, I wasn't dreaming, but when I come out of that bed, I was a saved Christian person. I told them at church, and this is just me talking, but it's how I feel. You know you are saved when you are not afraid of dying. I said, 'if you're afraid of dying, then you're not saved. Now, that's just the way I feel personally about it. I have another saying I've come up with I like, and that is, 'Death couldn't conquer Him, and the grave couldn't hold Him.'That's just what suits me!

"I've had this house anointed. I got the preacher to come here with oil, because I believe in all them demons and all. We used to sell liquor and gamble and all, so I got this house clean. Anytime the devil wants to come in here, I say, 'Come on in, buddy, I got a chair for you, then I tell him, 'You remember the cross?' And the Devil says,"what about the cross?' and I say, 'He was on the cross but He is the only one who ever come back, and there have been a lot who have died, but Christ is the only one who has come back from that grave.' "All of those times that I thought were good times, dancing and drinking that liquor, and oh, how I loved to dance, me and my wife, but all them times, I've tried to be a gentleman. One reason I think the Lord let me live is I never cussed; for some reason, I just never did. I was telling someone the other day that and how I'd cleaned up my life completely, and she made me feel good when she said, 'Well, you didn't have much to clean up.' But, I did. I went through some marriages, and if you want to lay fault I didn't show the leadership and all I should. I was drinking that liquor and beer and dancing and partying and that was it, and now it seems like a bad dream, and it seems like I never done it. Today, there is no high like getting in that church!

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Richard H. 'Dickie' Davis
Macclenny, Florida

Hard work is nothing new to Dickie Davis. He has been doing it all of his life. in addition, he has worked for the county he proudly calls home, serving and contributing his time and resources for as long as he can remember. Those who know him best describe him as ambitious, industrious, enterprising, frugal, and always, without fail, a dedicated and fervent worker in all he undertakes to do.

When this county native was growing up in Macclenny, it was a time when things were beginning to emerge from behind a dark cloud of recession. His hardworking, God-fearing father, Richard John Davis, overcame the obstacles of destitution during the time of the Great Depression in the nation, and started, in 1931, what is today The R.H. Davis Oil Company.

'Daddy and I used to get up about 4 a.m. and go down to open the station in downtown Macclenny, and while daddy went to Jacksonville for a load of fuel, I pumped gas and ran the station until he got back, then I'd go to school," he said. "Daddy never knew anything but hard work, and he taught me the value of it for as long as I can remember."

During his high school years, Dickie excelled in sports. The first football team was organized in 1945 and the following year, he joined the squad. His most ardent supporter was his mother, Carrie, who faithfully attended all of his basketball and football games. He was among the most popular in the close knit group of students of Macclenny-Glen High School and even today maintains close personal friendships with most of them.

Following graduation in 1950, he married his high school sweetheart and class beauty, Virginia ware.

"I took a job working for Walter Denison and Son in Jacksonville making 75 cents an hour," he said. " Mr. C.K. Tharpe was general manager."

Davis said it was a coincidence that he got started hauling moonshine.

"I used to stay at the home of my sister, Kathryn, and brother-in-law, Clarence Johns, a lot. It was on one of these occasions that a man came by from Gainesville that needed someone to haul him some whiskey. I told him I'd carry him some, and it just went from there. I was making $28 a week in Jacksonville working all day long, and I'd make $150 a night hauling moonshine to the man in Gainesville. I carried him 30 jugs three times a week and would get up the next morning and go to work for 75 cents an hour. I never missed a day's work the whole time I did that, and I did it until I was drafted into the army and left for Korea," he said.

The military paid him $75 a month. In just a few days time he was promoted from a private to a sergeant. "I spent my 21st birthday on a ship going overseas and my 22nd one coming home," he said.

When Dickie returned from Korea, his marriage was over. "I didn't have fifteen cents to my name when I got home," he said. "But I had a beautiful daughter, Renee'."

"When I was discharged on April 21, 1953, I borrowed the money from my sister Kathryn to buy me a 1952 Cadillac and hauled enough moonshine to pay her paid back in three weeks," he said. Davis took a job with his father driving a fuel truck for $45 a week. But that was not nearly enough money to live on, so by day he drove the fuel truck down Baker County's dusty, unpaved roads, hauling kerosene and gas in a small delivery truck like his father. At night he rumbled down Baker County's backroads and Florida's by-ways in his souped-up Cadillac and other fast cars, hauling moonshine. Besides hauling whiskey, he seized the opportunity to haul and sell sugar to the local moonshiners. It was a chance to get ahead of the low-paying, low-scale jobs in the '50's... that is, if you could even find one. It had long been a way of life in Baker County as a means of supplementing family incomes and at that time few people thought anything about it.

Dickie said he rarely slept during those days. "Eventually, I was able to financially back some moonshine stills and owned half-interest in them. I hauled a load almost every night, and hired people to haul for me, as well," he said.

"The only reason I messed with sugar was to trade it for shine and double my profit. The moonshiners would come and get 30-40 sacks of sugar from me and they would owe me, in exchange, 30-40 jugs of whiskey. I was hauling whiskey to Tampa where I had connections to get sugar right off the ship. Sometimes I'd go almost a week a time and not hardly sleep."

Hauling sugar and moonshine by night, and faithful to never miss a day's work kept him busy, but he had time to meet a 1952 graduate from Macclenny High School, Taylor native Faye Cowart.

"Faye was working up at Odom's Department Store in Macclenny. We met sometime the summer after I got home from Korea and we married January 28, the next year," he said. The couple moved into a small apartment in Macclenny. "When Faye and I got married, I was doing very well. I had half interest in seven stills, and a week later I didn't have the first one. They tore them all up that week," he said.

"After we got married, I really didn't want him hauling himself, so he hired somebody else to haul for him most of the time," said Faye.

The couple remembers some harrowing as well as humorous experiences. I didn't get involved or have anything to do with it," said Faye, "but once I had to go over and get him out of jail," she said. "Dickie was arrested while speeding and running from the law," she explained. "They had blocked the road at the Ellerby curve so they got Dickie and took him to jail in Lake Butler. He was charged $500 and given 30 days in jail.

I was expecting our first baby any day, so I went over there. I had the money, but they would not let him out. I remembered that I had met a judge from there who had attended some parties in Baker County, so I asked if he was in, and they told me he was. So I went in his office, and I said, 'Judge I've got a problem,' and he looked at me and saw I was pregnant, but he recognized me, and he listened to me tell him about Dickie. I said, 'My husband got put in jail last night, and you charged him a $500 fine, and gave him 30 days.' I told him I didn't mind paying the $ 500 but I couldn't stand him in jail for 30 days,' so he said to a man standing there, 'Go let Mr. Davis out."'

"I'm sure I would have been kept there the 30 days had Faye not gone over there and talked to that judge," he said.

Dickie said while most of the moonshiners in Baker County took their hauls through Baxter and were always being chased by the law, he went SR 90 through Lake City and seldom had the same problems.

The couple lived conservatively and stashed away cash money, never using a bank. "I used Mama's pocket book," said Dickie. " I never touched a penny of it, and many times she went to church with that old pocketbook full of money.

"One time, we lived in that little old apartment up town and won't ever forget it. I was walking the floor one night. It was pretty late and Faye got up and said, 'What in the world is wrong with you, and I said, 'Junior Crockett is up there in Georgia right now, somewhere running a hundred miles an hour and he owes me about $12,000. If he gets killed up there, I'll never get a nickel of it.

"I had let some boys have about four or five truck loads of sugar and Junior was standing good for it," he explained.

"It was just a few nights later that Junior knocked on the door and came in and sat a whole sack of money up there on the table and said, 'Get out what I owe you.' He just sat there and slept while I counted it, and I put the rest of it back in the sack and he got up and left.

"Back then you didn't have nothing written down on paper, it was just a man's word. I knew if Junior Crockett lived, he'd pay me, but if he was laying down there at Brinkley's, he couldn't."

"Bootleggers had morals, and they were trustworthy people back then," said Faye. "They wouldn't let you curse around ladies; they'd get you if you did and call you down."

The Davis couple especially remember Junior Crockett, one of the most prosperous of the Baker County moonshiners. "I want to tell you something about Junior Crockett," said Dickie. " He was always honest with people. If Junior told you something, he would do it. Junior Crockett helped a lot of people in this county. Everybody always wants to talk about the bad things and seldom say anything about the good, but Crockett helped many an old farmer and people out there in these woods. No telling what people owed him at the drug store. His daddy delivered me into the world, and he was the same way. If you called him he would come, if you had money or didn't have it. He was a fine man, too.

"I always kept my dealings pretty quiet," said Dickie. "And I worked for anyone but myself. I'd buy sugar in Jacksonville, 120 sacks at a time and bring it out here on a truck. It was only $8.25 for a 100-pound sack. I even hauled it off the docks when it arrived from Cuba, bringing back 250 sacks at a time from Tampa. If I traded for moonshine, I could make more money, often doubling it if I hauled it to Miami or Tampa. Most of the moonshine I hauled from Baker county went into counties that were dry, up in Georgia."

Once he purchased a police car. "I bought the car that Deputy Charney Rhoden drove, a 1940 Ford with a Lincoln engine. It had a siren and all on it," he said.

Fast cars, out-running the law, initiating fast car races, 'out foxing' the authorities was life in the fast lane, and Dickie Davis had a part in all of it. His stories are endless and even as candid and frank as he normally is, he steadfastly refuses to relate some of them.

"In the first place, you wouldn't believe them, and in the next place, I wouldn't want them printed," he said.

The Davis's memories of those days are very vivid, and their strong ties to those who were involved are manifest as they relate story after story that lingers from that era of time.

"I remember something about Catfish Stokes I'll never forget and it always brings a chuckle," he said, talking about the man who, one time, constructed most of the moonshine stills in the county. "One night, me and him were up there in Lake City. We went to see someone about some whiskey and when I picked him up to go with me, he just happened to be barefooted (which was pretty natural for Catfish), and had his britches' legs rolled up. We were out in the woods about half way to the man's house when our old car blowed up, so we decided to walk back to Lake City and call someone in Macclenny to come get us. It was pouring down rain. We were walking down this old road, soaking wet, and Catfish said, 'Now here I am out here, barefooted, and I got enough money in my pockets right now to burn a wet mule.' I think he had about three or four thousand dollars crammed in his pockets that day," Dickie laughed.

In 1959 something happened that changed the Davis's life. "I came home one day and told Faye I was quitting. I said, 'I'm selling all my cars and equipment,' and the reason I did was because I saw that the people were getting down on it. People were telling on their neighbors and things were beginning to change. Our son, Ricky, was growing up and we had a new baby daughter, Dana. I told Faye, 'Things are beginning to change and I'm going to change with it I don't want my kids to grow up in nothing like this.' So I quit...just like that!"

Contrary to what many people conceive as moonshine days of money rolling in by the barrels, Davis said it was not true.

"Back in the' 50's, any amount of money was a lot, because there just wasn't much money around any place. The average salary was $30 a week. What little people made, it took every penny to live if you had a car or a piece of land somewhere. Moonshine supplemented what little you could make at a regular job, and the money was used for necessities. About the time a moonshiner got a little money, his still was torn up or his car confiscated. You'd have to start over. But it was a job, and it paid better than other jobs that were available in those days. It was hard work, too. There was nothing easy about it."

After Davis gave up any activities connected with the moonshine industry he continued to work with his father in the fuel oil business.

"It wasn't long after that when daddy came over to the house one day and he said, 'Son, I'm retiring. I'm going to start drawing my social security and I want to sell out to you.' I said, 'How much do you want?' and he told me. I went into the back room, got the money and handed it to him right then. I was also in the pulp wood business with a man named Roy Snow and I was making good money doing that. Snow ran it, and I helped him some. I had bought the pulp wood trucks and he did the business end."

Although Davis admits that hauling moonshine may have helped him get a jump on life financially it was the consistent hard work and shrewd handling of his combined incomes that gave him the real start.

"I never missed a day's work from my other jobs," he mused. 'Even when I was making seventy-five cents an hour by day, and $150 by night. I worked steady for daddy by day and for myself in moonshine by night. I've always been frugal with my money."

Today, the R.H. Davis oil Company, boasts of six trucks and eight modern Exxon stations. It is still a father-and-son operation although his father died in 1969. Today, Dickie's son, Ricky, is affiliated with the company which is located on 121 north of Macclenny. In addition, the business has now expanded to a fourth generation Davis. Richard's great grandson, Max, who is Ricky's son, will help carry on the business legacy when he graduates from college.

LP gas was added to the business in June 1983, and more than 50 employees staff the office, service and delivery departments.

Before his death, Richard J. Davis was an active member of the Primitive Baptist Church where he served as a deacon. Among the many things he did for the community was helping to build the present day Macclenny Primitive Baptist Church. He served for six years as a Baker County School Board member. He assisted the needs of the school system during times when it was left up to the parents and citizens if activities, such as a football team, were organized for the youth. If it was a program to back the youth, or community, Richard Davis' name was always on the list of supporters and contributors.

Like his father, Dickie contributes his services to the community in many varied ways. His company is continually asked for support and contributions, and for years they have sponsored sports groups such as Little League. The many civic interests he has supported have been varied. In minutes after hearing about the project SOS (Save Our Station) and the need for a place to move the historic Macclenny railroad depot, he came up with the suggestion for the present-day location which evolved into the Baker County Historical Park. He enthusiastically and financially supported and served on the first Baker County-Wide Homecoming Committee. He served on the Board of County Commissioners for 12 years, and on the Baker County Development Commission for four years.

"Serving on the Development Commission is what compelled me to run for county commissioner because I saw so many things that we were missing in the county on enhancement money that the federal government was giving away," he said. "We had never got a federal grant until I got on the board and, when I did, I went after them. We built the Social Services Building down there and the Senior Citizen's Building and part of the jail. We built the Fire Department, Bertha Wolfe Health Department Building, and the Agriculture Building. We built that with federal money, we didn't have any tax money in that, we got it with grants. Baker County never had a grant until I went on the Board of County Commissioners.

"I got a federal grant to bring the water and sewer plant to the Development Commission property on 121 South before we got Westinghouse. Me and Inez Burnsed were at a meeting in the Mayor's office in Jacksonville and a guy from Washington was there. That was back when Carter was president and he was giving all this money away on water and sewers. I told him that our county wasn't in the water and sewer business, but the city was, and the Development Commission had property for it. I told him we could have it ready if we should land any kind of industry if we qualified. I asked him if we could get money for that and he said, 'yes,' and said he'd send me the papers.

"At the same time, I asked him about Glen St. Mary, and he said, 'yes,' and he'd send me the packet on that for them. I filled out our papers and sent them in. Then I went over and gave the papers he'd sent me for Glen to Mr. Phillip Taylor. I told him the money was available if he would fill the papers out and send them back in. I went back a week later and Mr. Taylor told me he and the commissioners had talked about it, and they had decided they didn't want to mess with the federal government. So they never did send in the papers and they could have got water and sewer for Glen free. But it's everybody to his own thing I guess, but if the government is going to give the money away and you're not going to get it for your county then you are going to be behind times.

"I got every nickel I could for the county. If it came out, I put in for it. Some I missed, but some I didn't. The whole time I served on the county commission, I never charged the county with a phone call, never charged them with a hotel bill or motel bill or any kind of travelling expense. I always paid for that myself wherever I went. I used to go over to the State Road Department yard in Lake City and the salvage yards in Starke and buy equipment for the county for practically nothing. I bought a 10-wheeler dump truck for the county over there for $1,800, with brand new tires on it, about a $60,000 truck. So a lot of money can be saved," he said.

Still up early each morning and to bed late at night, he continues to work tirelessly. In the last few years he has been taking more time off to travel with Faye in their motor home. Sometimes they are accompanied by close friends, and family. Together they trail across the country hunting, fishing, attending country shows and seeing the countryside. Since he no longer holds down positions of government he is free to relax and get-away more.

"My daddy always told me if I'd tend to my business, I'd stay about two weeks behind because I wouldn't have time to spend on other people's business, and he was right," said the resourceful man, who still believes in hard work and frugality.

His parents were a great influence on his life, and he still remembers back to those days when they were a big part of his daily life.

"Daddy and Mama didn't approve of moonshine, but back then when I did it, it was just a way of life, and they just accepted it. In the beginning, it was either do that or starve to death. After all, seventy-five cents an hour, or $28 a week, which ever way you want to look at it, didn't take care of the bills, even in 1950.

"Daddy never owned property. All he did was haul the gas from Jacksonville and sell it. He didn't have a piece of property or anything when I bought him out except for two trucks.

"I've often wished that daddy could come back and see what all has happened to the company that he started in 1931," said Dickie. "When I had that cancer operation 18 months ago, and I came home from the hospital, Faye moved one of our adjustable beds down here to the family room for me to sleep in. I woke up about 2 o'clock in the morning and daddy was standing right there," he said, pointing to near-by spot. "Now I'm just as wide awake as I was then, and we exchanged words. I said, 'What are you doing here?', and he said, 'I've come to see about you.' That's all he said, I remember his exact words."

Today, as he carries on the family traditions and business of his father, he knows that the price for legacy is worth more than all the wealth in the world. And he is passing it on to his son, and grandsons that follow, for generations to come.

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Carl Henry Rewis
Baker County, Florida

North, East, South and West -- Carl Rewis lived a nomadic life in every section of Baker County during his formative years. Like many other children born in Baker County around the turn of the century, his parents were poor, but honest and proud tenant farmers. His birth in Manning, south of Macclenny, on September 28, 1923, was the first arrival of 12 children born to Harry and Ella Wilkerson Rewis who had married on January 6 of that year.

By the time he was a month old, he was living south of Sanderson where he became ill. Dr. Edward Crockett, the county physician was summoned.

"I only have one shot with me, Mrs. Rewis," the doctor told Carl's young mother. "And I can't waste it on your child, he's not going to live, and I must give it to a child whose life I can save."

"if you don't give that shot to my child, I'll hit you over the head with the frying pan, doctor," Ella Rewis retorted.

Her threat was taken seriously, and Dr. Crockett gave the sick little boy a shot in the rump. Within two hours he rallied, and miraculously lived. "Had it not been for Dr. Crockett giving me that shot, I'd be dead," he said.

"We moved around a lot. And I think Mama had a baby every time we moved.

"We had an old Model T Ford and somehow daddy would pile it high with all our stuff. He'd take the headboards and make railings on top of the car, then he would stack our wood stove, moss mattresses and chairs, tables and stuff like that all on top of one another. We always had two or three cats, and three or four dogs, and when daddy would get everything loaded, he'd pile us younguns on top of all our belongings and start throwing the cats and dogs up on top, too. We would look like a freight train coming down the road piled up so high. They had dirt roads back then and daddy would have to ease in that rut 'cause the car would feel like it was going to turn over, it was so top heavy."

Besides Carl, the couple's other children were: Ida, Wash Daniel Verna Belle, Betty Jean, Nathaniel, Barbara, John and Lizzie (twins, born on Christmas day), Dolores, Ronald and Melvin.

"We didn't have plenty to eat, but we had enough," he said "We'd have home- made grits, smoked bacon, greens and potatoes. We were sure of that 'cause we raised it. Back then, there was a lot of field goats and you could get a great big one for fifty cents. Daddy would buy one and he'd castrate the Billy, they called it a ram, and bring him on home, hang him up by his heels, cut his head off, and let him bleed. Then he'd skin him, and throw the hide away so the meat wouldn't smell like a goat. And that was some real good eatin'.

"We made our pillows and mattresses from moss we pulled from the trees. We'd pick all the sticks out of it and Mama would boil it in a big wash pot to kill the red bugs. Then we'd hang it out on the line to dry before we used it.

"I remember my grandma had some geese and she had a feather barrel where she collected feathers she'd use once a year. Someone put an old gopher in the feather barrel once and forgot him. The next year when grandma took out the feathers the gopher was still alive, but when they let him out he went straight for some gourd vines and ate himself to death.

"We could talk mama out of whipping us, but if daddy told you he was going to, he did it. We knew we better not tell daddy a lie because he would put the razor strap on your butt. I used to think he whipped me too much, but now that I'm grown, I can see where I needed the whipping. Daddy didn't believe in telling a lie, or picking up anything that didn't belong to you, and he taught us that.

"Daddy cut logs, worked in pulp wood, dug stumps, farmed, and done just about any thing he could do to find work back then. There just wasn't many jobs around. When I got big enough, about ten years old, me and him sawed pulp wood and that's the reason I didn't get to go to school. And to this day, I've always said if I was to do something bad enough that I'd have to be sent to Raiford and they gave me a job where I'd have to use a cross-cut saw, then they could put me in the electric chair because I wouldn't do it again."

As time progressed, his father, Harry, took a job in Jacksonville at the shipyards. At the age of 42 he was able to save up $700 and purchase 25 acres of prime land in north Macclenny where he lived until he died in 1980, a year following his wife's death. About the same time, seventeen-year-old Carl obtained employment at a chicken farm at Brandy Branch for $12 a week.

"Mama always had 50-100 chickens around and I loved to eat the raw eggs. I've eat a truck load of 'em. I remember she put a strap on me one time for eating the eggs and putting the hull back into the nest. She didn't care for me eating the eggs, but she'd say, 'Throw the hull.' I'd just punch me a little hole in it and suck the egg right out of the shell. But after I went to work at that chicken farm and some of the eggs would bust and flies and knats were all over the nest, I ain't never liked an egg since. I hardly ever eat one now."

When Carl was drafted in the military, he reported to Camp Blanding. They turned him down for military service because his right eye had a blind spot. He returned the second time, and was rejected again. While waiting on a bus to return home, a navy recruiter appeared and asked him if the army had turned him down. "Yes, sir, they did", he said. "Well, how would you like to be in the Navy?" "Well, I'd like it," he said. So the naval recruiting officer took him back through the examination line, but when they approached the eye examination station, the officer pulled him out of line and took him directly to a section where he was accepted.

"The first letter I ever wrote anybody was when I was in th Navy. I could read a little bit, and I knowed my name when I seen it but that was about all. Mama wrote my company commander complaining that I hadn't written home, so he called me in. He told me if I didn't have my mama a letter off in the mail in a couple hours, he would give me KP duty and make me wash dishes. So a friend I'd met showed me how to start it and finish it.

"Two months later, mama wrote another letter and told them they needed to check my eyes. They did, and gave me a discharge."

Out of the Navy, he moved to Mulberry and worked on the railroad with his uncle for a year. Then he moved back to Macclenny.

Without car, money, or employment, he moved back in with his parents. Then, two big changes came into his life. First, he married Margaret Johnson, and second, he accepted a job with Wallace Dupree making and hauling moonshine.

"My daddy had made a little moonshine whiskey after he quit drinking it," Carl said. "He made it in a little branch near the house about a year or two. But I didn't get involved until I got out of the Navy. It was quick money."

Quick money, however, meant only getting paid for the necessities he needed for his family.

"Wallace never gave me a salary, or paid me a rate for hauling or making it. When I needed money for groceries, clothes, or insurance, I'd go to him and tell him, and he'd give me twenty-five dollars or whatever I needed," he said.

As the years passed, Carl and Margaret had five children David, Carla, Cathy, Harvey and Patty.

"My children never got involved in the whiskey business. They knew what I was doing, but not to what extent. I'd do it after they went to bed and was done by the time they got up in the morning."

There are many stories of revenuers, raids, hauls, and 'stilling,' and he's willing to talk about a few of them. "I had to run a couple of times," he said, talking about the revenuers.

"They liked to have got a hold of me when I set me up an operation at Steel Bridge on the Florida side, once. Me and L.E. Wilkinson -- we called him Swampy -- were there making whiskey and he was pumping water and sweetenin' it up. He had already done the first charge and I told him I had a feeling the revenuers were coming that day. He said, 'Oh, you worry about them revenuers too much,' but I loaded what we'd made and put it in the boat. There was a lake not far so I set it out near there in a palmetto patch and went back to the still. Before I knew it, this revenuer had his hand on my arm. I run and jumped in the river right behind Swampy. He lost his britches when he jumped in. I had on a pair of khaki pants and a khaki shirt so I couldn't swim as fast as Swampy. I heard the revenuers shoot the lock off the boat and they came looking for us, riding up and down the river, but I managed to hide in the bushes and finally got away. Later on, I went back and got the whiskey I'd hid.

"I left Macclenny one night with a full load of about 275 jugs of whiskey and, just this side of Phoenix City, Alabama, the law jumped me and tried to stop me. I tried to turn the truck over, thought maybe it would catch on fire and burn the evidence, but it didn't, so I just jumped out and run. There were three or four officers and four dogs after me. I made a circle and went through a peanut field, then into a corn field and finally found this big drainage ditch.

"I started walking it thinking if I could find a pipe to crawl in I could stop up the end and keep the dogs out. I saw one man on one bank and another man on the other bank and they started shooting at me. I bent over to make them think they'd hit me and they quit shooting. I kept running in the ditch and it kept getting deeper and deeper and direckly I got to noticing that the bank was way up there. I thought, 'I got to get out of this place,' but I could still hear them dogs a comin'.

"I found a tree that had growed upside of the ditch so I jumped up on a low branch and cooned that thing up to the bank. There was deep underbrush and I didn't take time to think about a snake being in there, I just started crawling. By this time it was dark and you couldn't even see your hand before your face. I was trying to feel my way, didn't have no idea where I was, and the swamp started gettin' real thick. Direckly, I was in water and it got deeper and deeper, I had to start swimming and I swam until I gave out. Then I lay flat of my back and rested, then I swam some more. It was a lake and I don't know how big it was, or how many gators it had because it was so dark. I couldn't see my hand before my face. I finally decided to try and stand up to see how deep it was, and discovered I could barely touch bottom, so I started walking then to the shore. Direckly, I came to a big old tree, I could only feel it, I couldn't see it. It had low branches and limbs on it, so I clumb up and got up as high as I could go. I'd hang on to the limb and try to sleep, cold and wet, and I'd near 'bout fall out. I was sitting where I could hold on, but I'd hear all kinds of things out there making sounds. It'd be such things like coons and opossums but it would sound like an elephant had stepped on something, it would just go 'pop pop."

"Near morning, I could hear these big diesels and I knew they had to be going down a road somewhere nearby. As soon as daylight come, I crawled down out of the tree and went toward that racket and found the road. I got me a lightered knot and put it out on the edge of the highway so Wallace could find my sign because I knew they'd be looking for me. Then I hid on a high bank to wait for him.

"At 11 a.m., he and Tuffy (Junior Crockett) came riding by in a 1940 Mercury and saw it. When they stopped, I slid down that embankment so fast I almost broke my leg. The Mercury belonged to the man I was delivering the whiskey to, so we had to go back for Wallace's car. I told them if the law was to jump us, to slow up and let me out 'cause I've run all this far and I don't want to get caught now. They said, 'No, and we don't want you to get caught because it would be five years and a ten thousand dollar fine for anyone caught with two or more gallons, and you was hauling more than that.' So, after we got Wallace's car, I lay down on the back seat all the way back to Macclenny. I told Wallace that I was quittin'. But I didn't because he talked me into it again.

"One time, I was over around Lake City with a truck loaded with about 50 five- gallon jugs. I knew they had sent two men over there, one of them a football player from some college who had gone to work for the revenue department. I'd heard that he said, 'I'll catch them blankedy blank people from up there around Baker County that's been out running all them revenues.' I had told somebody I'd like to take him out somewhere and see if I could out-run 'em, you know. Well, it was about eight o'clock in the morning when he spotted me and pulled up beside me in his car, so I had my chance. I just slid over and jumped out of the truck and started running down the road with him after me. I couldn't get far enough ahead of him like I wanted to, so I just turned and went out through the woods. I got to jumping them palmetto patches and gallberry patches. I had on a pair of them slip on shoes and they slung off. I found one and stuck it in my pocket, but lost the other one. Well, when he couldn't keep up with me, it made him mad and he started shootin'. The bark flew off and hit me on the face, it was that close, but I got away.

"After awhile, I heard an airplane coming. They could spot a piss-ant crawling down there, and they could easily see me running, so I said, 'I got to do something.' So, when they passed over me, I crawled up in a palmetto patch and when he came back he didn't see me. He went on a little further and I'd run to another palmetto patch. I just kept doing that until I got fer enough they didn't know where I was at. I finally got all the way back to Olustee, where they had a sawmill and _some men were working. I saw a man gassin' up his car and when he went in to pay for the gas, I got in his car. When he came back out he said, 'I was just fixing to go look for you,' and I said, 'Well, you found me, now carry me home.' They had sent Shep Johns to get me.

"The next day there was a picture of that ball player revenuer holding up my one shoe and said they were wondering who the man was who lost it.

"I was doing this and scarcely making a living. I didn't even get paid for a load. I was all the time cutting Wallace's grass and doing other jobs and he'd just give me what I needed, but right there at the end, when I was going to quit, he started paying me when I took a load .

For several years Carl said he tended a large underground still for Wallace Dupree in north Macclenny.

"Wallace bought a house out north of town and built a big underground still inside the chicken yard. I moved in the house and made whiskey for him there nearly three years. The still was just a big old hole, probably about 20x3O feet, with concrete block sides and a concrete floor. There was big timbers in there to hold it up. Then, after we put the timbers on it, we put tar paper over it, an tarred it, and then we put dirt on top of that. On the northeast corner was the entrance where there were stairs leading down into the ground. To get in it we put a big piece of aluminum on the ground and set a biddies coop over it. When we wanted to go down into the still, we just set the biddies coop aside and moved back the aluminum to get down the stairs. I planted me some tater vines in the chicken yard, but they didn't make any taters. After we worked the still all night, I'd scatter some corn around and them chickens would come off the roost and scratch all around in and out of those tater vines, so there wouldn't be any footprints, and then they'd get right back on the roost."

Carl said he had a radio inside the underground still, but never had a television, as was rumored.

"We had electric lights, water pump and a good drainage system in it. I could run two charges a night and get out before daylight. I had what they called a hog's head barrel to put the whiskey in. It must have held 100-200 gallons."

When a neighbor, Harley Thrift, was raided by the beverage agents in his near- by underground still, Carl said Wallace shut down his still.

"They (revenuers) knew it was there. Two of 'em came up there one day and one of 'em said, 'Well, you've been reported and we know you got a hole back there where you are making whiskey,' and I said, 'I got a WHAT? And he said, 'A hole behind your house, and we want to look at it.' And I said, 'Well, me and you will just walk back there and I'll let you look,' and he said, 'Well, I can't go back there with just me and you,' and I said, "Well, you'll have to, if you go back there,' and he said, 'Well, I got a man in my car, we can trust,' and I said, 'You may trust him, but I don't because I don't even trust you, and if you can't go back there with just me, then we won't go.' So he said, 'Well, I'll just have to go and get a warrant.' And I told him to 'Go ahead but they never came back.

"Later, I found traces where they had already walked all back there and couldn't find anything. We had it hid pretty good. I had a chimney built where the still was and it was level with the top of the dirt. I put a chicken house over it, and a roost.

"The night they raided Harley's still, I was supposed to have taken him twelve bags of sugar. Harley had a young son who was present when the raid took place. He pretended he was sleepy and was going to his room to sleep, but instead of sleeping, he jumped out the window and ran to his uncle James Thrift's house. James had a phone so he called Wallace to tell him and then came on down to my house to tell me because I didn't have a phone. Of course, we were glad we never delivered the sugar to them that night because, if we had, we would have been caught, too.

"We never did 'still' there anymore. We shut down because we knew that they knew the still was there. We moved the equipment somewhere else."

Revenuers began to show up everywhere and finally Carl said he told Wallace Dupree and Junior Crockett he was going to have to do something to disguise himself to keep from being recognized.

"Well, why don't you dye your hair and curl it?" Dupree suggested.

"Yeah, that sounds good. Do it and I'll pay for it," said Crockett.

"I forgot about that conversation," said Carl. "But one night Wallace came up to the house and he said, 'Come on Carl, we got to go somewhere.' So I got in the car and he drove me to Bernice Green's beauty shop. Junior was there. She sat me in the chair and Junior was just a laughing while she kinked me up and died my hair black. I think Junior thought it was going to be about $10 or something like that, but when he asked her how much, she said, 'That will be $35.' Well, Junior didn't laugh anymore after that."

Carl said moonshining was getting harder and ofttimes his legs would shake so bad he couldn't control them when the law enforcement came too close for comfort during his moonshine operations.

"My wife begged me to quit, and finally I did. I went to work for the Chevrolet place as a mechanic," he said.

"Just before I quit altogether, I tried to have a little still near the house to make a little extra money on the side. I set up six barrels, but never got to run it. I had to tote all the stuff across the woods about a mile on my back. I didn't figure anyone would ever find it there. I had it sweetened and was going down there one morning to check on it and noticed some tracks. That afternoon after work, I returned and found some more tracks. The same thing the next day, so I said, 'Well, I'll just forget it.'

"Later, Sheriff Ed Yarbrough borrowed his brother's truck an loaded the bedding up and took the beer and fed it to his hogs. I never messed with it after that," he said.

Carl worked as a mechanic for the Chevrolet place for 16 years He was making $95 a week before deductions when he quit and went to work for the county where he stayed for the next 18 years.

His first wife left him and the couple divorced. For the next few years, his mother and his sisters helped him look after the children. His second marriage was to Carolyn Boone, and they had a child, Terry. That marriage ended in divorce too.

I had to work hard for my next wife, but it was worth it," he said. "I had seen her practically all of my life, but she was a lot younger than me. I had to wait several years before I could even get her to go out with me because she was only 14 years old when I first asked her out."

The love of his life was Beulah Mae, pretty daughter of Thomas Burton and Rosie Mae Rhoden Crews. Carl's sisters -- Dolores and Verna Belle had married Beulah's brothers.

"It took me a long time to get her to go out with me, but one day I was going to my mother's house to get her to cook some quails Ralph Sands had given me, and she went," he said.

"Yeah, but I had my niece with me," she reminded him. "When he asked to take me to a movie later, I told him I'd go if my niece could go, too," she said. "He told me he didn't care who went if I'd just go."

The couple said they had always liked each other. They married in 1963, at the home of her mother, when he was 40 and she was 19. Their first child, a daughter Karen, was born nine years later. They also have a son, Tom.

The years seem long past, and some memories are even fading of the by-gone days of the moonshine era. Today, he'd rather reflect on stories his grandmother used to tell him about an era he never knew, like when his great-grand mother lived in an old log house with a clay floor.

"She said that one night something started digging outside the cabin and pretty soon a big hairy arm was all the way inside clawing away making the hole bigger. Great-grandma got the ax an chopped the hand off and she could hear him hollering as he ran off in the woods. They found out later it was a bear," he said.

Then there was another about a panther. "The panthers got on top of my great- grandma's house and they were trying to come down the clay chimney," he said. "After the family burned up their wood,' they burned their chairs and furniture all night to keep a fire going so the panthers couldn't get down the fireplace and into the house. They say them panthers would eat a woman's breast off if they got to one."

"I'm going to tell you something, and it's the truth. All the money you could stack in 40 acres, a hundred feet high, wouldn't pay me to go back and do what I done in moonshine," he says with conviction. "I wouldn't ... no way! I want to sleep at night when I lay down, and at that time you just couldn't, you just stayed under pressure all the time."

Today, the couple, with their teen-age son Tom, spends their happiest moments at home where they have always lived at the corner of Bob Kirkland and Louder Roads. Carl has a 'piddling shop' where he is constantly doing something. When they aren't there or visiting family, they are at the Primitive Baptist Church where their favorite pastor, the Reverend David Crawford, preaches.

"Now I really like that," Carl said with a smile on his face, I haven't ever heard anyone else preach that pleases me like Brother David.

"But about them moonshine stories, I'd just as soon forget them, and talk about them exciting stories my grandma use to tell about, like the panthers and the bears..!"

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The Sigers Saga

The afternoon sun casts a shadow over Ralph Sigers' lovely brick home as a gentle February breeze nips the air. Robust and tanned, his sparkling blue eyes have that glimmer of mischief to them. It's easy to see he is a man who loves to share a good laugh, and good memories. His first cousin, Willard Thrift, often takes time from his 25,000-plus chicken farm to walk across Highway 121 north to visit with his cousin. Remembering events from their past often creates a sensational phenomenon, stirring electrifying, thrilling, and even astonishing stories that some might consider yarns or tales. It's here though, that the saga of the Sigers' begins and ends, and the epic history created has left a profound impact upon the annals of Baker County.

For many years, more than a mile of a lone unpaved stretch of road 121 north belonged to the Sigers and related families. They had their own grocery store, farms, aircraft, landing field, and uniquely-crafted cars. Their scope of living embodied cleverly built underground moonshine stills as well as those concealed deep in dense underbrush along the banks of the St. Mary's River and other creeks and branches along the swampy streams in north Baker County.

The Sigers brothers, Ralph, Elzy, and Marvin, were intelligent men despite limited educations. They possessed brilliant, ingenious, an inventive minds, allowing them to create things that astounded people around them. Their ideas for the unique were limitless. They even built their own airplanes, and did so in their staked-out domain north of town.

Their father, John Sigers, ambled into Baker County from Georgia after his first wife died in childbirth. He eventually married Serena, daughter of Baker County pioneers James (Jim), and Nancy Raulerson Thrift.

"When daddy first came down here from Georgia he made some of the first small copper stills, because back then moonshine was on a small-scale operation," said Ralph. " They were usually the two- or four-barrel types set out and used down by the creek."

"Our parents were share-croppers when we grew up, and we moved around a lot," he said, "and we didn't get much schooling."

"At one time, when daddy worked for a logging company, we lived in one of the box cars. When we first moved there, we moved into a corn crib with a dirt floor, and I remember that the hogs roaming the woods would come inside there. We thought we would be better off living in a box car, but found out we had to share it with another family. There was no running water, only a pitcher pump not too far away from the car. The box car was furnished with a wood-burning stove. Back then you felt lucky to just have a roof over your head. I never owned a pair of shoes until I was in my teens. I remember my mother used to make our shoes out of old rubber inner-tubes. She made our shirts out of feed sacks that people who had chickens would give us.

"I remember once daddy brought home an old dirty, greasy tarpaulin and mama put it in the wash pot with what they called ole lye soap back in them days. She boiled it, and beat it, and did everything she could do to get it white so she could make us some overalls from it. She could make most anything with her pedal sewing machine. We were proud of those clothes.

"There was a little log shelter out in the woods when we were growing up that was used for a Sunday School. It wasn't far from where I live now. We felt proud when we'd get on our feed sack shirts and our overalls, and go to Sunday School. We thought those were beautiful shirts out of them sacks and we were proud to have them.

"The first store-bought clothes I remember having was when we were living in an old log tenant house, plowing for fifty cents a day. We saved up enough money so that my mother ordered the first store-bought clothes I can ever remember having. She got them most likely from the Sears catalog because there was always one around as far back as I can remember.

"Another thing we ordered with the money we made plowing was a .22 rifle and a flashlight. I remember we paid $4.10 with postage included for the rifle, and the flashlight, I believe, was fifty nine cents for it and batteries. Then we could go out in the fields at night and kill rabbits for our meals. We killed squirrels in the daytime. Sweet potato and opossum was a luxury to us back in them days, and I've even killed and eaten skunks. We'd try most anything. We ate gator tails. Now today, they are considered a luxury. We were always looking for something to eat. It was rough back in them times; still, I don't remember thinking of it as hard times. It wouldn't hurt people today to go back to those days, in fact I wouldn't mind it, really.

"We used to plow in the 1930's from sun-up to sun-down for fifty cents a day and be glad to get it."

He can't remember when his parents started making a little moonshine, but eventually making it on the side supplemented his family's meager income derived from the dawn-to-dark, back-breaking, strenuous job of tenant farming. It wasn't a big system; in fact Sigers said, the family once even set their shine operation up in a rented two-story frame house on the outskirts of west Macclenny.

"Mama and daddy set up a copper still upstairs in the house," said Ralph.

"I remember it," said Willard. "I'd spend the night with you and I remember when the train would pass through at night and shake the whole house. They pumped water for it from an old pitcher."

"I remember when they made it out in the corn field, too," said Willard. "I'd come in from school and go out there and watch them," he said. "They'd tote their water from the old hand pump at the house to the field and she'd maybe make one or two five-gallon jugs from it."

The two men have always lived a "stone's throw" from each other. Willard's father, Londa, and Ralph's mother, Serena, were brother and sister.

"We could tell you tales from now to dark," said Willard.

The two men have more than just being related in common. Both were shrewd moonshiners, who operated their affairs on adjoining land.

"Other than when my brother Elzy served in the Army, he made moonshine most all of his life," said Ralph. "Marvin didn't do too much of it."

"After I dropped out of grade school, I took a few correspondence courses for radio repairs and such, and I opened a little shop in Macclenny and operated it until I went into the Air Force in 1942. After I served in the Pacific and was discharged in 1945, I did some moonshining, while I worked for the government in electronics at the Jacksonville Naval Air Station. I stayed with them for about 15 years.

"During that time, I dabbled on a small scale in moonshine at night. I never did get real big in it on an individual basis, because it took a lot of money and you risked a lot," said Ralph, who was married in 1942 to Suzie Crews, daughter of Lewis and Ethel Crews of Macclenny.

"I enrolled in school in Gainesville and learned how to build airplanes," said Ralph "I took flight training, and worked in the engine shop. I remember how hot that engine shop was, and during my lunch break I'd usually run out and take an airplane and go up real high where it was cold. No matter how hot it is on the ground, it is cold up there. I wound up with pneumonia doing that and have never overed it to this day," he said.

The Sigers' brothers common interest was flying and mechanical operations. After Elzy served in the Pacific theater during World war II as a paratrooper, he also obtained his flying license. But his full-time occupation was moonshine.

"I hired other people to work for me while I was working at NAS," said Ralph. "One day, when I came in from work, I told the crew working for me to go check one of the stills to see if it was ready to run that night. They told me they had seen signs that the revenuers had been around there, but I thought they'd been mistaken because I'd been down there the day before and didn't see anything. I went down there and found the tracks, but I decided I'd go on to the still anyway which was at the Blue Hole. I had on my work clothes, just like I'd come from work, and as I was just starting to walk out on this log to get across to the still, I saw three of the revenuers coming out to cross the log meeting me.

"Instead of running I just went straight to them, and they said, 'What are you doing down here?' and I said, 'I'm walking this river looking for my boat somebody stole.' So they said, 'Well, there's one right down there at your still,' and I said, 'No, there ain't nary one at my still because I don't even own a still.' They said, 'Yes, you do, we know it's your still and you're coming to see about it.' They told me to walk out on the sandbar. I did and they said, 'Sit down,' and they looked at my shoes trying to match up my shoe tracks with the men who had been working for me at the still. When they couldn't do it, they said, 'We know you just came from the NAS, and if you don't quit this bootlegging, we're going to get your job, and we're going to throw you in jail.' And I said, 'I ain't bootlegging, I'm down here hunting my boat; I want to go fishing.' So they continued to talk to me, threatened me, and asked me a thousand questions. I said if I'd known there was a still here, do you think I would come up here and talk to you about it? I'd have been going another way, or outrun you.' I told them they were just badly mistaken. Finally, they said, 'We're going to give you one more chance.' They asked me where my car was, so I took them there and they checked it over real good. Then they asked me to drive them to where their car was, and I did. They tore up the still.

"There were lots of stills up and down the river at the time. We made our own boats, welding them together. If it rained and the water started rising, someone would come by yelling, 'The river is rising', and no matter when it was, even late in the night, we'd go, by boat down the river and move the stills up on higher ground," he said.

After 15 years with NAS, he quit, and went into the moonshine business full-time with his brother, Elzy. With a large tractor and a scoop, the brothers dug deep into the ground at night and began operating an elaborate underground still located in an open field. It was entered by a concealed door covered with grass.

"We had kerosene burners at first, and it would make you sick down there because of poor ventilation, so we had to change over to gas. We used the big old groundhog stills under ground. In one, we had two, forty-barrel operations and some drums. It took a piece of metal 8 feet long to make a 30-barrel groundhog and the 10 foot sheets made a 40- barrel. We'd buy a semi load of sugar, which usually was about 240 sacks, to sweeten them things up. We'd put sixty 100-pound bags of sugar in each one, which would make at least 150 five-gallon jugs of whiskey."

Meanwhile, across the road, Harley Thrift, Willard's uncle was digging into the ground at night to construct him an underground still. Ironically, the Sigers were not aware of Harley's activity. The brothers had built three underground stills and had started working on the fourth when the revenuers raided Harley's one night, about a year after it had been built.

"We were working in ours at the time they raided Harley," said Ralph. "We shut down as quick as we could."

Harley Thrift was arrested and his underground still destroyed with dynamite. The blast shook the countryside for miles. While those activities were going on, Willard and his Uncle Elzy were hid out in the field listening, and Ralph was looking on.

"That same night me and Wallace Dupree had a truck loaded with 220 cases of whiskey parked behind my house across the road. As soon as we thought it was safe, we got it out from behind my house and saved it from being destroyed," he said.

All three of the Sigers' financially lucrative still operations were a half-mile apart. They had sold one, with a house on the property, to Dupree, a bootlegger from Macclenny who was their sugar supplier.

"We closed all of ours down and I think Wallace covered his up a lot later after he got the equipment out. We just abandoned the one we'd started. The law kept watching it, so we just never started it up again."

During the heyday of the underground still, when production was at its peak, the Siger brothers did a first for Baker Countians dealing in whiskey. They began to haul their product in an airplane.

"Sometimes, Elzy would circle around in the plane and look for revenuers. They finally caught on to Elzy hauling moonshine in the plane and planned to catch him," said Ralph. "What he'd usually do is land somewhere pre-arranged and the man he was selling to would have him five gallons of gas waiting to refuel. While they were unloading, the man would hand him the can of gas to refuel. Well, one time, the revenuers were waiting for him when he landed. Elzy saw them, so he just jumped back in the plane and took off before they could get to him. He stopped somewhere else to refuel.

"Actually that plane, which was a J3 Piper Cub, wouldn't carry much whiskey. It would only haul about four five-gallon jugs.

"One of our neighbors had a nice strip of land and he kept wanting us to land there which was in a cow pasture, so one day Elzy decided he'd do it. Our neighbor got all the cows penned up but one that was standing far off. Well, just as Elzy came in that cow ran across the pasture and Elzy landed right on the cow's back, and that plane just flipped over on its nose and tore up. Elzy wasn't hurt, and it didn't kill the cow, but the cow always walked around crooked after that, she never did straighten up, her back was all tore up."

The brothers rebuilt the plane.

The plane was not the only first ingenious plan for haulin whiskey that the Sigers brothers instigated. "Elzy built seats in our car out of copper tanks, then reupholstered it to look like regular seats. We poured moonshine into the tanks which would hold about 10 to 15 five-gallon jugs. He put a spigot on the bottom to drain it out when we delivered it. Elzy built tanks from the seats and back rest.

"We knew one night they were going to stop us, and as soon as they did Elzy jumped out and said, 'Oh, I know who you are, and I know you want to look in my trunk, so I might as well let you. So he opened up the trunk and they looked in there and said, 'Okay, you can go ahead.' When they first pulled up that night, they asked us if we had any moonshine in the car, and I told them, 'No, but I was wishing I had some until you come along.'

"They never did find the liquor when we hauled it in that car," he laughed.

"We started breaking it down from five-gallon jugs to pints and quarts," said Willard. "I hauled it up to Phoenix, Alabama, in trucks made with false bodies. The tailgate was fixed so you could see up in the body and the truck looked empty, but in the second story was all this whiskey. We tried everything we could to outsmart the law," he said.

"Me and daddy had an old groundhog-type still in our truck and we'd park it right out there in the barn. If it got to smelling too bad, we'd have to move it, but when it got ready, we'd go down to the pond to get to the water to run it. It would usually take three or four days to make it," he said.

"Yeah, we had some mounted on trucks too," said Ralph. "We used gas burners on 'em."

"The revenuers were usually nice," said Ralph. "One day, I remember they were down at my parents little store and a bunch of us were all down there having a cold drink and crackers. When they finished drinking their drink, one said, 'Well, we're going on down the road and run the Barton boys the rest of the afternoon."'

Willard agreed. "One night, there was this guy at a checking station up there at the Georgia-Florida state line, and he asked me and Glen Johnson one night, 'When are you ever gong to haul anything?' We had a load of whiskey then, and they looked in the back, but didn't see it."

"Yeah," said Ralph. "They'd take off in the lowest gear, and anybody in the world should have known it was a loaded truck.

"They stopped me at a driver's license check one night just before Christmas up in Georgia," said Willard. " I had a Nabisco Cracker truck full of concealed moonshine on my way to Phoenix City, Alabama. I had a Georgia tag, and a Florida driver's license, and I showed it to the road patrol. He said, 'Well, where do you live?' and I said, 'Valdosta.' He said, 'Well, where are you going?', and I said, 'Atlanta,'. He said, 'Well, how come you got a Florida driver's license?' And I told him I'd just moved to Georgia. He said, 'I ain't going to give you very long to get you some Georgia driver's license,' and I told him, "Well, thank you, sir.' I told him I was empty, going to Atlanta to get a load of crackers.'

"Just as I drove off and got to the top of the hill, I saw the law coming with red lights blinking. I said to myself, 'Oh, well, they figured it out, and they're coming to get me,' but they just drove right on past me.

There were endless stories of close calls.

"They arrested Glen Johnson one night for a traffic infraction and impounded his truck at the jail. It was full of concealed whiskey. They let him go the next morning, with his truck. It had been parked loaded at the jail all night."

Johnson was always in much demand to haul moonshine by the moonshiners, and reputed to be one of the most reliable and competent drivers around.

"I had a still one time right about where Joey Thrift has his old sawmill, back there in that old bay," said Ralph, blue eyes twinkling. "One afternoon, we were down there running the still and my worker was talking about the revenuers and he said, 'Oh, if they were to run in here on me right now I'd take this knife, and I'd do this, and I'd do that and the other.' Within about ten minutes they had him around the neck. I was right there but I ran just as hard as I could to get away. I went by one federal man named Spanks just a- flying, and he said 'Stop, you son of a so and so,' and he was shootin' right at my feet, and me with boots on.

"I ran into the bay and my boots got all full of water and I couldn't run, so when I got far enough ahead of him, I pulled my boots off and got out on the other side of the bay where there was a man chipping pine trees. I said, 'if anyone comes by here looking for me, tell them I went that-a-way, and I ran and ran so hard that I bled from my lungs. They are still messed up to this day. I finally got back and holed up in that old bay and went up under all that under- brush where there were mosquitoes and moccasins and everything in else. I crawled around in there and finally got up on a little stump and the bushes were so thick on the ground they couldn't see me, but one time they were so close I could have reached out and got a-hold of his boot.

"When it got dark I finally got away from them people. I found out later there were at least 25 of the revenuers and that's why I saw one every which way I turned. I never went back to get my boots.

"One time, we had a big operation going on up in Georgia. We put the still up on the sheriff's property and his brother lived in the house. The sheriff always kept us informed as to danger. Somehow though, the revenuers got wind of the operation, and by-passed the sheriff to raid. Me and Elzy went up there one day and as we drove by, we could just sense something wasn't right, so we didn't stop. We went on up to see the sheriff and found out that the revenuers had already been to the sheriff's office with his brother under arrest. If we had gone earlier they probably would have arrested us, too.

"Things were beginning to get tough for us. I'll tell you why we finally quit," said Ralph seriously. "It got to the point that we were paying everybody off and it took our profit. Everybody was wanting a cut of the money. Finally, we were told we could not be guaranteed protection anymore.

"Do you have any regrets?" I asked.

Willard is quick to answer. -- "No, I don't." he said. I can remember how embarrassed I was going to school, or into Macclenny, always wearing overalls. When I got older I'd wear my shirt hanging out so people wouldn't know I had on overalls instead of jeans. I didn't know you could tell the difference back then, and I don't reckon they could, but it don't matter now. I was about in my senior year when I got started in moonshine for myself, but I remember how proud I would be when I was able to go into Mr. Hodges clothing store in Macclenny and buy me some clothes. It was such a thrill for me to go in and buy a pair of jeans. I didn't ever buy overalls, I'd had enough of them, but now I wouldn't mind to wear them. I'd go in there and I'd feel like I was a big shot or something. Mr. Hodges knew time I walked in I was going to buy some clothes. That's where people like Wallace Dupree bought a bunch of their clothes and it made me feel good to be able to do it, too.

"And I can remember having three or four hundred dollars in my pocket and I actually thought I'd never need any more money in my life. I hauled for Wallace Dupree and he paid me $50 a haul," said Willard.

"We didn't make piles of money because it took a lot, especially when they'd tear up your still, but we got by," explained Ralph. "I built my first house for $7,000, paying for it as I went along. I sold that house eventually and added $5,000 to it and built this house where I live now."

The Sigers brothers quit making moonshine about 1960. They worked hard at other jobs and through the years they pursued their infatuation with airplanes as a hobby. They bought kits and built their own.

"Daddy had an inventive mind, and I think one reason he was so involved in the things he did was to escape reality," said Beverly Hall, Elzy's daughter. "Daddy didn't have any education to speak of, but he was very smart. Had he been able to get an education he may have been head of a big corporation or something because he wag very resourceful. His parents were illiterate, too, and instead of daddy being able to think about an education or what he wanted to do in life, he was having to think about planting a garden, or butchering a hog because farming was a year responsibility. His parents were not in the best of health, and in those days children took care of their sick or ailing parents, physically and financially. So daddy used his talents to create and invent with what he had to work with and escaped into his own world which became his only way of life."

On March 8, 1984, Ralph watched Elzy take up their new creation, an Ultra-Light, wood-constructed plane for testing. With 1,000 air flying hours to his credit, Elzy was excited about the 213-pound craft that was powered by a 20-horsepower engine. The plane was the first of five kits from the manufacturer that the brothers planned to build. It was about 2 p.m. when 61-year-old Elzy was flying over wooded area near the Ode Yarbrough Road and CR23-A (Yarbrough Road intersection) when suddenly, and without warning, the craft came straight down, throttle wide open, and crashed nose first into the tops of several large pine trees. His beloved brother was dead.

The fatal craft that had been on its maiden flight was inspected by an official of the National Transportation Safety Board, and he reportedly could find nothing apparently wrong with it that might have caused the crash. Witnesses said that the craft did not appear to be experiencing engine problems, and they heard it operating until the craft slammed into the tops of several large pine trees.

Ralph thinks Elzy had a heart attack, or passed out, because witnesses said he was slumped over the controls which would have caused the ultra-light to go into a dive at full throttle.

Elzy's daughter, Beverly of north Macclenny, thinks not. "The autopsy said differently," she said.

Regardless, she feels her daddy died doing something he loved. "Flying made him happier than anything else," she said. "He didn't want me to get married when I did. He wanted me to get my own flying license or become an airline stewardess. He loved flying and he thought everyone else ought to.

"Daddy never knew anything else but moonshine, when I was growing up. His brothers had other jobs, but that's all that daddy did. Uncle Ralph was more of the mechanical mind, and Uncle Marvin was good at radios and electronics. Daddy didn't have the book knowledge and education that they did.

"He was good as far as being a daddy. He never spanked us, he was very quiet and gentle and kind, and he would give anybody his shirt off his back. I think that's why daddy never had anything, he gave it away.

"I was at least seven or eight years old when I realized daddy was gone a lot, especially at night. Sometimes he'd take us fishing down at the river and he'd usually walk off for a while. We knew he was doing something at his still.

"When we were asked our daddy's occupation at school, or had to fill out any papers, I'd always put farmer.

"Daddy took me lots of places with him, such as gator hunting. I remember shining the lights at night in the river looking for the gator's eyes to shine. That was illegal, too, but it was exciting. Daddy sold the gator hides. The reason he said he did it was to provide for us all the things he always had to do without.

"I remember we had an old screened-in back porch where he had stacks of sugar and wheat brand and stuff like that. Grandma and Grandpa Sigers had that old general country store up there on the road and that's where daddy would get his supplies. Except for school, we didn't go to Macclenny but about once a month, and I didn't bring many friends home with me from school. I remember having a birthday party once when I was about twelve, and I was embarrassed having all that stuff stacked up there on our porch. I felt everyone knew what it was for, but I feel sure most of them didn't even know. I was ashamed, and I wanted daddy to move it because we were having cake and ice cream back there, but he wouldn't. I knew moonshine was wrong, but it was the only kind of life we'd ever known.

"When daddy got caught at his still and had to go to prison, we'd go visit him, and he would cry. It liked to have killed him. That's when he started changing and getting closer to the Lord. When he got out and started driving a truck, he had a bad wreck and had to have a blood clot on his brain removed. That's when he quit altogether."

Eventually, Elzy Sigers became associate pastor of Mount Zion Congregational Methodist Church, located on 121 North near his home. His last days were peaceful, joyful, and happy serving the Lord and his fellow man. He and his brother, Ralph, became chicken farmers. Like the hobby of flying he so loved, his memory soars upward for his family. After all, they say, it is that which is found inside a man that counts. Their moonshine days lay buried as deep in the ground as the under-ground stills where they once toiled through the night.

And though the two remaining brothers have a new hobby, searching over land and sea with Hi-Tech, sophisticated, expensive metal detectors, they aren't looking for any kind of treasure in particular. And they certainly aren't keen about digging up their past. Instead, their treasure is focused on the future.

For many years, Ralph and his wife of 52 years, Suzie, have been active in the North Macclenny Christian Fellowship Church. In fact, he helped to construct it. The friends they have cultivated there are priceless to them. They are surrounded by children and grandchildren living nearby, and occasionally they take their motor home through the countryside so Ralph can get in some fishing and treasure hunting.

Still, there are moments when he reflects, and remembers Elzy and the unique lifestyle they shared that will never pass this way in Baker County again. It is a legacy frozen in time, dissolved only with the warm memories they hold close to their heart.

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Elmer Lee 'L.E.' Wilkerson
Also known as 'Swampy'
North Baker county

After meeting overall-clad L.E. Wilkerson for the first time, I wondered how I would describe him, or even if I could. After hundreds of interviews over my lifetime, I felt helpless to characterize the unique 74-year-old north Macclenny man whose manner certainly is one set apart from any other I've known. His slow southern drawl lends credibility to his classic backwoods charm. His intense brown eyes sparkled with mischief, yet you know he is a man of profound thought. He appears simple, yet complex. He seems innocent, yet you know he isn't. Uneducated, yet you know without question he is many, many notches above ignorance.

Ed Yarbrough, former Baker County Sheriff, classifies the former moonshiner as a shrewd woodsman.

"Nobody could turn a leaf out there in the area where he lives without him knowing it," he said chuckling. "He has the nature of an Indian, and if you go near the area, he'll know you were there or have been there. He always knows everything that is going on, that's for sure. His world is right out there where he has lived all his life and that's it. He has never been far away from his environment and he don't care to be away from it. That's the only life that's ever been for him, and that's because he wants it that way," he said.

L.E. scarcely weighed two pounds when he was born to a poor farm couple, Elisha and Holly (Crews) Wilkerson, on homesteaded property that borders the big St. Mary's River that divides Florida from Georgia. He was the lone surviving child of the couple.

They told me I was put in an old coffee pot when I was born, I was so little," he said. "I had yellow jaundice, whooping cough, the measles, and hives. They said I almost died."

It's a wonder he lived," said his wife of 48 years, Lavon. "None of his parents' other children did."

Wilkerson grew up in a primitive, rough, frame farm home on 82 acres of land in north Baker County cleared for farming long before his birth by his Wilkerson forebears. He rarely left the area, though sometimes he walked the seven miles into town. He attended the Garrett Community School, often riding a horse. He went to about the fifth grade, he says, though he barely learned to read or write.

"I didn't like school and I didn't go much," he said. "I still ain't sorry I didn't go much. I make a living without that. I've seen some with an education that ain't doing as good as I am."

Why did he get involved in bootlegging? "I didn't have no better sense, I reckon. It was easy money. Well, it weren't easy money, it was fast money," he said. -- Faster than plowing a mule from sun-up to sun-down with his father in the hot fields, anyway.

"My daddy worked at a sawmill for one dollar a day. He went to work before daylight and knocked off just before dark, right across that river over there. I did the farming. I never took money from my daddy to do the farming because he was taking care of me."

By the time L.E. was 14 or 15, he met Wallace Dupree of Macclenny and began making moonshine for him along the isolated river banks and in the thick palmetto thickets of the secluded nearby woodlands. Wallace and another man, Bobby Johns, bought his whiskey and paid him one dollar a jug for it. By the time he was 17, he had saved enough money to buy a Model-A Ford. That ended his walks into town.

"I thought I was something. Back then that was a good car."

Unlike farming all day long, moonshining provided him with fast money in his pockets. In addition, he loved it! -- Except for the days when the revenuers came calling.

"They didn't catch me none," he quipped, "Unless they come up to the house to get me. In all my years of messing with it, I never did run from the revenuers but twice. I had stills on down the river, had 'em out in the woods, but don't you think beverage agent Floyd Bennett couldn't find them. He'd find them every time, and then he'd come tear it up.

"I drank moonshine, too. You don't supposed to make it if you don't drink it," he said.

Wilkerson was 26 in 1948 went he married 15-year-old Lavon Mikell, pretty daughter of Solomon and Evelyn (Pierce) Mikell.

"I knew L.E. was making whiskey when I married him," she said. "I never asked questions then, and I still don't ask questions now. When I was growing up, I was taught never to ask questions, because if someone wanted to tell you something, they would."

The couple moved into the house with L.E.'s father, Elisha, and his stepmother. His mother had died when he was young.

"L.E. mostly worked on the farm back then during the day and ran the still at night because he had to burn fat-lightered wood and it smoked so much, the revenuers would have spotted him," she said.

The couple had five children: Holly, Wayne, Windell, Billy and Susan. They now have eight grandchildren.

Wilkerson always evaded the beverage agents one way or the, other. One occasion, when agents attempted to apprehend him at the still, he ended up naked.

"One day, me and Carl Rewis was making shine out there near the river," he said in his slow southern drawl. "Carl told me he suspected them revenuers was going to come that day, but I told him he worried too much. Old beverage agent Bill Eddy was sittin' right there behind the barrels at the time listening to us, but we didn't know it. Carl decided to take what whiskey we'd already made and hide it down the river, away from the still. When he got back, I asked him if he had seen any signs of revenuers and he said he hadn't. I asked him if he locked the boat, just in case, and he said he hadn't, so he went back to the river to lock the boat.

"Just as he walked back up the hill to our still, them revenuers reached out their hands to grab us. Buddy, we didn't wait around long when we heard him shoot that pistol. I headed straight for the river and jumped in. I stripped off all my clothes so I could swim faster. I left my shoes where they were at the still. They couldn't catch me', because back then I could go. I didn't know what was happening to Carl, and I didn't care. Anybody stupid enough to put a khaki shirt in his mouth and take a half hour to swim the river I wasn't going to worry about, and that's what he did. I swum the river and come through the swamp and laid down buck naked in them palmettos. Them misquotes liked to have killed me. The revenuers was all around me. If they'd been listening they could have heard my heart beat, cause I was done give out.

"Old Bill Alford was one of them revenuers, that day, and he'd done shot the lock off my boat. They were running up and down the river looking for me in it. There was nine of them agents on the Georgia side of the river. Later, when I made it to the house, I saw Carl's track where he had crossed that old wide dirt road. He had hit it one time in the middle. He was moving on.

Wilkerson finally made it home without his clothes, but safe. "When I came walking up to the house buck naked they all knowed what had happened," he smiled.

Wilkerson said he got the last laugh. "Back then, if you got away fair and square and they didn't catch you, then they wouldn't arrest you later on. I put me two gallons of whiskey in my car and drove to town right past them. I had got away fair and they knew it, so they never bothered me."

Wilkerson remembers state beverage agent Bill Eddy, and other law enforcement officers as well, during those bootlegging years. "Eddy used to ride out here about once a week," he began. "He would drive by the house, go down there a piece and turn around and drive right back by the house again, then leave. He was a good old man. He had a job to do. He mostly did investigation work. He thought he was slick, too, but he wasn't.

"Ed was a pretty good ole feller. Asa (Coleman) was okay. I never heard of any of 'em ever taking pay-offs, and I believe I would have if they'd done it. I can tell you, they never took nothing from me or anyone I knowed. People may get mad with 'em and say that, but I don't believe it.

"Floyd Bennett would tear 'em up as fast as I'd put 'em up. Then they got to blow 'em up, but old Floyd had a job to do. If you treated him nice, he'd treat you nice. Ed was a little rougher. But Floyd would be out there on top of the still before you knowed it. He was a good man, he sure was. Now, don't get me wrong, he'd catch you, but if you didn't talk about him, or mess with him, he'd be good to YOU."

His favorite law officer was G.W. Rhoden. "He was a good man. If he went to arrest you, you went one way or the other. He'd come talk to you nice. G.W. was the only man that could go get Sylvester Mann with no problem. G.W. would say, 'Sylvester, I've come for you,' and Sylvester would just crawl in the back seat and go with him. Everybody liked G.W.," he said.

"One evening, I was about five miles from my still and I looked up and thought I saw the top of a jeep out there in them woods. I just turned off and went out there and there was G.W. sitting there. I said 'Where's Ed?' and G.W. said, 'I don't know.' I just kept sittin' there and direckly I seed Ed coming from toward where the still was, and they' found it. They tore it up the next day. They knowed I knowed it."

"Bill Eddy used to wear this big old floppy hat; well, he looked like a tramp when he'd come out in it. He'd go in them bar rooms, and take him a little drink along and along. He said he'd get all the news he wanted, just by listening to the bootleggers in there. He said he'd set there just like he was drunk and he said, they'd just roll the talk out.

"Floyd Bennett came out one time and I had a jug of liquor sitting out there in the yard. I got a pea hamper real quick and covered it up and an old sow came along and liked to have turned it over."

Wilkerson got arrested by Sheriff Yarbrough with a load of sugar in front of his house one time. "We'd kept this old car, about a 1940 model, in Macclenny at my sister-in- law's for a year. Finally, I fixed it up and got it running. The very day I brought it home, and loaded it with sugar, here they come," he said.

"I said, 'Boys, here the law is.' They carried me, sugar and all to the jail. "I posted bond. I served probation for it."

Lavon remembers the day well. "I was making pickles for all the family. We thought they'd think the sugar was for making the pickles, but they didn't believe that story," she said, laughing.

Wilkerson said he never hauled whiskey, only made it "No, ma'am, I didn't do that. I rode with Wallace one time with a few jugs, and I told him then, 'When we get back to the house, I'll make it and you haul it.'

"I didn't care much about working anywhere else, or doing much else but moonshining. When I was a making moonshine, there wasn't many jobs available for the uneducated, but I didn't really want naren.' Once, I worked at a sawmill cuttin' logs, but I didn't like nothing but bootlegging. And let me tell you something. Some people say it was easy work. But that was the hardest work I ever done. You know them old tanks of gas we used, well, tote one of them up a river hill and you'll know how hard it is. And all them five-gallon jugs of liquor to tote down the hill to put in the boat, then take it out and tote it back up the hill. Well, you got troubles.

"I made whiskey, some at night, some in the day. I didn't like that night work. I liked to be home at night, and then I also liked to see where I'm a-going, and see what's a-coming."

The most he said he ever made at one time making and selling shine was $300.

How did he spend his money? "I spent it on groceries and cars and clothes. I didn't throw any away," he said.

Moonshining had its shining moments that now bring a chuckle to his family. "We had this old goat that would get just as drunk as any man you ever seed," said L.E. "We'd have to tote her to the house; she'd be so drunk, she couldn't walk," he said.

"L.E. would always tell me to tie her up when he went to the still," remembered Lavon. "He'd say 'How about tying her, she's going to give us away,' and I'd tie her and about the time I walked away and got out of her sight, she would be gone. She'd get to that still and she meant she was going to have the first drink."

"Yeah," said L.E. "We'd have to pour her some in something. I remember there were three of 'em drunk down there at the still one day. She was drunk, I was drunk and T.J. was drunk. What happened, she was trying to have her a kid and she couldn't have it, so T.J. and me were going to take it, but they had to get drunk first. She had her baby, and she had a hang-over the next day, too.

"That goat drank pure liquor. We had to give it to her to get rid of her, or she'd stay right there until she got drunk and we'd have to bring her home. She pestered us so bad we finally had to get rid of her. She'd get on top of the still and have her feet all twisted and turned it would get so hot. She'd sit up there and eat the flour we used to keep the steam from coming out, then we'd have to re-flour it back up to seal it."

"I was running from the revenuers once that had spotted me from an airplane. I jumped in a ditch barefooted and split my foot wide open on a ragged stump. Someone in a car came by and picked me up by the road. We contacted Wallace and he took me to the doctor in Callahan. They just done it up and said it wasn't broke nowhere, but about 12 o'clock that night it got to hurtin' and Wallace got me in that car and I thought he was going to kill us before we got there. They x-rayed and found the bone was split wide open. The road patrol caught us four times that night running back and forth to the doctor; he was driving 120 mph."

That incident didn't slow him down from making moonshine. "No, it didn't. I made it right on. I rode the horse to the still and when it come sundown, that horse would bring me to the house; he wouldn't stay there no longer. He'd stand there all day, but when it come about dark, he was ready to go. He knew it was feed time. We really had some smart animals, smarter than we were," he laughed.

Wilkerson said most of his moonshine stills were constructed by Londa Thrift or his neighbor and long-time friend, Catfish Stokes.

Me and Catfish made some shine together, and he made just about all the moonshine stills around here. Boy, it'd be a sight to see all the stills that boy has made."

He may have saved his friend's life once. "I was going hunting over in Georgia real early before daylight one morning, and it was cold, ooheee, I mean it was cold. There was an old wooden bridge I had to cross over and when I run up on the bridge, I said, 'Dad gum it, if that don't look like some of Stokes' signs there.' I went back and I seed where he went over in. his truck. I said, 'Cat?, and he said, 'Yeah, get me out of here.' The truck was upside down in the water so I got down in the water and saw that the doors were jammed. He'd been there about four hours with just a little breathing space in the cab of the truck. I told him I'd run up to Clarence John's Truck Stop, and get some help. He said he had a good quart of shine in the truck but he said he couldn't find it. Anyway, just his nose was sticking up. You just could hear him down there. I knowed it was Cat by the time I seed the sign where it went off. I don't see how come it didn't kill him. It was 32 degrees. When we got him out he acted like there wasn't anything wrong with him. He's always been a lucky Catfish. We've been friends ever since we've been big enough to know each other."

Wilkerson said someone came around once and tried to sell him some parts to stolen cars. "I knew they was stolen because they were too cheap," he said.

"There was a bunch of them fellers stealing cars and things and the law thought I was in that bunch, but when they come to search the house they didn't find no stolen stuff," he said.

"Bill Eddy thought he was slick, but he wasn't. He was constantly telling me he had something on me and wanted me to plead guilty, but I told him I didn't know nothing and if he had evidence on me then he could let me know at the trial because I wasn't going to come back down there. He lied about having pictures and such because he didn't have them and I knew it 'cause I didn't do what he was saying I did. I wasn't found guilty either, because I wasn't."

It was a different story with a different ending when the Federal agents came calling at his house early one morning a few years ago.

"It was in 1987 and my son Windell had met a girl that he let move in with him. They were planning to get married, but about a year after he met her she planted some drugs in his house and turned him in. She was a pimp. She told them I was involved, too. Them people come out here and searched my house; they never found anything, but they took plenty. They even took our toaster apart. They took every penny of money we had, even the baby's piggy bank. I said, Hey, it's Friday, leave us enough to get groceries,' but they didn't do it. They took all my hunting guns, even a gun that had belonged to my daddy. They even came up here with bullet proof vests on, 18 of 'em.

They held guns on us. I just don't understand that, but they can come up here right now and kick my front door down and there's nothing I can do about it because they are Federal," he said.

Many of L.E.'s friends thought him innocent. One was former Baker County Sheriff Paul Thrift. He went to court as a character witness for L.E.

"I knew L.E. Wilkerson. I don't think he had anything to do with it. I knew L.E. for years, and his dad before him. L.E. had bought groceries from me for years, and always paid his bill faithfully. He was honest, and I knew it. I don't think he had anything to do with it, that's why I went as a character witness."

Father and son were sentenced to five years in Federal prison in Atlanta. After a year they were released and put on probation.

Four of the Wilkerson's children live on the property close to their parents.

"They went into my house without a search warrant," said Holly. "They never found any drugs, but they took all of our hunting guns. They eventually gave us ours back, but daddy never got his back," she said.

How did he feel being away from home for the first time in his life? "Well, I bet I had never even been to Taylor more than three times in my lifetime but it wasn't so bad. We had air conditioning in the summertime and heat in the wintertime, and plenty of groceries. I got homesick, but it weren't no use. I could have come home anytime I wanted, just hit the road and come on. I got a seven-days vacation while I was there and I never heard of that before and neither had anyone else," he said.

"Yeah, one day they called and said to come get Windell and his daddy, that they could come home for a week. Windell wanted to fly home because it was quicker, but L.E. wouldn't do it," said Lavon. "They were home a week, then I drove them back up to prison "

"I had bought us an old van for $1,000 to drive back while he was in Atlanta," said Lavon. All he had was an old truck, and the federal people didn't even want it when they arrested him, because it was no good," she said. " The van got us there and back. My job driving a school bus was the only thing that kept us going. Twice a month, when I got paid, me and the kids would drive up there. We went and came back the same day because we didn't have the money to stay over night."

"They tried to send me to school while I was there," he said, "but I didn't want no part of it. I told 'em 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks.' I was just a yard man up there, that's all I knowed to do, and that's all I wanted to do."

Windell was trained to make mattresses during his imprisonment, the couple said. Today, he works in air-conditioning.

"When L.E. and I got married, we lived in the house with his daddy and step-mama and there's no place big enough for two women," said Lavon. "So I moved to Macclenny and bought me some furniture and stuff. When he came to see me, I told him to go pay for the furniture because I wasn't going back, so he said, 'Let's move,' and I said, 'if you got a place to go to.' Then L.E. made arrangements for us to move into a house nearby where he grew up, so I was only gone one day.

"His uncle moved out the front door of the house and we moved in the back,' she said.

"The windows were broken out of that old house, and the tin roof was leaking," she said. "Just before he came home from Atlanta we bought this double-wide because I told him I needed something where I could be warm and dry. And we've been here ever since," she said.

It isn't that L.E. Wilkerson likes to talk about his life. He's really a private man. His children are proud of their daddy and they wanted him to tell his story. He loves his children and wants to please them. During the conversation, he was relaxed and talkative, even posing without a fuss for a picture which shocked his family.

"Well, I wasn't very proud of doing time in prison," he said, "but I didn't do nothing. I did make moonshine just about all my life. I made my last to sell in 1975," he said.

For the past five years he has worked for the City of Macclenny. "Well, I have to pay my taxes somehow," he said. "This place has always been homesteaded, but about three years ago they poured the taxes to it. I never paid any taxes when it was homesteaded. I think that county commission just sits up there and figures out what they have to have, then they're going to get it. Yeah, that's just the way it is.

"I like my job. I do my work like I am supposed to, so I don't have to see a bossman very much. That's the way the city works, you do your job and the boss don't mess with you," he said.

What is his favorite thing to do? "Well, it would be bootlegging, if they'd let me do it," he said. "I don't even have to fish anymore; my boy goes all the time. He catches them, cleans them and brings them to me."

Would he like to reveal his best kept moonshine secrets? "No", I might want to do it again someday," he quipped.

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Tommy Register
Macclenny, Florida

Tommy Register was 22 years old in 1953. He and his wife, the former Imogene Dopson, were renting land and a dwelling from a man named Buck Rowe, south of Macclenny where they were living with their young son, Billy Ray. Times were hard, jobs were scarce, but Tommy was making a good living like many other Baker countians.... manufacturing moonshine.

The afternoon sun was setting in the west and a cool wind blew eastward. One good whiff of the afternoon aura attracted the attention of one passerby that would change Tommy's life forever. He was state beverage agent Phil Tomberlin.

As Tommy and his co-worker, the late Babe Rewis, lolled around in the back yard of his home waiting on darkness to fall so they could go to work. Tomberlin and three of his co-workers drove up to the clapboard house surrounded by a picket fence. Tommy sent Babe scurrying into the house while he greeted the men who were anything but casual visitors.

"How do?" Tommy politely asked as the men proceeded to come onto the premises without permission. "Got a search warrant?," Tommy asked, as the men continued toward the back yard where the chickens and hogs scurried around in their pens.

"No, we don't have to have one," came the beverage agent's reply.

"When he said that, I just hushed," said Register.

Phil Tomberlin followed his nose as the east wind continued to blow a slight breeze over the area. It led him south to a fenced in area where he climbed over the fence to get to the east side. Noticing four old-fashioned chicken coops behind Tommy's residence, he continued his trek to where he noticed a green rubber water hose that was oozing liquid. He bent down, picked up some of the dampened sand, and smelled it. His companion standing nearby suggested it might be soured wash water, but Tomberlin's keen nose told him different. Peering inside one of the chicken coops he discovered several six-foot-high stacks of Ball fruit jars and as far as he could see there were wooden barrels. Without a search warrant or regard for Tommy's request for one, the four men proceeded with the raid and made their discovery of the decade.

"It was the first of Baker County's reputed underground moonshine stills to be discovered by the beverage agents. Tomberlin's keen smell for fermenting mash and whiskey, aided by the eastern wind, had led him directly to the right place.

Tommy was one of five children born to honorable but poor tenant farmers Bart and Daisy Harris Register of north Macclenny. Unlike his older brother, Hamp, Tommy did not plow in the hot dusty fields alongside the rest of his family from sun-up to sun-down.

"I was the puny one," he said, in his typical southern drawl. "I was hospitalized one time for hookworms that I think they said had got in my kidneys. It's been over 50 years and it's hard for me remember, but I think it was something like that."

With little schooling, Tommy turned to making moonshine at the age of 15. He sold it mostly to locals, but occasionally he hauled it to places like Valdosta, Georgia. He was earning a little spending money, he said.

"Daddy made us all a good living while we were younguns," he said. "We didn't go hungry."

During WW II Bart Register left the farm and obtained work at the shipyards in Jacksonville, but when they closed down he was out of work.

"Daddy and I made moonshine together. It didn't make us a lot of money because there were too many people making it, but it made us a good enough living," he said.

Making moonshine was not easy work. "No, you were always in a strain, watching, looking for someone to come along and catch you and tear the still up. Sugar was in 100- pound bags, and the whiskey weighed 55 pounds and that was pretty bad when you had to carry it a good ways. We toted a lot of ours on horses. we'd ride the horse to where someone would be with the car and supplies and then take the things to the still on horseback. The horse tracks would not easily give our location away because it was hard for the agents to tell what was going on with the horses. Back then everybody had a horse to help out with the work and they were all over the area,'. he explained.

At first Register said he ran his own moonshine still operation. 'Then, when the ship yards shut down in Jacksonville, me and daddy set up some stills on high ground out there in the woods. He had to do something to make a living, at least until things got better.

"I've had to tun three or four times but the revenuers never caught me," he said. "I remember one time, me and my brother-in-law were in my car up there at Lake City at a place called Five Points. We knew it weren't no use to run from the law because they could catch us in their car when we ran out of gas, so we tried to get us a good place to jump out and run. My brother-in-law fell down and they caught him, but I got away because it was night and they couldn't see where they were going and neither could 1. The agents confiscated my car and all the whiskey that night, but they'd have took it anyway if they'd caught us in the car. As it was, at least I got away. I never did get caught by them until they finally caught me at the hole."

The hole was a 40x40 foot underground moonshine still operation located in South Macclenny near Woodlawn Cemetery, and that's where he was the day the special beverage agents came calling. The still was owned and operated by him and his daddy. After 'the hole' was discovered by Tomberlin and his agents, they arrested Register and took him to jail, while his helper, Babe Rewis, hid out in the attic.

It was five years before Register would have a trial. "I come clear of the charges, I didn't serve nary a day, nor do I have one thing on my record. The judge said I was not guilty. He said I violated the law, but he said they violated the law, too."

The beverage agents admitted they did not have a search warrant giving them permission to legally go onto Register's property the day they came calling in 1953.

"When that man came crawling over that fence, I asked him didn't he have to have a warrant, but he said no they didn't have to have one. He just walked right over to the hog pen and where the chicken house was and looked in one of them holes and found it," he said.

"The night they took me to jail we just talked all the way there about all kinds of things except whiskey-making. All of them people was nice. If you try to be nice then they try to be nice," he said.

"The next morning, the revenue man came and got me from the jail and took me over to the Federal building where they finger-printed me. We all cut the fool, joked and talked. I knowed them all and they knowed me. All of them people was nice. it was about 7:30 a.m. and I was out in the hall and the Clerk of Court came out and got me. He told me to come with him, so I went with him and he carried me back into a room adjoining the judge's chambers and told me to sit by the door. He had left it cracked a little and I could hear what my lawyer and the judge were talking about. So I knowed before I went, into that court room what was going to happen.

"Later, my lawyer went out there to my house and made pictures and when the judge saw them pictures and seen that them revenuers couldn't have seen anything unless they had gone on the property, he didn't find me guilty'cause he said they had violated the law, too. Boy, that revenuer's face turned red as blood, but he didn't deny he come on the property without a warrant," he said. "of course, they could have gone and got a warrant and come back and tore the still anyway," he reflected.

Two weeks after Register's still was destroyed by the state beverage agents, the agents received a tip phone call about another underground still operation. This one was located in north Baker County and belonged to Register's brother, Hamp.

"Back then people had just started tattle-tailing on one another," he said.

"Me and my brother never did discuss too much about each other's business," he said. "We didn't want the younger kids to know about it. We always figured the more you talked about something, the worse it was. If you didn't talk about it, there weren't no danger in it getting around. He helped me a lot if I needed help, and if he needed help, I helped him. He really helped me lots more than I helped him, like when our still would get tore up, we'd help each other get the stuff up to start another one. Sometimes, we'd pay him back, and sometimes we wouldn't; he'd just give it to us, or we'd help him do something he needed done. His whiskey operation was a lot bigger than what me and daddy had," he said.

"It took me a long time to make up my mind to put in an underground still. I'd never been to one, but I'd heard of the ones in north Macclenny that belonged to them Thrift fellers and them Sigers'. I guess I had mine about two or three months when it was torn up. It was about 7 1/2- to 8-feet deep and about 40x4O feet. Me and my daddy and brother-in-law used a bulldozer to dig the hole."

When Register's daddy left the whiskey business, he lived on Social Security until he died at the age of 74. His mother, now 93, is still living.

"I'm proud of my mama. She was a good mama, always wanting us to do what was right. She knew we made whiskey and she didn't approve of it, but she knew we had to have money from somewhere. I think people way back then weren't in it for gettin' rich, they were in it just to make a living for their families. There weren't no real good jobs back then," he said.

While Register was awaiting trial he went to work for the government, working in the Osceola National Forest. A year later, he joined Rayonier timber operation in Macclenny where he stayed for five years, working and living at least two of those years in St. George, Ga. Then in October, 1958, he moved to Jacksonville and obtained employment with the City Parks and Recreation Department, working with the tree- trimming and planting crew. He retired in 1986 because of arthritis. He has had both of his hips replaced.

He and his wife Imogene have only one child, their son, Billy Ray, a physician specializing in family practice for the state of Louisiana.

"He's 42 years old and never married," he said. "He's got a big old house with 4,000 square feet in it and lives alone."

Register said he has no hobbies and stays around home unless he is visiting north of Sanderson with his mother who lives just down the road from his brother, Hamp.

"I don't ever think back too much about them moonshine days," he said. "It's something we used to didn't talk about. I figured we never would have need to either, but if someone wants to know, about it, at least what I know about it, well, that's how it went, at least all I can remember of it."

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