ireland

By The Rev Benjamin B. Smith

JOHN AND EDWARD RUTLEDGE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, A book by Professor James Haw, whetted the appetites of my wife and myself for a trip to Ireland. Dr. John Rutledge, my great-great-great-great-great grandfather, was a native of Ireland. He was the father of two South Carolina governors, John Rutledge, a signer of the U.S. Constitution, and his younger brother, Edward Rutledge, a signer of the Declaration of Independence. The elder John Rutledge had followed his older brother, Andrew Rutledge, from Ireland to South Carolina. Andrew, an attorney, arrived around 1730, and John, a physician, a few years later. In South Carolina, they married well: Andrew married Sarah Boone, the daughter of Capt. John Boone of Boone Hall Plantation, the widow of planter Hugh Hext. Dr. John married Andrew's fourteen-year-old stepdaughter, Sarah Boone Hext. Both marriages gave the young Rutledges considerable property.

The first sentence in Dr. Haw's book states "Little is known of John and Edward Rutledges European ancestry." Dr. Haw wrote "The are said" to have owned land in County Cavan, "in Ballymagied, near Baronlog," Ireland. His footnotes cite "Notes from Anna Wells Rutledge, Aug. 4, 1977" in the Rutledge File, South Carolina Historical Society. That gave us a target. Go to Ireland and find information about the Irish background of the Rutledge family.

We discovered an opportunity when we received in the mail an International Elderhostel catalogue, which listed a late summer 1999 offering of a two-week course in Irish genealogy in Ireland. The time was right and, as both my wife and myself had Irish ancestors, we signed up.

The Internet is a rich source for genealogical information, and is one of the main reasons for the current boom in amateur genealogical research. The web page for the Irish Tourist Board lists a number of sites for genealogical information, including the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre. I wrote them requesting information on the Rutledges prior to 1730. They e-mailed back that they had no records that early.

But in another e-mail, they mentioned that a couple of years before, a retired senator named Simpson, from Cody, Wyoming, had visited Cavan to research the same family; his wife had Rutledge ancestors. I found the Cody Chamber of Commerce web page, and e-mailed them for information on this Senator Simpson. They responded promptly, with the name and address of retired U.S. Senator Alan K. Simpson. I wrote him requesting any information he may have found in County Cavan.

The evening before we were to leave for Ireland, I received a telephone call. The female voice said, "Ben, this is your cousin, Ann Simpson." She said she would send me a fax with information, but insisted that I telephone a relative of hers in Los Angeles who had a wealth of Rutledge information from his visit to County Cavan. Her relative's wife answered the phone, and when I mentioned the name "Rutledge," she told me he was visiting his parents in Cape Cod, and there was a Rutledge cousin from Ireland visiting them. I tried calling Cape Cod, but there was no answer.

The next morning, an hour before driving to the airport, I tried once more, spoke to the person from Los Angeles, who then put Noelle Rutledge on the telephone. She was the last of the Rutledges born on the Rutledge farm in County Cavan. She gave me her daughter's telephone number in a suburb of Belfast, and I promised to call her when we arrived. I was elated; she sounded charming, and we made connections. Our target seemed within reach.

Our first week in Ireland was spent in Galway on Ireland's west coast, walking streets that still follow their ancient medieval courses, and where parts of the ancient walls and towers still survive. We viewed the Lynch and Blake Castles, and wondered if they belonged to forebears of South Carolina families of the same names. We spent most of our time in lectures, on Irish history economics, the Potato Famine and the resulting mass exodus from Ireland, the keys to genealogical research, and the complex subject of Irish names. "Rutledge," we learned, was definitely an English surname perhaps originating in the English County Rutland, in the Midlands - the smallest county in England. We made side trips to castles and manor houses and ancient monasteries, and went by ferry to spend a beautiful sunny day in the bleak Aran Islands.

From Galway I phoned the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre, and learned that there was no such place as "Ballymagied" in County Cavan, but there was a "Ballymagirril"; perhaps someone had corrupted the spelling from an old hand-written record. The Rutledges in Ballymagirril had attended the Templeport Church, and the Killyran School; Ann Simpson had faxed me that information. But she was descended from a William Rutledge, who had emigrated to Australia in the 1820s. Were we really cousins?

I also learned from the Cavan Centre that a retired Roman Catholic bishop in the town of Cavan was researching the Rutledges from Ballymagirril. I called him, and was told that there were no Rutledges in Ballymagirril prior to 1801, but that land in County Cavan, in the Parish of Dubally, had been granted to Rutledges in 1610, but they had never occupied it.

Our second week was spent in Dublin, in the Irish National Library and the Irish National Archives. Most of the old Irish records, church registers, deeds, wills, had been destroyed by fire when the General Post Office in Dublin was burned in the Easter Uprising of 1916, and the Four Courts (including the Public Records Office) in Dublin was shelled and burned in 1922 during the Irish Civil War.

We found a microfiche of an 1849 large scale Ordnance Map, and learned that Ballymagirril was a Townland of about 155 acres. We considered hiring a car and driving to County Cavan, but our genealogy consultant suggested that would be a waste of time, because the records were in Dublin. We hit a dead end; try as hard as we could, we found no information on the Rutledges of County Cavan.

Our genealogy consultant suggested one last hope. Since Andrew Rutledge had studied law at the Inns of Court in London, we could seek from the National Library a book of records of admission to the Inns. The four Inns of Court, dating back to the fourteenth century, have exclusive right of admission of candidates to the English bar, where young men serve a four year apprenticeship to study law. The National Library had records of two of the four Inns, Grays Inn and the Inner Temple. They were interesting, because for each student admitted his Townland and his father's name was listed. We found no South Carolina names listed in either record.

We knew that both John and Edward Rutledge, the governors, had been members of the Middle Temple in London, and thought it likely they would have followed the footsteps of their Uncle Andrew. But there was no record of admissions to the Middle Temple (so named because the buildings originally belonged to the Knights Templars), in either the National Library or the Trinity College Library in Dublin. We had hit another dead end.

But the Elderhostel was well run, and we had learned a great deal. Ireland was lovely and the weather was good; we had not met our target, but would continue our work from home.

Back home in South Carolina, again on the Internet, I found the web page for the Middle Temple Library, and wrote to the librarian seeking possible information on Andrew Rutledge, who might have

Studied there. And on October 13, 1999, I received a reply from the librarian. Yes, Andrew Rutledge was admitted to the Middle Temple on February 1st, 1726. Yes, his home was in Ireland, and his father's name was listed. Not from Ballymagirril, County Cavan. His admission record reads:

"Andrew Rutledge, son and heir of Thomas R [utledge], late of Callan, County Kilkenny, Ireland, esq., decd."

Callan, County Kilkenny is in the South of Ireland, about 65 miles Southwest of Dublin. It is an area settled by the English beginning with the Norman Conquest of Ireland in the eleventh century. The name of the father of Andrew Rutledge and his brother Dr. John Rutledge was Thomas Rutledge, the grandfather of the distinguished John and Edward Rutledge, founders and governors of the State of South Carolina and significant founders of the American Republic.

Andrew Rutledge was perhaps the first of the South Carolina members of the Middle Temple. His nephews, John, Edward, and Hugh, and others sons of South Carolina - including Charles Cotesworth Pinckney Charles Pinckney, Arthur Middleton, Thomas Lynch, Jr., and Thomas Heyward, Jr. - followed him to the Middle Temple for their legal education in London. Four of these South Carolina Middle Templars signed the Declaration of Independence.

The record of the admission of Andrew Rutledge, with his father's name and his birthplace, has been kept in the Library of the Middle Temple for 273 years. The riddle of the Rutledge Irish origins had finally been resolved.

Now we have reason to return to lovely Ireland to see what more we can uncover about the history of this fascinating and distinguished American patriot family. The County Cavan suggestion led us to the her than the South, of Ireland. As many genealogists know, we learn by trial and

Were my Great-Great Grandparents.

I have a paper that was written by a relative back in the 1930's that lists some things, but I would love to find more.

Robert Rutledge - was born in Ulster, Northern Ireland, but came to Canada as an infant.

His Father was Thomas Rutledge who was married to Jane Thompson, cousin of William Thompson.

It is said they came to Northern Ireland from England because of religious reasons.

Is there any place that I can find out more about them? I have no dates of any kind for Robt Rutledge. I believe that Ellen was born in Canada, but her father Robert Elliott was born in Ulster.

Hi Cheryl - Well, thanks for looking at my query, anyway.

There were other Rutledges in both Dedham and Passaic during John/Patrick & Hannah's times there, but I don't have any reason to think they were connected. Oral family history says that Patrick came over on his own, and that he left whatever family (parents, siblings) he had behind in Ireland.

Many of the postings that I've come across involve Rutledges who seem to have entered the US well before Patrick. I am trying to hunt down his Naturalization papers at the present, but so far have had no luck. They should at least confirm that he came from County Mayo.

Good luck in your search for "John Smith"!! You have my sympathy!!

Elizabeth

From: [email protected]

Hi Elizabeth, I wish I could help you but I doubt very much if I can connect
with what little info I have on my early Rutledge line. I have a John B.
Smith who was born somewhere in New Jersey about 1810. One of his sons (Abner
b. 1840, Fountain co., Indiana) married Nancy Jane Rutledge who was the
daughter of John Wesley Rutledge and Susan Hannah Lyons. I have a quite a bit of
descendents info on John B. Smith, but nothing about his parentage or where
exactly in New Jersey he was born. I sure wish I knew. I have the given
names of Charles, John, Elizabeth, Hannah and James in my Rutledge/Smith line,
but they are all pretty common names so that doesn't help much either. We
should all be so lucky as to have a John Smith to research.....ha ha. Cheryl

Hello All - This is basically a reposting (to a recent posting). Just wanted to put my information out there with a more precise subject line.

I am looking for information on my gggrandfather, Patrick Rutledge.

This is what I have been able to determine:

Patrick Rutledge was born circa 1832 - 1834 (per census info) in County Mayo Ireland (per oral family history). His parents were James Rutledge and Bridget (unknown). Information on his parents names came for his marriage certificate (1854, Dedham, MA).

Patrick emigrated to the US @ 1850, leaving his family behind.

He married Hannah Leahy in 1854 in Dedham, Massachusetts. They and their oldest children remained there until the mid 1860's. They moved to Passaic, NJ and had their remaining children there.

Children born in Massachusetts were: George, Mary, James, John, Ella & Elizabeth
Children born in New Jersey were: Charles, Daisy, Thomas (my great grandfather)
Carrie & Hannah (twins)

At some point between 1880 & 1900, Patrick changed his first name to "John". He appears as John Rutledge married to Hannah on the 1900 Passaic census.

Anyone have any possible link to this family??

I am especially interested in James and Bridget Rutledge in County Mayo, Ireland circa early 1830's.

Thanks!
Elizabeth Baehrel

Hello - Just wanted to correct my prior posting concerning Patrick Rutledge from a couple of weeks ago. The subject line is: Patrick Rutledge/Passaic, NJ @ 1900/ Dedham, MA, etc.

It turns out that Patrick was born (March 1833) in County Roscommon Ireland, not County Mayo as I had thought.

His parents were James Rutledge and Bridget (unknown).

Does anyone have any information on the County Roscommon Rutledges circa 1830's??

Thanks!
Elizabeth Baehrel

By The Rev Benjamin B. Smith

JOHN AND EDWARD RUTLEDGE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, A book by Professor James Haw, whetted the appetites of my wife and myself for a trip to Ireland. Dr. John Rutledge, my great-great-great-great-great grandfather, was a native of Ireland. He was the father of two South Carolina governors, John Rutledge, a signer of the U.S. Constitution, and his younger brother, Edward Rutledge, a signer of the Declaration of Independence. The elder John Rutledge had followed his older brother, Andrew Rutledge, from Ireland to South Carolina. Andrew, an attorney, arrived around 1730, and John, a physician, a few years later. In South Carolina, they married well: Andrew married Sarah Boone, the daughter of Capt. John Boone of Boone Hall Plantation, the widow of planter Hugh Hext. Dr. John married Andrew's fourteen-year-old stepdaughter, Sarah Boone Hext. Both marriages gave the young Rutledges considerable property.

The first sentence in Dr. Haw's book states "Little is known of John and Edward Rutledges European ancestry." Dr. Haw wrote "The are said" to have owned land in County Cavan, "in Ballymagied, near Baronlog," Ireland. His footnotes cite "Notes from Anna Wells Rutledge, Aug. 4, 1977" in the Rutledge File, South Carolina Historical Society. That gave us a target. Go to Ireland and find information about the Irish background of the Rutledge family.

We discovered an opportunity when we received in the mail an International Elderhostel catalogue, which listed a late summer 1999 offering of a two-week course in Irish genealogy in Ireland. The time was right and, as both my wife and myself had Irish ancestors, we signed up.

The Internet is a rich source for genealogical information, and is one of the main reasons for the current boom in amateur genealogical research. The web page for the Irish Tourist Board lists a number of sites for genealogical information, including the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre. I wrote them requesting information on the Rutledges prior to 1730. They e-mailed back that they had no records that early.

But in another e-mail, they mentioned that a couple of years before, a retired senator named Simpson, from Cody, Wyoming, had visited Cavan to research the same family; his wife had Rutledge ancestors. I found the Cody Chamber of Commerce web page, and e-mailed them for information on this Senator Simpson. They responded promptly, with the name and address of retired U.S. Senator Alan K. Simpson. I wrote him requesting any information he may have found in County Cavan.

The evening before we were to leave for Ireland, I received a telephone call. The female voice said, "Ben, this is your cousin, Ann Simpson." She said she would send me a fax with information, but insisted that I telephone a relative of hers in Los Angeles who had a wealth of Rutledge information from his visit to County Cavan. Her relative's wife answered the phone, and when I mentioned the name "Rutledge," she told me he was visiting his parents in Cape Cod, and there was a Rutledge cousin from Ireland visiting them. I tried calling Cape Cod, but there was no answer.

The next morning, an hour before driving to the airport, I tried once more, spoke to the person from Los Angeles, who then put Noelle Rutledge on the telephone. She was the last of the Rutledges born on the Rutledge farm in County Cavan. She gave me her daughter's telephone number in a suburb of Belfast, and I promised to call her when we arrived. I was elated; she sounded charming, and we made connections. Our target seemed within reach.

Our first week in Ireland was spent in Galway on Ireland's west coast, walking streets that still follow their ancient medieval courses, and where parts of the ancient walls and towers still survive. We viewed the Lynch and Blake Castles, and wondered if they belonged to forebears of South Carolina families of the same names. We spent most of our time in lectures, on Irish history economics, the Potato Famine and the resulting mass exodus from Ireland, the keys to genealogical research, and the complex subject of Irish names. "Rutledge," we learned, was definitely an English surname perhaps originating in the English County Rutland, in the Midlands - the smallest county in England. We made side trips to castles and manor houses and ancient monasteries, and went by ferry to spend a beautiful sunny day in the bleak Aran Islands.

From Galway I phoned the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre, and learned that there was no such place as "Ballymagied" in County Cavan, but there was a "Ballymagirril"; perhaps someone had corrupted the spelling from an old hand-written record. The Rutledges in Ballymagirril had attended the Templeport Church, and the Killyran School; Ann Simpson had faxed me that information. But she was descended from a William Rutledge, who had emigrated to Australia in the 1820s. Were we really cousins?

I also learned from the Cavan Centre that a retired Roman Catholic bishop in the town of Cavan was researching the Rutledges from Ballymagirril. I called him, and was told that there were no Rutledges in Ballymagirril prior to 1801, but that land in County Cavan, in the Parish of Dubally, had been granted to Rutledges in 1610, but they had never occupied it.

Our second week was spent in Dublin, in the Irish National Library and the Irish National Archives. Most of the old Irish records, church registers, deeds, wills, had been destroyed by fire when the General Post Office in Dublin was burned in the Easter Uprising of 1916, and the Four Courts (including the Public Records Office) in Dublin was shelled and burned in 1922 during the Irish Civil War.

We found a microfiche of an 1849 large scale Ordnance Map, and learned that Ballymagirril was a Townland of about 155 acres. We considered hiring a car and driving to County Cavan, but our genealogy consultant suggested that would be a waste of time, because the records were in Dublin. We hit a dead end; try as hard as we could, we found no information on the Rutledges of County Cavan.

Our genealogy consultant suggested one last hope. Since Andrew Rutledge had studied law at the Inns of Court in London, we could seek from the National Library a book of records of admission to the Inns. The four Inns of Court, dating back to the fourteenth century, have exclusive right of admission of candidates to the English bar, where young men serve a four year apprenticeship to study law. The National Library had records of two of the four Inns, Grays Inn and the Inner Temple. They were interesting, because for each student admitted his Townland and his father's name was listed. We found no South Carolina names listed in either record.

We knew that both John and Edward Rutledge, the governors, had been members of the Middle Temple in London, and thought it likely they would have followed the footsteps of their Uncle Andrew. But there was no record of admissions to the Middle Temple (so named because the buildings originally belonged to the Knights Templars), in either the National Library or the Trinity College Library in Dublin. We had hit another dead end.

But the Elderhostel was well run, and we had learned a great deal. Ireland was lovely and the weather was good; we had not met our target, but would continue our work from home.

Back home in South Carolina, again on the Internet, I found the web page for the Middle Temple Library, and wrote to the librarian seeking possible information on Andrew Rutledge, who might have

Studied there. And on October 13, 1999, I received a reply from the librarian. Yes, Andrew Rutledge was admitted to the Middle Temple on February 1st, 1726. Yes, his home was in Ireland, and his father's name was listed. Not from Ballymagirril, County Cavan. His admission record reads:

"Andrew Rutledge, son and heir of Thomas R [utledge], late of Callan, County Kilkenny, Ireland, esq., decd."

Callan, County Kilkenny is in the South of Ireland, about 65 miles Southwest of Dublin. It is an area settled by the English beginning with the Norman Conquest of Ireland in the eleventh century. The name of the father of Andrew Rutledge and his brother Dr. John Rutledge was Thomas Rutledge, the grandfather of the distinguished John and Edward Rutledge, founders and governors of the State of South Carolina and significant founders of the American Republic.

Andrew Rutledge was perhaps the first of the South Carolina members of the Middle Temple. His nephews, John, Edward, and Hugh, and others sons of South Carolina - including Charles Cotesworth Pinckney Charles Pinckney, Arthur Middleton, Thomas Lynch, Jr., and Thomas Heyward, Jr. - followed him to the Middle Temple for their legal education in London. Four of these South Carolina Middle Templars signed the Declaration of Independence.

The record of the admission of Andrew Rutledge, with his father's name and his birthplace, has been kept in the Library of the Middle Temple for 273 years. The riddle of the Rutledge Irish origins had finally been resolved.

Now we have reason to return to lovely Ireland to see what more we can uncover about the history of this fascinating and distinguished American patriot family. The County Cavan suggestion led us to the North, rather than the South, of Ireland. As many genealogists know, we learn by trial and

Hi George
My George Ruttledge was born 1797
His brothers were
Thomas
David
James Peter
and William b. 1804

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:03 AM
Subject: Re:Scotland - now DNA

Carol - Do you have any brothers to David Rutledge or George Rutledge
(1797-1872) that were from Ireland.
And does anyone know where Tawnaghmore is in Ireland... I figure it is a
village or town of some sort...
George Rutledge

Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: was Scotland - now DNA

Hi Larry
Here is my tree to date
Richard Rutledge, County Mayo, Ireland 1607-1633
Thomas Ruttledge d. 1685
Andrew Ruttledge
James (of Tawnaghmore) Ruttledge 1700 - ?
David Ruttledge
George Ruttledge J.P. 1797-1872
James Peter Ruttledge 1832-1876 Born Castle Connor, County Mayo died
Dunedin, NZ
Wilson George Victor Ruttledge 1864 - 1929 Born Melbourne, Australia, died
Dunedin 1929
Linda Mabel Taylor (nee Ruttledge)
Emily Elizabeth McCrone (nee Taylor)
Carol McCrone

Wilson George Victor had one son called Wilson who had one daughter so
alas the male line has died out.

Cheers, Carol

From: "Larry Rutledge" <[email protected]
"Carol" <[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:29 PM

Carol,

If your g/grandfather was the last male Rutledge in your line, then Y DNA
testing will not be possible for you.

For testing of the Y Chromosome Surname line, it requires an unbroken,
continuous father to son link to the male being tested.

Did your g/grandfather have any male siblings, or is there another part
of that branch of your Rutledge line that you can trace to a male
descendant that could take the test. You mentioned that Sean was in
your
line. How is he connected?

Larry

On 9 Jan 2007 at 17:59, Carol wrote:

Hi Larry
I've been trying to follow and read up about the DNA testing but find
it
all a bit confusing. My g/grandfather Wilson George Victor Ruttledge d.
1929 was the last of the male line in NZ. My grandmother Linda Mabel,
then my mother Emily Elizabeth, then me Carol and I have two sons. If
my
sons can be tested then my daughter-in-law who lives in Melbourne is
able
to extract DNA. If this is a possibility then can you give me specific
instructions as to what is required. Thanks Carol

- Larry Rutledge
- Houston, TX

Hi - My name is George Rutledge.
I live near Watkins Glen, NY.
What year was your John Rutledge born.
I have been dong research on a (John Rutledge) but have found little on
him.
My john was born on Nov 25, 1839 in Ireland.
Was in the local census (Schuyler Co,NY) in 1850, then died on April
11th,1902.
Does this sound like a match to you?
George Rutledge

From: "Donna Smalley" <[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:21 PM
Subject: John Rutledge of Warren Co. PA

History of Warren Co. Pennsylvania, Ed. J. S. Schenck 1887 p. 219-226
ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-FIFTH REGIMENT.
Company F of this regiment was recruited at Tidioute, by Captain Kimball
H. Stiles, in the summer of 1862

After the surrender of Lee the regiment returned through Richmond with the
corps, to Alexandria, and a few days later participated in the grand
review at Washington, D.C. It was mustered out of service on the 31st of
May, and arrived at Erie, Pa., on the 5th of June, when it was disbanded.
Its member, credited to Warren county, were as follows:
p. 226 John Rutledge, killed at Fredericksburg December 13, 1862.

Does anybody have more information on this John Rutledge?
If anyone wants the whole history of this Regiment, please email me and I
will send it to you.
Donna in Oregon

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Message Board Post:

I hope I haven't come to the end of the research into my Family Tree but I can't seem to find much on them or even confirm for sure that they came from Ireland, but the Family Legends & Census Records do say Ireland.

My Great-Great Great Grandfather, Thomas Rutledge married Jane Thomson (Thompson) who was suppose to be the cousin of Lord Kelvin.

They had my Great-Great Grandfather Robert Rutledge who married Ellen Elliot (daughter of Robert Elliott and Elizabeth Graham).

They all apparently moved to Canada sometime before 1851 because I have the Elliott Family on that Census.

Does anyone know how I can find out birthdates, etc and confirm that they did really come from Ireland?

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By The Rev Benjamin B. Smith

JOHN AND EDWARD RUTLEDGE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, A book by Professor James Haw, whetted the appetites of my wife and myself for a trip to Ireland. Dr. John Rutledge, my great-great-great-great-great grandfather, was a native of Ireland. He was the father of two South Carolina governors, John Rutledge, a signer of the U.S. Constitution, and his younger brother, Edward Rutledge, a signer of the Declaration of Independence. The elder John Rutledge had followed his older brother, Andrew Rutledge, from Ireland to South Carolina. Andrew, an attorney, arrived around 1730, and John, a physician, a few years later. In South Carolina, they married well: Andrew married Sarah Boone, the daughter of Capt. John Boone of Boone Hall Plantation, the widow of planter Hugh Hext. Dr. John married Andrew's fourteen-year-old stepdaughter, Sarah Boone Hext. Both marriages gave the young Rutledges considerable property.

The first sentence in Dr. Haw's book states "Little is known of John and Edward Rutledges European ancestry." Dr. Haw wrote "The are said" to have owned land in County Cavan, "in Ballymagied, near Baronlog," Ireland. His footnotes cite "Notes from Anna Wells Rutledge, Aug. 4, 1977" in the Rutledge File, South Carolina Historical Society. That gave us a target. Go to Ireland and find information about the Irish background of the Rutledge family.

We discovered an opportunity when we received in the mail an International Elderhostel catalogue, which listed a late summer 1999 offering of a two-week course in Irish genealogy in Ireland. The time was right and, as both my wife and myself had Irish ancestors, we signed up.

The Internet is a rich source for genealogical information, and is one of the main reasons for the current boom in amateur genealogical research. The web page for the Irish Tourist Board lists a number of sites for genealogical information, including the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre. I wrote them requesting information on the Rutledges prior to 1730. They e-mailed back that they had no records that early.

But in another e-mail, they mentioned that a couple of years before, a retired senator named Simpson, from Cody, Wyoming, had visited Cavan to research the same family; his wife had Rutledge ancestors. I found the Cody Chamber of Commerce web page, and e-mailed them for information on this Senator Simpson. They responded promptly, with the name and address of retired U.S. Senator Alan K. Simpson. I wrote him requesting any information he may have found in County Cavan.

The evening before we were to leave for Ireland, I received a telephone call. The female voice said, "Ben, this is your cousin, Ann Simpson." She said she would send me a fax with information, but insisted that I telephone a relative of hers in Los Angeles who had a wealth of Rutledge information from his visit to County Cavan. Her relative's wife answered the phone, and when I mentioned the name "Rutledge," she told me he was visiting his parents in Cape Cod, and there was a Rutledge cousin from Ireland visiting them. I tried calling Cape Cod, but there was no answer.

The next morning, an hour before driving to the airport, I tried once more, spoke to the person from Los Angeles, who then put Noelle Rutledge on the telephone. She was the last of the Rutledges born on the Rutledge farm in County Cavan. She gave me her daughter's telephone number in a suburb of Belfast, and I promised to call her when we arrived. I was elated; she sounded charming, and we made connections. Our target seemed within reach.

Our first week in Ireland was spent in Galway on Ireland's west coast, walking streets that still follow their ancient medieval courses, and where parts of the ancient walls and towers still survive. We viewed the Lynch and Blake Castles, and wondered if they belonged to forebears of South Carolina families of the same names. We spent most of our time in lectures, on Irish history economics, the Potato Famine and the resulting mass exodus from Ireland, the keys to genealogical research, and the complex subject of Irish names. "Rutledge," we learned, was definitely an English surname perhaps originating in the English County Rutland, in the Midlands - the smallest county in England. We made side trips to castles and manor houses and ancient monasteries, and went by ferry to spend a beautiful sunny day in the bleak Aran Islands.

From Galway I phoned the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre, and learned that there was no such place as "Ballymagied" in County Cavan, but there was a "Ballymagirril"; perhaps someone had corrupted the spelling from an old hand-written record. The Rutledges in Ballymagirril had attended the Templeport Church, and the Killyran School; Ann Simpson had faxed me that information. But she was descended from a William Rutledge, who had emigrated to Australia in the 1820s. Were we really cousins?

I also learned from the Cavan Centre that a retired Roman Catholic bishop in the town of Cavan was researching the Rutledges from Ballymagirril. I called him, and was told that there were no Rutledges in Ballymagirril prior to 1801, but that land in County Cavan, in the Parish of Dubally, had been granted to Rutledges in 1610, but they had never occupied it.

Our second week was spent in Dublin, in the Irish National Library and the Irish National Archives. Most of the old Irish records, church registers, deeds, wills, had been destroyed by fire when the General Post Office in Dublin was burned in the Easter Uprising of 1916, and the Four Courts (including the Public Records Office) in Dublin was shelled and burned in 1922 during the Irish Civil War.

We found a microfiche of an 1849 large scale Ordnance Map, and learned that Ballymagirril was a Townland of about 155 acres. We considered hiring a car and driving to County Cavan, but our genealogy consultant suggested that would be a waste of time, because the records were in Dublin. We hit a dead end; try as hard as we could, we found no information on the Rutledges of County Cavan.

Our genealogy consultant suggested one last hope. Since Andrew Rutledge had studied law at the Inns of Court in London, we could seek from the National Library a book of records of admission to the Inns. The four Inns of Court, dating back to the fourteenth century, have exclusive right of admission of candidates to the English bar, where young men serve a four year apprenticeship to study law. The National Library had records of two of the four Inns, Grays Inn and the Inner Temple. They were interesting, because for each student admitted his Townland and his father's name was listed. We found no South Carolina names listed in either record.

We knew that both John and Edward Rutledge, the governors, had been members of the Middle Temple in London, and thought it likely they would have followed the footsteps of their Uncle Andrew. But there was no record of admissions to the Middle Temple (so named because the buildings originally belonged to the Knights Templars), in either the National Library or the Trinity College Library in Dublin. We had hit another dead end.

But the Elderhostel was well run, and we had learned a great deal. Ireland was lovely and the weather was good; we had not met our target, but would continue our work from home.

Back home in South Carolina, again on the Internet, I found the web page for the Middle Temple Library, and wrote to the librarian seeking possible information on Andrew Rutledge, who might have

Studied there. And on October 13, 1999, I received a reply from the librarian. Yes, Andrew Rutledge was admitted to the Middle Temple on February 1st, 1726. Yes, his home was in Ireland, and his father's name was listed. Not from Ballymagirril, County Cavan. His admission record reads:

"Andrew Rutledge, son and heir of Thomas R [utledge], late of Callan, County Kilkenny, Ireland, esq., decd."

Callan, County Kilkenny is in the South of Ireland, about 65 miles Southwest of Dublin. It is an area settled by the English beginning with the Norman Conquest of Ireland in the eleventh century. The name of the father of Andrew Rutledge and his brother Dr. John Rutledge was Thomas Rutledge, the grandfather of the distinguished John and Edward Rutledge, founders and governors of the State of South Carolina and significant founders of the American Republic.

Andrew Rutledge was perhaps the first of the South Carolina members of the Middle Temple. His nephews, John, Edward, and Hugh, and others sons of South Carolina - including Charles Cotesworth Pinckney Charles Pinckney, Arthur Middleton, Thomas Lynch, Jr., and Thomas Heyward, Jr. - followed him to the Middle Temple for their legal education in London. Four of these South Carolina Middle Templars signed the Declaration of Independence.

The record of the admission of Andrew Rutledge, with his father's name and his birthplace, has been kept in the Library of the Middle Temple for 273 years. The riddle of the Rutledge Irish origins had finally been resolved.

Now we have reason to return to lovely Ireland to see what more we can uncover about the history of this fascinating and distinguished American patriot family. The County Cavan suggestion led us to the North, rather than the South, of Ireland. As many genealogists know, we learn by trial and

BALLINA CHRONICLE
Ballina, Co. Mayo
Wednesday, July 24, 1850

MAYO ASSIZES

On Thursday last at 12 o'clock, C.G. Mahon, Esq. High Sheriff, entered
the Crown Court, and having taken his seat on the bench, handed the Grand
Panel to J.W. Browne, Esq., Clerk of the Crown, by whom the names were
called. Those gentlemen, to whose names figures are prefixed, having
answered, were sworn on the Grand Jury:

1. C.L. Kirwan, Esq., Dalgan Park-Foreman-Kilmain.
2. Sir R.L. Blosse, Bart., Athavillie-Carra.
3. Col. C.N. Knox, Castle Lacken-Tyrawly
4. Sir Wm. O'Malley, Kilboyne-Murrisk
5. Sir Richard A. O'Donnell, Bart, Newport House-Burrishoole
6. A.C. Lynch, Esq., Clogher-Clanmorris
7. Robert Rutledge, Esq. Bloomfield-Gallen
Denis Bingham, Esq. Bingham Castle-Erris
J.M. M'Donnell, Esq, Deo Castle, Costello
G.B. Moore, Esq., M.P. Moorehall
[?] John Browne, Westport House
Hon. Geoffrey Browne, Castlemacgarrett
Hon. Theobald Dillon, Loughglynn
Hon. B.C. Yelverton, Hazle Rock
Sir Roger Palmer, Bart., Palmerstown
Sir Compton Domville, Bart, Prison
T.S. [???]lsey, Esq., Hollymount House
8. Col. [?] Gore, Beleek Manor
Annesley Knox, Esq, Rappa Castle
9. James Howe Browne, Esq, Claremount
10. James A. Browne, Esq., Brownshall
11. Valentine O'C Blake, Esq., Towerhill
John Knox, Esq., Castlerea
12. Col. James M'Alpine, Windsor
13. Mark Blake, Esq., Ballinafad
Mervyn Pratt, Esq., Enniscoe
James Knox Gildea, Esq., Clo[...?]
14. Oliver V. Jackson, Carramore
St. George Cuffe, Esq., Deel Castle
15. H.W. Knox, Esq., Nettly
J.D. Browne, Esq., Mount Browne
16. Bernard M'Manus, Esq., Barley [?]
17. James Cuffe, Esq., Creagh
18. Capt. F. Higgins, Westport
19. Thomas Jones, Esq., Castletown
Parsons Persse, Esq., Newbrook
20. George J. O'Mally, Esq., Newcastle
21. J.C. Garvey, Esq., Murrisk Abbey
E.H. Taafe, Esq., Woodfield
22. General Sir R. Arthuthnot, Farmhill.
23. George Ormsby, Esq., Rocklands
Capt. W.K. Orme, Glenmore
Charles Blake, Esq., Merlin Park
John Lindsey Bucknell, Esq., Turin Castle
Alexander Clendining, Esq., Westport
Robert Fair, Esq., Bushfield
Dominick Browne, Esq., Breaffy
Francis B. Knox, Esq., Springhill
H.J.H. Browne, Esq., Rahins
Thomas Carter, Esq., Shean Lodge.
H. Sharpe Brabazon, Esq., Brabazon Park
John Walsh, Esq., Castlehill
E.G. Bell, Esq., Streamstown
Isidore Burke, Esq., Curraleagh
C. Strickland, Esq., Loughglynn House
William Symes, Esq., Ballina
John Lynch, Esq., Partry
Major John Gardiner, Farmhill
W.M. Fitzmaurice, Esq., Lagaturn
D.W. Rutledge, Esq., Annefield
Myles J. M'Donnell, Esq., Carnacon
Geoffrey Martin, Esq., Carramore
William Orme, Esq., Owenmore
John Knox, Esq., Greenwood Park
Austin F. Crean, Esq., Ballinavilla
Charles O'Donnell, Esq., Ross
William Kearney, Esq., Ballinavilla
Thomas Paget, Esq., Knockglass
George Rutledge, Esq., Togher
John F. Knox, Esq., Mount Falcon
Thomas Phillips, Esq., Clonmore
Anthony Ormsby, Esq., Ballinamore
Thomas Ormsby, Esq., Knockmore
Charles Lynch, Esq., Ballycurran Castle
Edward Howley, Esq., Beleek
Courtney Kenny, Esq., Ballinrobe
W.H. Orme, Esq., Abbeytown
Benjamin Jennings, Esq., Mount Jennings
F.R. O'Grady, Esq., Tavrane
William Malley, Esq., Ballina
Martin D'Arcy, Esq., Houndswood
Thomas Palmer, Esq., Summerhill
Edward Orme, Esq., Ballycorroon
William Atkinson, Esq., Rahins
Roger Palmer, Esq., Carramore
Thomas Elwood, Esq., Strandhill
Thomas Palmer, Esq., Palmerstown
Charles Coyne, Esq., Massbrook
James Garvey, Esq. Tully House
Robert Kirkwood, Esq., Greenpark Lodge
Peter Tuohy, Esq., Oxford
E.J. Nolan, Esq., Logboy
John Bollingbroke, Esq., Oldcastle
Henry Martin Blake, Esq., The Heath.

Henry Brewster, Esq., County Surveyor, then read his half-yearly report
and the Grand Jury proceeded to the discharging of the Fiscal-business, none
of which was of any importance.

Cathy Joynt Labath
Ireland Old News
http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

By The Rev Benjamin B. Smith

JOHN AND EDWARD RUTLEDGE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, A book by Professor James Haw, whetted the appetites of my wife and myself for a trip to Ireland. Dr. John Rutledge, my great-great-great-great-great grandfather, was a native of Ireland. He was the father of two South Carolina governors, John Rutledge, a signer of the U.S. Constitution, and his younger brother, Edward Rutledge, a signer of the Declaration of Independence. The elder John Rutledge had followed his older brother, Andrew Rutledge, from Ireland to South Carolina. Andrew, an attorney, arrived around 1730, and John, a physician, a few years later. In South Carolina, they married well: Andrew married Sarah Boone, the daughter of Capt. John Boone of Boone Hall Plantation, the widow of planter Hugh Hext. Dr. John married Andrew's fourteen-year-old stepdaughter, Sarah Boone Hext. Both marriages gave the young Rutledges considerable property.

The first sentence in Dr. Haw's book states "Little is known of John and Edward Rutledges European ancestry." Dr. Haw wrote "The are said" to have owned land in County Cavan, "in Ballymagied, near Baronlog," Ireland. His footnotes cite "Notes from Anna Wells Rutledge, Aug. 4, 1977" in the Rutledge File, South Carolina Historical Society. That gave us a target. Go to Ireland and find information about the Irish background of the Rutledge family.

We discovered an opportunity when we received in the mail an International Elderhostel catalogue, which listed a late summer 1999 offering of a two-week course in Irish genealogy in Ireland. The time was right and, as both my wife and myself had Irish ancestors, we signed up.

The Internet is a rich source for genealogical information, and is one of the main reasons for the current boom in amateur genealogical research. The web page for the Irish Tourist Board lists a number of sites for genealogical information, including the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre. I wrote them requesting information on the Rutledges prior to 1730. They e-mailed back that they had no records that early.

But in another e-mail, they mentioned that a couple of years before, a retired senator named Simpson, from Cody, Wyoming, had visited Cavan to research the same family; his wife had Rutledge ancestors. I found the Cody Chamber of Commerce web page, and e-mailed them for information on this Senator Simpson. They responded promptly, with the name and address of retired U.S. Senator Alan K. Simpson. I wrote him requesting any information he may have found in County Cavan.

The evening before we were to leave for Ireland, I received a telephone call. The female voice said, "Ben, this is your cousin, Ann Simpson." She said she would send me a fax with information, but insisted that I telephone a relative of hers in Los Angeles who had a wealth of Rutledge information from his visit to County Cavan. Her relative's wife answered the phone, and when I mentioned the name "Rutledge," she told me he was visiting his parents in Cape Cod, and there was a Rutledge cousin from Ireland visiting them. I tried calling Cape Cod, but there was no answer.

The next morning, an hour before driving to the airport, I tried once more, spoke to the person from Los Angeles, who then put Noelle Rutledge on the telephone. She was the last of the Rutledges born on the Rutledge farm in County Cavan. She gave me her daughter's telephone number in a suburb of Belfast, and I promised to call her when we arrived. I was elated; she sounded charming, and we made connections. Our target seemed within reach.

Our first week in Ireland was spent in Galway on Ireland's west coast, walking streets that still follow their ancient medieval courses, and where parts of the ancient walls and towers still survive. We viewed the Lynch and Blake Castles, and wondered if they belonged to forebears of South Carolina families of the same names. We spent most of our time in lectures, on Irish history economics, the Potato Famine and the resulting mass exodus from Ireland, the keys to genealogical research, and the complex subject of Irish names. "Rutledge," we learned, was definitely an English surname perhaps originating in the English County Rutland, in the Midlands - the smallest county in England. We made side trips to castles and manor houses and ancient monasteries, and went by ferry to spend a beautiful sunny day in the bleak Aran Islands.

From Galway I phoned the County Cavan Heritage and Genealogy Centre, and learned that there was no such place as "Ballymagied" in County Cavan, but there was a "Ballymagirril"; perhaps someone had corrupted the spelling from an old hand-written record. The Rutledges in Ballymagirril had attended the Templeport Church, and the Killyran School; Ann Simpson had faxed me that information. But she was descended from a William Rutledge, who had emigrated to Australia in the 1820s. Were we really cousins?

I also learned from the Cavan Centre that a retired Roman Catholic bishop in the town of Cavan was researching the Rutledges from Ballymagirril. I called him, and was told that there were no Rutledges in Ballymagirril prior to 1801, but that land in County Cavan, in the Parish of Dubally, had been granted to Rutledges in 1610, but they had never occupied it.

Our second week was spent in Dublin, in the Irish National Library and the Irish National Archives. Most of the old Irish records, church registers, deeds, wills, had been destroyed by fire when the General Post Office in Dublin was burned in the Easter Uprising of 1916, and the Four Courts (including the Public Records Office) in Dublin was shelled and burned in 1922 during the Irish Civil War.

We found a microfiche of an 1849 large scale Ordnance Map, and learned that Ballymagirril was a Townland of about 155 acres. We considered hiring a car and driving to County Cavan, but our genealogy consultant suggested that would be a waste of time, because the records were in Dublin. We hit a dead end; try as hard as we could, we found no information on the Rutledges of County Cavan.

Our genealogy consultant suggested one last hope. Since Andrew Rutledge had studied law at the Inns of Court in London, we could seek from the National Library a book of records of admission to the Inns. The four Inns of Court, dating back to the fourteenth century, have exclusive right of admission of candidates to the English bar, where young men serve a four year apprenticeship to study law. The National Library had records of two of the four Inns, Grays Inn and the Inner Temple. They were interesting, because for each student admitted his Townland and his father's name was listed. We found no South Carolina names listed in either record.

We knew that both John and Edward Rutledge, the governors, had been members of the Middle Temple in London, and thought it likely they would have followed the footsteps of their Uncle Andrew. But there was no record of admissions to the Middle Temple (so named because the buildings originally belonged to the Knights Templars), in either the National Library or the Trinity College Library in Dublin. We had hit another dead end.

But the Elderhostel was well run, and we had learned a great deal. Ireland was lovely and the weather was good; we had not met our target, but would continue our work from home.

Back home in South Carolina, again on the Internet, I found the web page for the Middle Temple Library, and wrote to the librarian seeking possible information on Andrew Rutledge, who might have

Studied there. And on October 13, 1999, I received a reply from the librarian. Yes, Andrew Rutledge was admitted to the Middle Temple on February 1st, 1726. Yes, his home was in Ireland, and his father's name was listed. Not from Ballymagirril, County Cavan. His admission record reads:

"Andrew Rutledge, son and heir of Thomas R [utledge], late of Callan, County Kilkenny, Ireland, esq., decd."

Callan, County Kilkenny is in the South of Ireland, about 65 miles Southwest of Dublin. It is an area settled by the English beginning with the Norman Conquest of Ireland in the eleventh century. The name of the father of Andrew Rutledge and his brother Dr. John Rutledge was Thomas Rutledge, the grandfather of the distinguished John and Edward Rutledge, founders and governors of the State of South Carolina and significant founders of the American Republic.

Andrew Rutledge was perhaps the first of the South Carolina members of the Middle Temple. His nephews, John, Edward, and Hugh, and others sons of South Carolina - including Charles Cotesworth Pinckney Charles Pinckney, Arthur Middleton, Thomas Lynch, Jr., and Thomas Heyward, Jr. - followed him to the Middle Temple for their legal education in London. Four of these South Carolina Middle Templars signed the Declaration of Independence.

The record of the admission of Andrew Rutledge, with his father's name and his birthplace, has been kept in the Library of the Middle Temple for 273 years. The riddle of the Rutledge Irish origins had finally been resolved.

Now we have reason to return to lovely Ireland to see what more we can uncover about the history of this fascinating and distinguished American patriot family. The County Cavan suggestion led us to the North, rather than the South, of Ireland. As many genealogists know, we learn by trial and

page 44 George Palmer Rutledge book Heritage Quest

George Rutledge 1811-1871 eldest son of George and mary Galbreath Rutledge
was converted at the age of 21 in Augusta Co. Virginia, and joined the
Methodist Church.
He commenced preaching three years later (1834) as a supply on the abingdon
circuit Baltimore, Maryland, Conference. the next year he was received on
trial at the Baltimore Conference and was immediately transfered to the Illinois
Conference where he served in the itinerant ministery for 37 years, Respected
and loved by all He died at his home in
Jacksonville, Illinois Sept 7 1871 at the age of 60 Years.
On June 1st 1837 he married Miss Ann Mathers a native of Empriskillen,
Ireland, she
with three daughters and 4 sons out of a family of 9 children wre left to
lement his departure. He was their light, taheir confort and stay. Amid all athe
interminable annoyances and vexations and privations of an itinerant life of
more than a score and a half of years, he possed his soul in patience. He
lived to see all of his children converted and members of the church.
He served as presiding elder of six different districts always with
acceptability, usefulness and superior efficiency.Three times the members of his
Conference honored him by electing him a delegate to the General Conference.

page 45 Edward Rutledge 1818-1894
Edward Rutledge the second son of George and Mary Galbreath was bon in
Augusta
Co.Virginia March 11 1818. He was converted at an early age and united with
the Methodist
church August 20 1832, In October of 1834 he came to Illinois with his
widowed mother.
ON April 30 1840 He married Miss Leah Harris who died March 18 1849. Early
in 1850
at Bellville, Illinois he was licensed to preach and in Sept 1850 he joined
the ILlinois Conference of the Methodist Church. During his pastorate at
Cloumbus, on July 8
1852 he was married to Miss Julia Fergus.
In 1861 he raised Company H. 3rd Reg. Illinois Cavalry, and while stationed
in the Ozark
mountains he became very ill, resigned and returned home. Soon he was so far
recovered
as to accept from Gov. Yates, the Chaplaincy of the 61st Regt. Illinois Inft.
with which he served until again his health failed, he was forced to resign.
Afterwards his work in the Conference was limited to three charges. Having
never really
recovered from the disabilities of Army Life, He asked for a superannuated
relation to the
Conference which he retained until his death on Dec 28, 1894 in Yates
Center, Kansas.

William J. Rutledge 1820-1900

At his home in Jacksonville, Illinois on Aprail 15 1900 the patriarch of the
Illinois Conference
Rev. William Johnson Rutledge passed to his heavenly regt. He was born in
Augusta Co.
Virginia June 24 1820 so at the time of his death he had not quite
compledted his 80 year.
He was Baptized in infancy and converted in Virginia when 12 years of age.
At 14 he was taken to Illinois by his mother , and three years later 1837 he
entered the school of the Prophets at Ebenezer.
In 1841 he entered the Illinois Conference. In 1891 he superaunnuated and
continued in that relation until the close of his life, a record of nearly 60
years in the itinerant minisetry, active until within his last 10 years
When the Civil War Broke out he enlisted in his Country's service was
appointed Chaplain of the famous 14th Regt Illinois Volunteers and served for three
years, from May 25 1861, to June 18 , 1864
He was the originator of the Order of the Grand Army of the Republic and was
as fond and proud of it as a parent is of a child.
He was twice married his first marriage was to Miss Lois Stratton on Sept 14
1843, they had
11 Children five of whom died in early childhood. Their daughter Emma lived
to Adult age, was married to M. Russell and died before her father. His second
marriage was to Miss Frances Emily Smith on May 6 1891. They had one child
Paul White Rutledge born April 2 1892.

Hi fellow Rutledge descendants,
My name is Bob Perry and this is my lineage:
   (1) Robert Mathew Perry, (2) Charles Gibson Perry II, (3) John Dietz Perry II, (4) Richard Earickson Perry married ((4) Elizabeth Rutledge Gibson))
(5) Charles Taylor Gibson, (6) Hugh Gibson married ((6) Elizabeth Brown Rutledge)),
(7) George Rutledge & Elizabeth Brown, (8) Thomas Rutledge & Jean Armstrong, (9) George Rutledge & Nellie Gamble.

The following is everything I have on George & Nellie (& it is'nt much):
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George Rutledge born in Scotland, removed to Ireland where he married Nellie Gamble and had a son William Rutledge; who was born Tyrone County, Ireland in 1728, and married Elinor Caldwell in Augusta County, VA.
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   Deed dated Mar. 21, 1759 - George Rutledge to Thomas Rutledge 220 acres in Beverley's Manor / Consideration L5    (Augusta Co., Records, 111, 354).
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(aol): George also said to have been born in Tyrone Co., IRE.
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1/07/1999 (Jim Ward.4-28-97.081919). (Source): Joseph Waddell's Annals of Augusta Co., VA., 1902. in Witchers Sullivan Co., TN.:
   Kin Nellie's father is identified as William Gamble, chief of one of the Highland Clans. Goes on to say that George Rutledge was in possesion of a large estate in Ireland as well as his wife's interest as daughter of William Gamble's. The information from this book does not give it's Source.

Can anyone enlighten me? Add or correct me etc...
I also have the following children for them:

Descendants of George Rutledge
    1 George Rutledge b: Abt. 1690 in Scottland
.. +Nellie Gamble
...... 2 Thomas Rutledge d: 10 Oct 1785 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: ?
.......... +Jean Armstrong b: in Tyrone Co., IRE.
...... 2 Catherine Rutledge
.......... +William Marshall
...... 2 William Rutledge b: Abt. 07 Jan 1727/28 in Tyrone Co., IRE. d: 16 Aug 1790 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: 62 est.
.......... +Eleanor Caldwell b: Abt. 1732
...... 2 John Rutledge d: 17 Oct 1751 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: ?

Am I connected to any of you?
Which of the DNA strands am I? (When I get the money I'm going to do it)

Thanks Bob

Thank you for all the help received gathering this information.
Was challrnged several months ago to compile a list of ?william.
Please update and correct the iincomplete information.
Challenge some one to start a list for George, and one for John.

1. Tyrone Ireland 1-7-1728 d. 1790 m. Elinor Caldwell 1751, immagrated 1763
2. Maryland         4-8-1769 d. 12-?-1817 Va. m. Mary
3. Prnc Grg Va.    5-9-1732 d. 1786 Surry co NC m. Mary Creson
4.                             1766                      m. Minerva Crockett
b. 12-16-1818 d.2-3-1886
5.w. Richard Grnbrr Va. 1786 d. 1862 m.1-26-1816 grnbrr Va m. Elizabeth
Williams
6.    NC                2-6-1790 d. 11-23-1864 m. Susannah Comeron b.
3-3-1790 Geo d. 9-8-1883
7. SC                        1796 d. 1862 m. 1814 Mary Williams b. 1797
d. 1869
8.                                                   m. 1816 WV Elizabeth
Williams
9. Richard W.        12-27-1816 Va d. 1889 Mo m. 10-23-1844 Mcdonough co IL
10.                                                             m.5-9-1843
Livingston Co Mo Coroline Holcomb

Thanks for all the help.
Who has entered a DNA, for any of the William's
Who are the rwlitives?

EDR

Hi Linda,

I have this in my files:

Source) Joseph Waddell's Annals of Augusta Co., VA., 1902. in Witchers
Sullivan Co., TN.:
Kin Nellie's father is identified as William Gamble, chief of one of the
Highland Clans. Goes on to say that George Rutledge was in possesion of a large
estate in Ireland as well as his wife's interest as daughter of William
Gamble's. The information from this book does not give it's Source.
Father: William GAMBLE
Marriage 1 George RUTLEDGE b: ABT 1690 in Scottland
Children
Thomas RUTLEDGE
Catherine RUTLEDGE
William RUTLEDGE b: ABT 7 JAN 1727/28 in Tyrone Co., IRE.
John RUTLEDGE

Not my line, but hope it helps!

Cyndi in Baltimore

While searching for information on the above I ran across Gamble section in book "The Descendants of John Grier" it starts with David Gamble of Graan b. 1679 son of Solomon Gamble and ?. He 5 children one of which was William of Duross. He in turn had a daughter Magdalen who was born near Enniskillen, County Fermanagh who married James Rutledge. I am sure that this family is related to Nelly. Does anyone have any information that will help me. I show Nelly's father as William but have no proof. If anyone would like this chapter on the Gamble I mentioned let me know and will send it as an attachment, it is in PDF format.
Jack

In a message dated 9/26/05 6:49:37 PM, [email protected] writes:

Edward Rutledge born 1725, Tyrone Ireland, son of Thomas Rutledge
Edward Rutledge died 18 FEb 1787 Flag Spring Augusta Va.
Married Sarah Armstrong 1750 in Augusta Co. Va. daughter of Thomas
Armstrong
children
Sarah Rutledge
Mary Rutledge
Lucy Rutledge
Rebecca Rutledge
John Rutledge
Rosanah Rutledge
George Rutledge
Family Tree Maker CD #2

There was also an eighth child, James Enos Rutledge (1768-1848), whose son
Elijah married the daughter (Rosannah) of the George in the list above. In other
words, Elijah and Rosannah were first cousins. Most of the family moved from
Flag Spring to Fulton County, Illinois about 1830 (I have the exact year
somewhere around here).

The Flag Spring home in Virginia is still standing, as I pointed out here
last year.

James Enos Rutledge was my GGG grandfather.

Peter in California

I thought you would like to read this bit about the four courts. I get a newsletter that publishes historical pieces. Here it is:

Remembering the Past: The shelling of the Four Courts - By Daithí Ó Riain

On 7 January 1922, Dail Éireann ratified the Treaty by 64 votes to 57. Those TDs who remained loyal to the Republic walked out of the chambers in protest. This included nearly all the female TDs. As a result, the national movement split and old comrades found themselves on opposite sides.

On 28 March, the Army held a General Convention. The IRA overwhelmingly rejected the Treaty and the authority of those who had accepted it. Óglaigh na hÉireann, now set up a 16-strong executive, as a sort of provisional government to run the Republic. They were: Liam Lynch, Rory O'Connor, Liam Mellows, Joe McKelvey, Ernie O'Malley, Seán Moylan, Frank Barret, Liam Deasy, Tom Hales, Tom Maguire, Joe O'Connor, Peader O'Donnell, Florrie O'Donoghue, Seán Hegarty, Séamus Robinson and PJ Rutledge.

Early on the morning of 13 April, Volunteers of Óglaigh na hÉireann led by Rory O'Connor, took control of the four courts. This would serve as HQ for the republicans.

The four courts were manned by 180 republican soldiers and the Executive Council. These men were willing to fight and die to defend the republic and were not about to let it be dismantled by a British Treaty.

For a time, the IRA and the Free Staters hoped a civil war could be avoided. These hopes were heightened when Rory O'Connor and Michael Collins, in a joint venture, began supplying IRA units in the Six Counties with arms so they could continue the offensive and drive the British out.

Until Sir Henry Wilson, military advisor to the Six-County establishment, was assassinated in London, hopes of success in the Northern campaign remained. But the British now saw their chance to end this unity and reverted to the old imperial policy of divide and conquer. Churchill demanded that Collins move against the IRA, threatening that if he didn't the British would.

In the face of this threat, instead of continuing the fight against the British, Collins gave in to their demands and ordered an attack on the Four Courts.

At twenty to three, the Free State forces, led by Tom Ennis and Emmet Dalton, ordered the Irish Republican Army to surrender. At seven minutes past four, using field artillery borrowed from their colonial masters, Free State forces began shelling the Four Courts from the corner of Bridgefoot Street and Ushers Quay.

These shots did not hit their target but instead landed in the HQ of the remaining British units in Ireland. (ironically, from where the guns had been borrowed). Collins' cronies continued the attack on the Four Courts every 15 minutes for three days.

At 9am on 28 June, Rory O'Connor issued the following statement through the republican paper Poblacht Na hÉireann:

9am, Wednesday, June 1928

At 3.40 this morning we received a note signed by Tom Ennis demanding on behalf of his 'Government' our surrender at 4am when he would attack. He opened attack at 4.07 in the name of his Government with Rifle, Machine and Field pieces.

THE BOYS ARE GLORIES, AND WILL FIGHT FOR THE REPUBLIC TILL THE END. HOW LONG WILL OUR MISGUIDED FORMER COMRADES OUTSIDE ATTACK THOSE WHO STAND FOR IRELAND ALONE?

Three casualties so far, all slight. Father Albert and Father Dominic with us here. Our love to all comrades outside and the brave boys especially of the Dublin Brigade.

(Signed) Rory O Connor,

Four Courts,

Major General, IRA.

During the fierce three-day fighting, three volunteers of the Irish Republican Army were killed on active service, Joe Considine, Séan Cusack, and Thomas Wall.

The shelling of the Four Courts marks the start of the Civil War, which served no one in Ireland. Instead, it played into a trap laid by England, for it allowed them to maintain a hold over Ireland while shifting the focus of republicans to a domestic enemy.

I know this has probably been here before, but just in case
Family Tree Maker CD #2

Archibald Rutledge born 1786 Ireland
wife Mary J. Caldwell born Ireland
had son William E. Rutledge born 1820 Newfoundland Canada
died 4 Dec 1894 Farmington Trumbull County Ohio
William E. married Elizabeth France 15 June 1854 Tuscarawas Co. Ohio
Elizabeth France born 13 Nov 1833 Ohio died 10 Jan 1919 Farmington, Trumbull
Co. Ohio
daughter of John France and Elizabeth Myers

William and Elizabeth ( France) Rutledge Children
Ellen J. born 11 April 1855 Union Tuscarawas Co. Ohio
died 1 Mar 1931 Canton Ohio married Levi Newton 12 Oct 1873 Tuscarawas Ohio

Cammilla Rutledge born 22 Mar 1857 Union Tuscarawas Co. Ohio
died Aug 23 1940 married 7 Sept 1878 Benjamin Robinett Tuscarawas, Ohio

Alice May Rutledge born 9 Jan 1863 Union twp Tuscarawas Co. Ohio
doed 6 Sept 1916 Cleveland Ohio
married 16 March 1884 Myron Bundy Trumbull Co. Ohio

Nora Florence Bell Rutledge born 19 Sept 1867 Union Tuscarawas Co. Ohio
died 10 April 1944 Trumbull Co. Ohio Married 17 Nov 1885 Trumbull Co. Ohio
John B. Cox

Edward Rutledge born 1725, Tyrone Ireland, son of Thomas Rutledge
Edward Rutledge died 18 FEb 1787 Flag Spring Augusta Va.
Married Sarah Armstrong 1750 in Augusta Co. Va. daughter of Thomas Armstrong
children
Sarah Rutledge
Mary Rutledge
Lucy Rutledge
Rebecca Rutledge
John Rutledge
Rosanah Rutledge
George Rutledge
Family Tree Maker CD #2

what connection to the Rutledge lines
1860 Davenport twp, Scott Co. Iowa census

Edward Rupel or Rapel age 29 born England
Lydia R. age 25 born England
Sarah E. age 2 born Iowa
Caroline Rutledge age 11 born Iowa

BALLINA CHRONICLE
Ballina, Mayo, Ireland
Wednesday, March 13, 1850

MAYO SPRING ASSIZES
On Wednesday last, at one o'clock, Charles Geo. Mahon, Esq, the High
Sheriff, entered the Crown Court, when the following long Panel was called over.
Those gentlemen having figures prefixed to their names having answered, were
sworn in the order in which they are placed. -

1 - Sir Robert Lynch Blosse, Bart., Athervallie, Foreman; Charles Lionel
Kirwan, Esq., Dalgan Park.
2 - Colonel Charles Knox. Castle Lackan
3 - Sir Wm O'Malley, Knt., Kilboyne House.
4 - Sir Richard A. O'Donnel, Bart, Newport House.
5 - Andrew Crean Lynch, Esq., Clogher House.
6 - Robert Rutledge, Esq., Blo??field; Denis Bingham, Esq, Bi????? Castle.
[prob. Bingham Castle?]
7 - Joseph Myles M'Donnell, Esq., Doo Castle; Robert Dillon Browne, Esq.,
M.P., Glencorrib; George H. Moore, Esq., M.P., Moore Hall; Lord James Browne,
Westport House; Hon. Geoffrey Browne, Castlemacgarrett; Hon. Theobald Dillon,
Loughglynn House; Hon. T.B. Yelverton, Hazlebrook; Sir Roger Palmer, Bart.,
Palmerstown; Sir Compton Domville, Bart, Prison; Thomas S. Lyndsey, Esq,
Holymount House.
8 - Colonel Arthur Knox Gore, Beleek Manor
9 - James H. Browne, Esq, Claremount; Annesley Knox, Esq; Rappa Castle; James
A. Browne, Esq; Browne-hall.
10 - Valentine O'Connor Blake, Esq, Tower Hill.
11 - John Knox, Esq, Castlerea.
12 - Mark Blake, Esq, Ballinafad; Mervyn Pratt, Esq, Ennicooe; James Knox
Gildea, Esq, Clooncormac; Oliver V. Jackson, Esq, Carramore; Colonel James
M'Alpine, Windsor House; Colonel T.G. Fitzgerald, Turlough Park; St. George
Cuffe, Esq, Deel Castle; General Sir R. Arbuthnot, Bart, Farm Hill.
13 - Henry Wm Knox, Esq, Netley Park; John Denis Browne, Esq, Mount Browne.
14 - Bernard M'Manus, Esq, Barley Bill.
15 - James Cuffe, Esq, Creagh.
16 - Captain Fitzgerald Higgins, Westport.
17 - Parsons Persse, Esq, Newbrook; Edmond H. Taaffe, Esq, Woodfield; John L.
Bucknally, Esq, Turin Castle
18 - Thomas Jones, Esq, Castletown
19 - George O'Malley, Esq, Newcastle
20 - John Christopher Garvey, Esq, Murrisk Abbey; Charles Blake, Esq, Spring
Hill; F.B. Knox, Esq, Spring Hill; Alexander Clendining, Esq, Westport; Dominick
Browne, Esq, Breaffey; Edmond G. Bell, Esq, Streamstown; John Cheevers, Esq,
Carnacon; Thomas Carter, Esq, Shean Lodge; Hercules S. Brabazon, Esq, Brabazon's
Park; F. Bourke, Esq, Carralea
21 - George Ormsby, Esq, Rochlands; William M. Fitzmaurice, Esq, Lagaturn;
John C. Walsh, Esq, Castlehill
22 - Charles Strickland, Esq, Loughglynn
23 - Major John Gardiner, Farm Hill; David Watson Rutledge, Esq, Annefield;
William Orme, Esq, Owenmore; John Knox, Esq, Greenwood; Austin F. Crean, Esq,
Ballinvilla; Robert Fair, Esq, Bushfield; Geoffrey Martyn, Esq, Curramore;
Charles O'Donnel, Esq, Ross; John Symes, Esq, Ballina; William Kearney, Esq,
Ballinvilla; Thomas Paget, Esq, Knockglass; George Rutledge, Esq, Togher, H.J.H.
Browne, Esq, Rehins; Fohn [sic John?] F. Knox, Esq, Mount Falcon; Thomas
Phillips, Esq, Clonmore House; Anthony Ormsby, Esq, Ballinamore; Thomas Ormsby,
Esq, Knockmore; Charles Lynch, Esq, Ballycurran Castle; Edward Howely, Esq,
Beleek Castle; Courtney Kenny, Esq, Ballinrobe; William B. Orme, Esq, Abbeytown;
Benjamin Jennings, Esq, Mount Jennings; Thomas Palmer, Esq, Summerhill; Edward
Orme, Esq, Ballycorroen; Martin D'Arcy, Esq, Houndswood; John Lynch, Esq,
Partry; William Atkinson, Esq, Carramore; Thomas Elwood, Esq,Strand Hill; Thomas
Palmer, Esq, Palmerstown; F.R. O'Grady, Esq, Tavrane; Charles Coyne, Esq,
Massbrock; Robert Kirkwood, Esq, Greenpark Lodge; William Malley, Esq, Ballina;
Edward Nolan, Esq, Logboy; Peter Tuohy, Esq, Oxford; John Bollingbroke, Esq,
Oldcastle; H.M. Blake, Esq, The Heath; J. Garvey, Esq, Tully.

Cathy Joynt Labath
Ireland Old News
http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/
http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Edward & Hannorah Rutledge
First Generation
1. Edward Rutledge was born in 1824 in County Fermanagh, Ireland.
He died in San Francisco, San Francisco, California.

Edward married Hannorah . Hannorah was born in 1834 in Ireland. She
died in San Francisco, San Francisco, California.

They had the following children:

2 F i. Sarah J. Rutledge was born in May 1854 in Stoughton, Norfolk,
Massachusetts. She died on 8 Jul 1933 in San Francisco, San Francisco,
California.

3 M ii. Thomas Martin Rutledge was born in Mar 1856 in Stoughton,
Norfolk, Massachusetts. He died on 5 Nov 1905 in San Francisco,
San Francisco, California.

+ 4 M iii. Edward James Rutledge was born in Sep 1858. He died on
6 Apr 1932.

5 F iv. Paulina Mary Rutledge was born in Oct 1863 in Stoughton,
Norfolk, Massachusetts. She died on 19 May 1923 in San Francisco,
San Francisco, California.

+ 6 F v. Nora Rutledge was born in 1864.

Second Generation

4. Edward James Rutledge (Edward) was born in Sep 1858 in Stoughton,
Norfolk, Massachusetts. He died on 6 Apr 1932 in San Francisco,
San Francisco, California.

Edward married Mary E. Fay daughter of Michael Fay and Jane in 1885
in California. Mary was born in Sep 1868 in San Francisco, San Francisco,
California.

They had the following children:

7 i. Rutledge was born in 1886 in San Francisco, San Francisco,
California. Rutledge died before 1900 in San Francisco, San Francisco,
California.

8 ii. Rutledge was born in 1887 in San Francisco, San Francisco,
California. Rutledge died before 1900 in San Francisco, San Francisco,
California.

9 F iii. Ella Rutledge was born in May 1888 in San Francisco, San
Francisco, California.

10 F iv. Madeline Rutledge was born in Oct 1893 in San Francisco,
San Francisco, California.

11 M v. Edward Rutledge was born in 1901 in San Francisco, San
Francisco, California.

6. Nora Rutledge (Edward) was born in 1864 in Stoughton, Norfolk,
Massachusetts.

She had the following children:

+ 12 M i. Samuel William Piercy was born on 20 Aug 1883. He died
on 10 Nov 1960.

Third Generation

12. Samuel William Piercy (Nora Rutledge, Edward) was born on 20
Aug 1883 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California. He died on
10 Nov 1960 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California. He was buried
in Holy Cross Cemetery, San Francisco, San Francisco, California.

Samuel married Madeline A. Pluth daughter of Pluth and Golobic in
1907 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California. Madeline was born
on 20 Apr 1889 in , , California. She died on 16 Sep 1987 in Sonoma,
Sonoma, California.

They had the following children:

13 F i. Agnes Honoria Piercy was born on 26 Sep 1908 in San Francisco,
San Francisco, California. She died on 20 Apr 1978 in Sonoma, Sonoma,
California.
Agnes married Lopez .

...........................................

Would like to hear from other RUTLEDGE relatives about this family.

Tom

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My info is quite skimpy on the Elliotts. They apparently came together
from the Kinawley area to Carleton county Ontario Canada in 1831. The only
Elliott that I know of (other than the story that the families came
together) is Margaret Elliott born 25 Jan 1809 in Fermangh county. From a
GEDCOM file from a cousin I have:

Margaret Elliott came to Canada with her husband Edward Rutledge in 1831 to
Goulbourne Twp. where they stayed 4 years before moving to Bastard Twp.
where they stayed 16 years. They then moved to Artimesia, where she
died. She was survived by her husband and 10 children (from the Christian
Guardian newspaper).

Margaret married Edward Rutledge in 1829 before coming to Canada. She died
23 Feb 1870 in Artemesia township, Grey county, Ontario, Canada. I don't
have any more info on other Elliotts of that family. Edward (1808-1882) is
a younger brother of my gggrandfather Thomas Rutledge (1802-1883).

Cheers
--Chris Irvine

At 11:31 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote:
Chris,
   Your Rutledge family who travelled to Canada with a family of
   ELLIOTTS.
   Could you please tell me who this ELLIOTT family were and where
   they came from????
   After more than ten years constant research I still can't find
   where my Elliott family came from in Fermanagh and where they
   emigrated to. I was always told there was a Rutledge connection.
   Maybe this is it!!!!!
   Fingers crossed!
   Thanks,
   Carole.

With your permission I will post your message to the Rutledge mail list. One
of our cousins has a Cole and a Rutledge in her line.

Thanks for your input.

Don Kelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Beacom" <[email protected]
To: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)

Dear Don,

My great great grandfather was John Beacom, in 1851 he married Mary
Rutledge. I believe her parents were James & Margaret Rutledge. Mary had
come from Derryhoney, Parish of Cleenish which is a hop skip and a jump
from
Lisbellaw where John was born. My Beacom cousins live in Lisbellaw and I
have visited them once and I am returning this coming May.

Anyways Mary and John had several children. Only one came to Canada in
1913, that being my great grandfather. John died at the age of 49 on July
25, 1876 from and Mary lived until the 17th of November, 1914. Her son
James Beacom had taken over the family farm in Lisbellaw.

I would have to imagine that there is a good possibility that our Rutleges
are related and possibly that Mary is one of the sisters or first cousin
to
the Rutledge that married the Cole.

What do you think. My Beacoms were all 2nd class in their day since they
all owned there own farms so they had a few bucks if that is what you
would
call it. I was surprised to find that they actually didn't live in
poverty
in their time. My father never really understood why his grandfather had
left N.Ireland since he ran his own pub and sold spirits.

Let me know what you think. I will visit the Tempo graveyard when I go
back
because I still have not found the graves of John and Mary Beacom. James
her eldest is buried in the Lisbellaw church yard.

Hope to talk to you soon
Laura
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)

Greetings Fermanagh listers. Researchers often ask enquire of my familial
interests in Fermanagh. Generally is is surnames Owen and Rutledge who
live
long ago in Fermanagh and Tyrone.

Like my crazy Rutledhe cousins, we can make up our minds to which of our
sets of 4gparents we want to concentrate on finding, so we follow the
clues
on the ancestors of the week.

Enniskillen comes up regularly on this list so I have a story from four
of
my Rutledge cousins who visited that area last year. It would be
fortuitous
if any of you had the same ancestors in the same area.

Our visit to Enniskillen: Its a very long story so if anyone is
interested
I'll write the other four chapters offlist.

Don Kelly
==============================
Chapter I (prelude)

What a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing it!!!!!
Marcia in CA
On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:18 AM, Jan Roggy wrote:

Oh, aren't we the witty one this morning!!!! That was good Ron. I
found her on ancestry.com last night as Hext, but there was no parents
listed. Becoming a Rutledge couldn't have been a hex(t) nor a hert! It
had to have been the best thing that ever happened in her life! I
think we all need someone to research for us in Fermanaugh Co. Maybe
that is the link we're all waiting for! This might be a good time to
share a story that my cousin shared with me. She, her 2 sisters and
another cousin went to Ireland last fall, and shared this when they
got home.

Helen - Jean and Carol told me to write to you to tell you about our
Rutledge event on our trip to Ireland. Since it has taken me more
than two weeks to do it, they may have gotten disgusted and already
written to you, or perhaps Patty has told you.   But here is my
version of our Rutledge encounter.

We four were staying in Enniskillen in County Fermanagh in Northern
Ireland. We had gone there on purpose because we had read and been
told that our Rutledge ancestors came from that area. Enniskillen is
a pleasant medium-sized town on rolling land with several lakes. We
enjoyed that area so much that we stayed over an extra day. Among the
attractions there is a large estate kept up by the National Trust of
Great Britain named Florence Court. It was named after a Florence
Cole so we most definitely visited it. We learned that the Cole
family settled there during the "plantation period" of Northern Irish
history. Some of us (namely me) didn't know that the British were
setting up plantations in Northern Ireland at about the same time as
they were establishing them in Virginia.          (I'm going to
interject here.... Florence Rutledge was my grandfather's sister, and
she married William C. Cole, thus the Florence Cole connection)

But you are thinking that I am writing about the Coles and not the
Rutledges, I imagine. Never fear...

Near Enniskillen is the village of Lisbellow. We all thought that
might be the actual locale of the Rutledge group. We all knew we had
heard of it. It seemed likely to us that people in the old days might
have said that they were from Enniskillen since that was the larger
city just a few miles away.
In any event we decided to drive to Lisbellow and "raise our glasses"
in the pub there in honor of our ancestors.

When we got to Lisbellow late one afternoon, we couldn't find the pub!
That is unheard of in any Irish settlement so we were going to turn
around and try the main street one more time. Lisbellow is really
quite small. To turn around I pulled into the driveway of a man
mowing his yard. Carol jumped out of the car and said to the man,
"Where is the pub? " He thought she was a bit odd and was more than a
little startled to suddenly be faced with an American woman in his
yard. He said something like, "Why do you want a pub?" Carol said,
"We are going to toast our ancestors whom we think came from
Lisbellow." The man told Carol that he couldn't recommend the local
pub so Carol was getting back in the car when he called to her and
said, "What is your family's name?" Carol said, "Rutledge, but they
left years ago." He said, "Well, I know where the Rutledges live."
He proceeded to give Carol directions to a country road east of the
village a mile or two.

So we couldn't resist. We headed out that way, found the corner he
had described and started down this country lane. We got to a house
that we thought was at the end of the road because the road looked
even narrower past the house's barn and it was all covered in mud. So
I stopped and, somewhat to my surprise, Patty jumped out of the car
and went up to the house and started knocking on the doors (both front
and back) and peeking in the windows. Finally a lady came out of the
house and Patty asked her if her name was Rutledge. "Oh, you want Jim
and Nora," she said. "They are at the end of the road." She pointed
down the muddy lane.

Well, "in for a penny, in for a pound," so we continued down the lane
which really was the road. It was paved under the mud.

Soon we came to a farmyard. It had a nice house with a pretty garden
at one end and barns on the other three sides, forming a courtyard
covered in cobblestones. Two boys about 10 years old were kicking a
soccer ball around. I rolled down my car window and said to the one
that was closest, "Is your name Rutledge?" His eyes popped out of his
head at the sight of four American women suddenly appearing in what
turned out to be his grandparents barnyard way out in the countryside.
   However, he nodded, "yes, my name is Rutledge." (The other boy
informed us that his name was not Rutledge.)

I asked the boy if he thought his grandmother would talk with us and
both he and his friend assured us that she was very nice. So Carol
and I got out of the car and went up to her door. (Much to my
surprise Jean was embarrassed by all of this and at first wouldn't get
out of the car.)
We knocked and a sweet, tiny lady in her late 70's appeared. When she
made out what we were saying through our funny accents, she said,
"I'll have to go get Jim!"

She went into one of the barns and we heard a loud conversation as she
tried to explain to Jim (who wasn't wearing his hearing aids we
learned) that there were four American women in their yard who wanted
to talk to him. Then Jim appeared, probably 80, with a big smile and
hands that had seen many years of hard work. He apologized for his
appearance as he had been "tending to calves."

Jim finally realized that all of us were Rutledges. He seemed quite
pleased and he and Nora told us that we really should go see his
brother in the next village, Tempo. His brother knew more about the
family. However Jim did know that three Rutledge brothers came
together from Scotland into Ireland and settled that area. Also, Jim
told us that his family plot was in the Tempo churchyard.

So we said goodbye, thanking them so very much for their friendliness.
We didn't go see his brother because it was getting dark and we all
realized that none of us knew by heart exactly what Rutledge had come
from Northern Ireland and when, so we couldn't ask good questions.
However, the next morning we did go to the Tempo churchyard and there
the Rutledges were back three generations as I recall. Probably
Jim's grandfather. Carol and Patty, I think, wrote down the
information on the stones.
Of course, we don't know that these were the right branch of the
Rutledge family at all. But we have some sources of information from
that area that we are going to pursue and the whole experience was
just lovely.

-Mary

Very interesting. I also have Rutledge's but not sure where in Ireland they
came from. My group is James Rutledge b. 1754 Ireland and married Jane
Foster there children where:
John b. 1784 Ireland
Thomas b. 1787 Ireland
William b. 1789 married Mary Scarlott
James Westley b. 1792 Washington Co. Pa.
Edward b. 1795 Washington Co. Pa
Simeon b. 1800 Washington Co. Pa.
Jane b. 1803 Washington Co. Pa. married George Forster in Jefferson Co. Oh.

Have wondered if Jane Foster last name should be Forster?
Any connection with your groups?
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "C Irvine" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)

My Rutledges definitely came from the Kinawley area south of Enniskillen.
Hugh Rutledge (1775-1826) is listed in the Kinawley parish registers as
transcribed by Ruth (Rutledge) Gregson (and on Vynette Sage's CD). There
were 14 children of which one died young, one married a George Hanna (and
stayed) and the rest came to Canada in the 1830's with a family of
Elliots. I am descended from Thomas Rutledge(1802-1883).

I see in the freeholders lists that there are a number of likely relatives
there in 1747. Its possible that this Rutledge line goes back to an
Edward Rutlidge who was granted land as a servitor in the early 1600's
(http://www.angelfire.com/my/tray/ulster-3.htm).

Cheers
--Chris Irvine

At 08:39 PM 4/10/2005, you wrote:
Greetings Fermanagh listers. Researchers often ask enquire of my familial
interests in Fermanagh. Generally is is surnames Owen and Rutledge who
live long ago in Fermanagh and Tyrone.

Like my crazy Rutledhe cousins, we can make up our minds to which of our
sets of 4gparents we want to concentrate on finding, so we follow the
clues on the ancestors of the week.

Enniskillen comes up regularly on this list so I have a story from four of
my Rutledge cousins who visited that area last year. It would be
fortuitous if any of you had the same ancestors in the same area.

Our visit to Enniskillen: Its a very long story so if anyone is interested
I'll write the other four chapters offlist.

Don Kelly
==============================
Chapter I (prelude)

What a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing it!!!!!
Marcia in CA
On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:18 AM, Jan Roggy wrote:

Oh, aren't we the witty one this morning!!!! That was good Ron. I
found her on ancestry.com last night as Hext, but there was no parents
listed. Becoming a Rutledge couldn't have been a hex(t) nor a hert! It
had to have been the best thing that ever happened in her life! I
think we all need someone to research for us in Fermanaugh Co. Maybe
that is the link we're all waiting for! This might be a good time to
share a story that my cousin shared with me. She, her 2 sisters and
another cousin went to Ireland last fall, and shared this when they
got home.

Helen - Jean and Carol told me to write to you to tell you about our
Rutledge event on our trip to Ireland. Since it has taken me more
than two weeks to do it, they may have gotten disgusted and already
written to you, or perhaps Patty has told you. But here is my
version of our Rutledge encounter.

We four were staying in Enniskillen in County Fermanagh in Northern
Ireland. We had gone there on purpose because we had read and been
told that our Rutledge ancestors came from that area. Enniskillen is
a pleasant medium-sized town on rolling land with several lakes. We
enjoyed that area so much that we stayed over an extra day. Among the
attractions there is a large estate kept up by the National Trust of
Great Britain named Florence Court. It was named after a Florence
Cole so we most definitely visited it. We learned that the Cole
family settled there during the "plantation period" of Northern Irish
history. Some of us (namely me) didn't know that the British were
setting up plantations in Northern Ireland at about the same time as
they were establishing them in Virginia. (I'm going to
interject here.... Florence Rutledge was my grandfather's sister, and
she married William C. Cole, thus the Florence Cole connection)

But you are thinking that I am writing about the Coles and not the
Rutledges, I imagine. Never fear...

Near Enniskillen is the village of Lisbellow. We all thought that
might be the actual locale of the Rutledge group. We all knew we had
heard of it. It seemed likely to us that people in the old days might
have said that they were from Enniskillen since that was the larger
city just a few miles away.
In any event we decided to drive to Lisbellow and "raise our glasses"
in the pub there in honor of our ancestors.

When we got to Lisbellow late one afternoon, we couldn't find the pub!
That is unheard of in any Irish settlement so we were going to turn
around and try the main street one more time. Lisbellow is really
quite small. To turn around I pulled into the driveway of a man
mowing his yard. Carol jumped out of the car and said to the man,
"Where is the pub? " He thought she was a bit odd and was more than a
little startled to suddenly be faced with an American woman in his
yard. He said something like, "Why do you want a pub?" Carol said,
"We are going to toast our ancestors whom we think came from
Lisbellow." The man told Carol that he couldn't recommend the local
pub so Carol was getting back in the car when he called to her and
said, "What is your family's name?" Carol said, "Rutledge, but they
left years ago." He said, "Well, I know where the Rutledges live."
He proceeded to give Carol directions to a country road east of the
village a mile or two.

So we couldn't resist. We headed out that way, found the corner he
had described and started down this country lane. We got to a house
that we thought was at the end of the road because the road looked
even narrower past the house's barn and it was all covered in mud. So
I stopped and, somewhat to my surprise, Patty jumped out of the car
and went up to the house and started knocking on the doors (both front
and back) and peeking in the windows. Finally a lady came out of the
house and Patty asked her if her name was Rutledge. "Oh, you want Jim
and Nora," she said. "They are at the end of the road." She pointed
down the muddy lane.

Well, "in for a penny, in for a pound," so we continued down the lane
which really was the road. It was paved under the mud.

Soon we came to a farmyard. It had a nice house with a pretty garden
at one end and barns on the other three sides, forming a courtyard
covered in cobblestones. Two boys about 10 years old were kicking a
soccer ball around. I rolled down my car window and said to the one
that was closest, "Is your name Rutledge?" His eyes popped out of his
head at the sight of four American women suddenly appearing in what
turned out to be his grandparents barnyard way out in the countryside.
However, he nodded, "yes, my name is Rutledge." (The other boy
informed us that his name was not Rutledge.)

I asked the boy if he thought his grandmother would talk with us and
both he and his friend assured us that she was very nice. So Carol
and I got out of the car and went up to her door. (Much to my
surprise Jean was embarrassed by all of this and at first wouldn't get
out of the car.)
We knocked and a sweet, tiny lady in her late 70's appeared. When she
made out what we were saying through our funny accents, she said,
"I'll have to go get Jim!"

She went into one of the barns and we heard a loud conversation as she
tried to explain to Jim (who wasn't wearing his hearing aids we
learned) that there were four American women in their yard who wanted
to talk to him. Then Jim appeared, probably 80, with a big smile and
hands that had seen many years of hard work. He apologized for his
appearance as he had been "tending to calves."

Jim finally realized that all of us were Rutledges. He seemed quite
pleased and he and Nora told us that we really should go see his
brother in the next village, Tempo. His brother knew more about the
family. However Jim did know that three Rutledge brothers came
together from Scotland into Ireland and settled that area. Also, Jim
told us that his family plot was in the Tempo churchyard.

So we said goodbye, thanking them so very much for their friendliness.
We didn't go see his brother because it was getting dark and we all
realized that none of us knew by heart exactly what Rutledge had come
from Northern Ireland and when, so we couldn't ask good questions.
However, the next morning we did go to the Tempo churchyard and there
the Rutledges were back three generations as I recall. Probably
Jim's grandfather. Carol and Patty, I think, wrote down the
information on the stones.
Of course, we don't know that these were the right branch of the
Rutledge family at all. But we have some sources of information from
that area that we are going to pursue and the whole experience was
just lovely.

-Mary

This is the email that a researcher sent me on the adopted John Rutledge.
Of course I cannot verify any of it, but I feel that the obit should be some
form of credible documentation. It seems like there was someone that was having
trouble with connecting their DNA's to the right Rutledge line and thought
this may be the reason why. This will also help with the time frame. Here is
what was wrote to me.

In 1852 Joseph and Jane Lytle Gwynne came to N. Orleans from their home in
Dromore, Tyrone Co. Ireland aboard the ship, Huntress. With them were 6 chil
dren. One, Robert Gwynn, was my Gr. Grandfather. A year earlier in 1851, an
older son, Wm. and wife Sarah Stewart who had married in 1850 came to the U. S.
aboard the R. D. Shepherd. All these settled in Pike Co. Il.

Wm and Sarah had 5 children: 1. Wm. born 1852 2. Rebecca b. 1853
3. Elizabeth b. 1856 4. JOHN b. 1858 5. Sarah b. 1860 (have no info. on
her.)
Sarah, the mother, died in 1860. I'm not sure who raised these
children--just lived here and there I'm told. Maybe that is why JOHN was adopted by the
Rutledge family. Their father, Wm., married again in 1862 to Ann Eliz. Hale.
They had 4 children. 1. Robt. b 1865 2. Ann E. 1867 3. Benjamin Franklin
b. 1869 and 4. Margaret b. 1871. The father, Wm. died in 1874. This 2nd.
wife married again and had 1 child, Zilpha Miller. The first group of Wm's
children remained in the mid west, but the 2nd. moved west to Wash. St. etc. and
changed their name to Gwin.

The first son of Wm. and Sarah Stewart was Wm. He married Sarah Dolbow and
lived in IL and Ohio. Rebecca never married, but cared for an uncle in later
years until he died in Logan Co. IL. John was adopted by the Rutledge family
and at the time of Rebecca's death in 1931 he was living in Attica, Fountain
Co., IN. Elizabeth married John Swanson and lived in Vermillion Co. IL. Her
stone in the Hoopeston Cem. Vermillion Co., says 1856-1925.

At the present I'm trying to get info for my Guynn book about Eliz Swanson
and John Rutledge. (Wish I could find the name of this John Rutledge's wife
who lived in Attica and names of his children- that might answer questions for
both of us.)

Some of the things that I have which you might be interested in, if indeed we
are from the same line are:
Picture of Gwynne home in Dromore Ireland , Some family pedigree charts,
Ship passenger lists, Grave stone pictures for Joseph and Jane, Rebecca, and
Eliz Swanson.

Here is part of Rebecca's obit. Miss Rebecca Gwinn 79, formerly a
resident of the Beason IL. community died at Deaconess hosp. this a.m. after an
illness that caused her to enter the hosp. 3 wks. ago. She was born Nov. 1,
1852 in Pike Co. and more than 20 yrs. ago went to Beason to live with her uncle
the late John Gwinn, who left her his property at his death. Surviving is a
bro., John Rutledge, living at Attica, IN. Their parents died when they were
quite young, and John Gwinn was legally adopted by a family named Rutledge.
Miss Gwinn is also survived by nearly a score of nephews and nieces and
cousins.- (I see her birth yr. is not what I had said earlier).

I also have Rutledges in my line. My great great grandfather John Beacom
from Lisbellaw married Mary Rutledge, daughter of James Rutledge, a farmer,
in Nov of 1851. Mary was from Derryhoney. John(b.1831) died in Lisbellaw
inn 1876 four years after my great grandfather was born. He was 49. Mary
(b.1833)
died in 1914 in Lisbellaw

Laura Beacom

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean Scarlott" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)

Very interesting. I also have Rutledge's but not sure where in Ireland
they
came from. My group is James Rutledge b. 1754 Ireland and married Jane
Foster there children where:
John b. 1784 Ireland
Thomas b. 1787 Ireland
William b. 1789 married Mary Scarlott
James Westley b. 1792 Washington Co. Pa.
Edward b. 1795 Washington Co. Pa
Simeon b. 1800 Washington Co. Pa.
Jane b. 1803 Washington Co. Pa. married George Forster in Jefferson Co.
Oh.

Have wondered if Jane Foster last name should be Forster?
Any connection with your groups?
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "C Irvine" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)

My Rutledges definitely came from the Kinawley area south of
Enniskillen.
Hugh Rutledge (1775-1826) is listed in the Kinawley parish registers as
transcribed by Ruth (Rutledge) Gregson (and on Vynette Sage's CD).
There
were 14 children of which one died young, one married a George Hanna
(and
stayed) and the rest came to Canada in the 1830's with a family of
Elliots. I am descended from Thomas Rutledge(1802-1883).

I see in the freeholders lists that there are a number of likely
relatives
there in 1747. Its possible that this Rutledge line goes back to an
Edward Rutlidge who was granted land as a servitor in the early 1600's
(http://www.angelfire.com/my/tray/ulster-3.htm).

Cheers
--Chris Irvine

At 08:39 PM 4/10/2005, you wrote:
Greetings Fermanagh listers. Researchers often ask enquire of my
familial
interests in Fermanagh. Generally is is surnames Owen and Rutledge who
live long ago in Fermanagh and Tyrone.

Like my crazy Rutledhe cousins, we can make up our minds to which of our
sets of 4gparents we want to concentrate on finding, so we follow the
clues on the ancestors of the week.

Enniskillen comes up regularly on this list so I have a story from four
of
my Rutledge cousins who visited that area last year. It would be
fortuitous if any of you had the same ancestors in the same area.

Our visit to Enniskillen: Its a very long story so if anyone is
interested
I'll write the other four chapters offlist.

Don Kelly
==============================
Chapter I (prelude)

What a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing it!!!!!
Marcia in CA
On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:18 AM, Jan Roggy wrote:

Oh, aren't we the witty one this morning!!!! That was good Ron. I
found her on ancestry.com last night as Hext, but there was no parents
listed. Becoming a Rutledge couldn't have been a hex(t) nor a hert! It
had to have been the best thing that ever happened in her life! I
think we all need someone to research for us in Fermanaugh Co. Maybe
that is the link we're all waiting for! This might be a good time to
share a story that my cousin shared with me. She, her 2 sisters and
another cousin went to Ireland last fall, and shared this when they
got home.

Helen - Jean and Carol told me to write to you to tell you about our
Rutledge event on our trip to Ireland. Since it has taken me more
than two weeks to do it, they may have gotten disgusted and already
written to you, or perhaps Patty has told you.   But here is my
version of our Rutledge encounter.

We four were staying in Enniskillen in County Fermanagh in Northern
Ireland. We had gone there on purpose because we had read and been
told that our Rutledge ancestors came from that area. Enniskillen is
a pleasant medium-sized town on rolling land with several lakes. We
enjoyed that area so much that we stayed over an extra day. Among the
attractions there is a large estate kept up by the National Trust of
Great Britain named Florence Court. It was named after a Florence
Cole so we most definitely visited it. We learned that the Cole
family settled there during the "plantation period" of Northern Irish
history. Some of us (namely me) didn't know that the British were
setting up plantations in Northern Ireland at about the same time as
they were establishing them in Virginia.          (I'm going to
interject here.... Florence Rutledge was my grandfather's sister, and
she married William C. Cole, thus the Florence Cole connection)

But you are thinking that I am writing about the Coles and not the
Rutledges, I imagine. Never fear...

Near Enniskillen is the village of Lisbellow. We all thought that
might be the actual locale of the Rutledge group. We all knew we had
heard of it. It seemed likely to us that people in the old days might
have said that they were from Enniskillen since that was the larger
city just a few miles away.
In any event we decided to drive to Lisbellow and "raise our glasses"
in the pub there in honor of our ancestors.

When we got to Lisbellow late one afternoon, we couldn't find the pub!
That is unheard of in any Irish settlement so we were going to turn
around and try the main street one more time. Lisbellow is really
quite small. To turn around I pulled into the driveway of a man
mowing his yard. Carol jumped out of the car and said to the man,
"Where is the pub? " He thought she was a bit odd and was more than a
little startled to suddenly be faced with an American woman in his
yard. He said something like, "Why do you want a pub?" Carol said,
"We are going to toast our ancestors whom we think came from
Lisbellow." The man told Carol that he couldn't recommend the local
pub so Carol was getting back in the car when he called to her and
said, "What is your family's name?" Carol said, "Rutledge, but they
left years ago." He said, "Well, I know where the Rutledges live."
He proceeded to give Carol directions to a country road east of the
village a mile or two.

So we couldn't resist. We headed out that way, found the corner he
had described and started down this country lane. We got to a house
that we thought was at the end of the road because the road looked
even narrower past the house's barn and it was all covered in mud. So
I stopped and, somewhat to my surprise, Patty jumped out of the car
and went up to the house and started knocking on the doors (both front
and back) and peeking in the windows. Finally a lady came out of the
house and Patty asked her if her name was Rutledge. "Oh, you want Jim
and Nora," she said. "They are at the end of the road." She pointed
down the muddy lane.

Well, "in for a penny, in for a pound," so we continued down the lane
which really was the road. It was paved under the mud.

Soon we came to a farmyard. It had a nice house with a pretty garden
at one end and barns on the other three sides, forming a courtyard
covered in cobblestones. Two boys about 10 years old were kicking a
soccer ball around. I rolled down my car window and said to the one
that was closest, "Is your name Rutledge?" His eyes popped out of his
head at the sight of four American women suddenly appearing in what
turned out to be his grandparents barnyard way out in the countryside.
   However, he nodded, "yes, my name is Rutledge." (The other boy
informed us that his name was not Rutledge.)

I asked the boy if he thought his grandmother would talk with us and
both he and his friend assured us that she was very nice. So Carol
and I got out of the car and went up to her door. (Much to my
surprise Jean was embarrassed by all of this and at first wouldn't get
out of the car.)
We knocked and a sweet, tiny lady in her late 70's appeared. When she
made out what we were saying through our funny accents, she said,
"I'll have to go get Jim!"

She went into one of the barns and we heard a loud conversation as she
tried to explain to Jim (who wasn't wearing his hearing aids we
learned) that there were four American women in their yard who wanted
to talk to him. Then Jim appeared, probably 80, with a big smile and
hands that had seen many years of hard work. He apologized for his
appearance as he had been "tending to calves."

Jim finally realized that all of us were Rutledges. He seemed quite
pleased and he and Nora told us that we really should go see his
brother in the next village, Tempo. His brother knew more about the
family. However Jim did know that three Rutledge brothers came
together from Scotland into Ireland and settled that area. Also, Jim
told us that his family plot was in the Tempo churchyard.

So we said goodbye, thanking them so very much for their friendliness.
We didn't go see his brother because it was getting dark and we all
realized that none of us knew by heart exactly what Rutledge had come
from Northern Ireland and when, so we couldn't ask good questions.
However, the next morning we did go to the Tempo churchyard and there
the Rutledges were back three generations as I recall. Probably
Jim's grandfather. Carol and Patty, I think, wrote down the
information on the stones.
Of course, we don't know that these were the right branch of the
Rutledge family at all. But we have some sources of information from
that area that we are going to pursue and the whole experience was
just lovely.

-Mary

My Rutledges definitely came from the Kinawley area south of
Enniskillen. Hugh Rutledge (1775-1826) is listed in the Kinawley parish
registers as transcribed by Ruth (Rutledge) Gregson (and on Vynette Sage's
CD). There were 14 children of which one died young, one married a George
Hanna (and stayed) and the rest came to Canada in the 1830's with a family
of Elliots. I am descended from Thomas Rutledge(1802-1883).

I see in the freeholders lists that there are a number of likely relatives
there in 1747. Its possible that this Rutledge line goes back to an Edward
Rutlidge who was granted land as a servitor in the early 1600's
(http://www.angelfire.com/my/tray/ulster-3.htm).

Cheers
--Chris Irvine

What a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing it!!!!!
Marcia in CA
On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:18 AM, Jan Roggy wrote:

Oh, aren't we the witty one this morning!!!! That was good Ron. I
found her on ancestry.com last night as Hext, but there was no parents
listed. Becoming a Rutledge couldn't have been a hex(t) nor a hert! It
had to have been the best thing that ever happened in her life! I
think we all need someone to research for us in Fermanaugh Co. Maybe
that is the link we're all waiting for! This might be a good time to
share a story that my cousin shared with me. She, her 2 sisters and
another cousin went to Ireland last fall, and shared this when they
got home.

Helen - Jean and Carol told me to write to you to tell you about our
Rutledge event on our trip to Ireland. Since it has taken me more
than two weeks to do it, they may have gotten disgusted and already
written to you, or perhaps Patty has told you.   But here is my
version of our Rutledge encounter.

We four were staying in Enniskillen in County Fermanagh in Northern
Ireland. We had gone there on purpose because we had read and been
told that our Rutledge ancestors came from that area. Enniskillen is
a pleasant medium-sized town on rolling land with several lakes. We
enjoyed that area so much that we stayed over an extra day. Among the
attractions there is a large estate kept up by the National Trust of
Great Britain named Florence Court. It was named after a Florence
Cole so we most definitely visited it. We learned that the Cole
family settled there during the "plantation period" of Northern Irish
history. Some of us (namely me) didn't know that the British were
setting up plantations in Northern Ireland at about the same time as
they were establishing them in Virginia.          (I'm going to
interject here.... Florence Rutledge was my grandfather's sister, and
she married William C. Cole, thus the Florence Cole connection)

But you are thinking that I am writing about the Coles and not the
Rutledges, I imagine. Never fear...

Near Enniskillen is the village of Lisbellow. We all thought that
might be the actual locale of the Rutledge group. We all knew we had
heard of it. It seemed likely to us that people in the old days might
have said that they were from Enniskillen since that was the larger
city just a few miles away.
In any event we decided to drive to Lisbellow and "raise our glasses"
in the pub there in honor of our ancestors.

When we got to Lisbellow late one afternoon, we couldn't find the pub!
That is unheard of in any Irish settlement so we were going to turn
around and try the main street one more time. Lisbellow is really
quite small. To turn around I pulled into the driveway of a man
mowing his yard. Carol jumped out of the car and said to the man,
"Where is the pub? " He thought she was a bit odd and was more than a
little startled to suddenly be faced with an American woman in his
yard. He said something like, "Why do you want a pub?" Carol said,
"We are going to toast our ancestors whom we think came from
Lisbellow." The man told Carol that he couldn't recommend the local
pub so Carol was getting back in the car when he called to her and
said, "What is your family's name?" Carol said, "Rutledge, but they
left years ago." He said, "Well, I know where the Rutledges live."
He proceeded to give Carol directions to a country road east of the
village a mile or two.

So we couldn't resist. We headed out that way, found the corner he
had described and started down this country lane. We got to a house
that we thought was at the end of the road because the road looked
even narrower past the house's barn and it was all covered in mud. So
I stopped and, somewhat to my surprise, Patty jumped out of the car
and went up to the house and started knocking on the doors (both front
and back) and peeking in the windows. Finally a lady came out of the
house and Patty asked her if her name was Rutledge. "Oh, you want Jim
and Nora," she said. "They are at the end of the road." She pointed
down the muddy lane.

Well, "in for a penny, in for a pound," so we continued down the lane
which really was the road. It was paved under the mud.

Soon we came to a farmyard. It had a nice house with a pretty garden
at one end and barns on the other three sides, forming a courtyard
covered in cobblestones. Two boys about 10 years old were kicking a
soccer ball around. I rolled down my car window and said to the one
that was closest, "Is your name Rutledge?" His eyes popped out of his
head at the sight of four American women suddenly appearing in what
turned out to be his grandparents barnyard way out in the countryside.
However, he nodded, "yes, my name is Rutledge." (The other boy
informed us that his name was not Rutledge.)

I asked the boy if he thought his grandmother would talk with us and
both he and his friend assured us that she was very nice. So Carol
and I got out of the car and went up to her door. (Much to my
surprise Jean was embarrassed by all of this and at first wouldn't get
out of the car.)
We knocked and a sweet, tiny lady in her late 70's appeared. When she
made out what we were saying through our funny accents, she said,
"I'll have to go get Jim!"

She went into one of the barns and we heard a loud conversation as she
tried to explain to Jim (who wasn't wearing his hearing aids we
learned) that there were four American women in their yard who wanted
to talk to him. Then Jim appeared, probably 80, with a big smile and
hands that had seen many years of hard work. He apologized for his
appearance as he had been "tending to calves."

Jim finally realized that all of us were Rutledges. He seemed quite
pleased and he and Nora told us that we really should go see his
brother in the next village, Tempo. His brother knew more about the
family. However Jim did know that three Rutledge brothers came
together from Scotland into Ireland and settled that area. Also, Jim
told us that his family plot was in the Tempo churchyard.

So we said goodbye, thanking them so very much for their friendliness.
We didn't go see his brother because it was getting dark and we all
realized that none of us knew by heart exactly what Rutledge had come
from Northern Ireland and when, so we couldn't ask good questions.
However, the next morning we did go to the Tempo churchyard and there
the Rutledges were back three generations as I recall. Probably
Jim's grandfather. Carol and Patty, I think, wrote down the
information on the stones.
Of course, we don't know that these were the right branch of the
Rutledge family at all. But we have some sources of information from
that area that we are going to pursue and the whole experience was
just lovely.

-Mary

BTW Ron..... I made my motel reservations for my trip, so I'll be
contacting you to link up while I'm down in your "neck of the woods"
the first week of May. Have a great day everyone! Will be ANXIOUSLY
awaiting news on a connection to Fermanaugh Co!!!! Jan

Ron Rutledge wrote:

Don,

You don't suppose that she may have started out as a "Hex(t)" and it
might have backfired on her and put a "hert" on her,....do you?

Ron, in the woods
[email protected]
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [RUTLEDGE] Edward Rutledge

Thanks. I believe Sarah Hext was his mother.
Don
----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:41 PM
Subject: [RUTLEDGE] Edward Rutledge

Maybe some of you have seen this already but I wanted to share it
just in
case you hadn't.   Cheryl

Edward Rutledge, the first of the South Carolina delegation, who affixes his name to the Declaration of Independence, was born in the city of Charleston, November, 1749. He was the youngest, son of Doctor John Rutledge, who emigrated from Ireland to South Carolina, about the year 1735.

His mother was Sarah Hext, a lady of respectable family, and large fortune. At the age of twenty-seven, she became a widow with seven children. Her eldest son was John Rutledge, distinguished for his patriotic zeal during the revolution.

Her youngest son was the subject of the present memoir. Of the early years of Edward Rutledge we have little to record. He was placed under the care of David Smith, of New-Jersey, by whom he was instructed in the learned languages;

Contact Don Kelly at [email protected] to add your "brick wall" ancestor.

This might help answer some of the questions that keep coming up on the list
regarding John and Edward Rutledge of South Carolina.
Quoting from "John and Edward Rutledge of South Carolina," by James Haw, The
University of Georgia Press, Athens, GA, 1997.

Preface:
The brothers John and Edward Rutledge of South Carolina were among the most
prominent figures of the American revolutionary era. Yet they have received
less research attention from historians than many of their distinguished
compatriots. There has been no published full-length biography of Edward Rutledge.
The only previous biography of John Rutledge, Richard Barry's "Mr. Rutledge of
South Carolina," (New York: Duell, Sloan and Pearce, 1942), is unreliable. I
have followed the advice of Professor George C. Rogers, Jr., to ignore Barry's
book in writing this biography. . . .

Chapter One, Page 1
Little is known of John and Edward's European ancestry. Their father's
family was apparently of English origin. The direct forebears of South Carolina's
distinguished Rutledges went to Ireland in the 1650s as part of the English
settlement that followed Oliver Cromwell's conquest. They are said to have owned
land in County Cavan, in Ballymagied near Baronlog, for at least the next
several generations.
The two brothers, Andrew and John, brought the Rutledge name to South
Carolina in the 1730s. Circumstances suggest that they may have been younger sons
who could not expect to inherit any of the family land in Ireland. Younger sons
of Irish landlords usually pursued their fortunes in trade, the army, or the
professions. Andrew Rutledge was a lawyer. His brother John, sire of the
colonial family, was a doctor.
Andrew Rutledge, the first to come to South Carolina, apparently received
his legal training at the Inns of Court in London. His age when he came to
America around 1730 or 1731 is unknown. The first documentation of his presence, a
plat that he drew as deputy surveyor general of the colony, is dated December
11, 1731. It is not known whether an appointment to that position brought him
to South Carolina or whether his ability and education secured the post for
him after his arrival. . . .
Page 2
Andrew Rutledge's native ability and legal training enabled him to
capitalize on the boom conditions of the 1730s. Already in 1732 Governor Johnson
referred to him as "a lawyer of very good repute in this place." He began to
acquire land, including a thousand-acre tract in Williamsburg Township, Craven
County, and a town lot in Kingston along the Waccamaw River. So quickly did
Rutledge establish his reputation that he was elected in 1733 to represent Christ
Church Parish, just north of Charleston, in the Commons House of Assembly, the
lower house of the colony's legislature. He became adjutant general of the
militia in the same year, a justice of the peace in 1734 and a churchwarden of
Christ Church Parish in 1736.
Page 3
Andrew Rutledge's quick success enabled him to marry into South Carolina's
elite within five years of his arrival in the colony. His bride in 1735 was
Sara Boone Hext, a widow whose first husband, Hugh Hext, had been among South
Carolina's wealthiest men. At his death in 1732, Hext bequeathed to his wife a
life estate in their home plantation on Wando Neck in Christ Church Parish,
with twenty-three slaves. She also received during her lifetime unspecified lands
left to Hext by a relative, Sara Fenwick. Upon Sarah Hext's death these
properties would go to the Hext's only child, a daughter born on September 18,
1724, who bore her mother's name. By her father's will the girl would also receive
at age twenty-one or upon her marriage, whichever came first, two houses in
Charleston, a 530-acre plantation at Stono, and a 640-acre plantation "upon St.
Hellena in granvill County." Andrew and Sarah Boone Hext Rutledge enjoyed
eight years together before Sarah died in 1743. Young Sarah Hext remained her
mother's only child.
Andrew Rutledge undoubtedly sent accounts of his rapid rise back to his
family in Ireland. Perhaps he urged his brother, John, to join him in South
Carolina, or perhaps Doctor John Rutledge did not need to be encouraged. At any
rate, the doctor is thought to have arrived in Charleston by 1735. There is no
record of his earliest activities in the New World, but his evident closeness to
his brother's family seems to have been one key to his fortunes. On December
25, 1738, John Rutledge married fourteen-year-old Sarah Hext, his brother's
stepdaughter. John thus acquired the two Charleston houses and the two
plantations that Sarah received at her marriage.
John and Sarah Rutledge had seven children, the eldest born when his mother
was only fifteen. There is no record of the exact date in 1739 when the first
cries of John Rutledge echoed through his proud parents' brick mansion in
Christ Church Parish. Other children followed: Andrew was born in 1740, Thomas in
1741, Sarah on July 15, 1742, Hugh in 1745, Mary on November 27, 1747, and
the youngest, Edward, on November 23, 1749. . . .
Page 4 .
. . .Doctor Rutledge was a popular man in Charleston society. A convivial
host, he was the first to concoct a "highly popular drink" known as "Officers
Punch." While operating his plantations, he also found time for public service.
Rutledge was a vestryman of Christ Church Parish from 1745 to 1750 and a
represented first St. Paul's Parish and then Christ Church in the Common House from
1743 to 1750. He achieved considerable influence in the assembly.
Dr. John Rutledge died on December 25, 1750, when his eldest son, John, was
eleven and little Edward was only a year old. . . .

Hi, who is working on this line?
I am directly descended from
1. George Rutledge & Nellie (Born 1690 Scotland Tyrone, Ireland Barbados)
2. Thomas Rutledge & Jean Armstrong (Died 1785 in Augusta Co., Virginia)
3. George Rutledge & Elizabeth Brown (Born 1745 Roanoke, Roanoke Co., VA.; Died 1821 Montgomery Co., VA.
4. Elizabeth Brown Rutledge & Hugh Gibson (Born 1781 Montgomery Co., VA.; Died 1845 Cole Co., MO.
5. Charles Taylor Gibson & Virginia Gamble
6. Elizabeth Rutledge Gibson & Richard Earickson Perry

I was going to post my decendent outline tree but it's 6 pages. So I will send it to any of you if you want to see it.

I look forward to hearing from anybody
Bob Perry
[email protected]

Descendants of George Rutledge

Hi, who is working on this line?

I am directly descended from

1. GEORGE RUTLEDGE & Nellie (Born 1690 Scotland  Tyrone, Ireland

Barbados)

2. THOMAS RUTLEDGE 
 &
 Jean Armstrong (Died 1785 in Augusta Co.,

Virginia)

3. GEORGE RUTLEDGE & Elizabeth Brown (Born 1745 Roanoke, Roanoke Co.,

VA.; Died 1821 Montgomery Co., VA.

4. ELIZABETH BROWN RUTLEDGE & Hugh Gibson (Born 1781 Montgomery Co.,

VA.; Died 1845 Cole Co., MO.

5. Charles Taylor Gibson & Virginia Gamble

6. Elizabeth Rutledge Gibson & Richard Earickson Perry

7. John Dietz Perry & Elgie Gladys Wellan

8. Charles Gibson Perry & Kristin Elizabeth Granger

9. Robert Mathew Perry.

1 George Rutledge b: Abt. 1690 in Scottland

. +Nellie Gamble

...... 2 Thomas Rutledge d: 10 Oct 1785 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: ?

.......... +Jean Armstrong b: in Tyrone Co., IRE.

.............. 3 Mary Elizabeth Rutledge

.................. +Robert Young b: 1741 in Augusta Co., VA. d: 1792 in Wash. Co., TN Age at death: 51 est.

...................... 4 Thomas Young b: in VA.

.......................... +Mary Rutledge

...................... 4 Joseph Young

.......................... +Esther Crockett

...................... 4 Elizabeth Young

.......................... +? Gilleland

...................... 4 Martha Young

.......................... +? Coohedy

...................... 4 John Young

...................... 4 [2] William Young b: Abt. 1790 in Hawkins Co., TN.

.......................... +[1] Jane E. Rutledge b: 01 Apr 1793 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 04 Sep 1830 in IN Age at death: 37

...................... 4 Robert Young

...................... 4 Charles Young

...................... 4 Jane Young

.......................... +? Long

...................... 4 Margaret Young

.......................... +? Bates

...................... 4 Mary Young

.......................... +? Digby

...................... 4 Agnes Young

.......................... +Henry

...................... 4 James Young

.......................... +Elizabeth Long

.............. 3 Thomas Rutledge b: in Augusta Co., VA. d: Abt. 1807 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: ?

.................. +Deborah Riddle b: Bef. 1760 d: Aft. 1807 Age at death: 47 est.

...................... 4 George Rutledge

.............. 3 Jean Rutledge b: 1742 in Augusta Co., VA.

.................. +Jonathan Brooks

.............. 3 John Rutledge b: 10 Mar 1743/44 in Augusta Co., VA. d: Bef. Mar 1815 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: 71 est.

.................. +Martha Allison d: Bef. 1825 in VA. Age at death: ?

.............. 3 George Rutledge b: 03 Feb 1744/45 in Roanoke, Roanoke Co., VA. d: 29 Apr 1821 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: 76

.................. +Elizabeth Brown

...................... 4 William P. Rutledge b: 1777 in Roanoke, Montgomery Co., VA. d: in Roanoke, Montgomery Co., VA.

.......................... +Mary b: Abt. 1780 in VA.

.............................. 5 William P. Rutledge b: Abt. 1800 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: Bef. 04 Oct 1852 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: 52 est.

.................................. +Margaret S. b: Bef. 1820

...................................... 6 Elizabeth Ann Rutledge b: Abt. 1837 in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................................... 6 Margaret Jane Rutledge b: Abt. 1838 in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................................... 6 George Washington Rutledge b: Abt. 1840 in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................................... 6 Charles Blane Rutledge b: Abt. 1842 in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................................... 6 Joseph Gray Rutledge b: Abt. 1846 in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................................... 6 Joshua Brown Rutledge b: in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................................... 6 Thomas Jefferson Rutledge b: in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................... 4 Joshua B. Rutledge

...................... 4 Elizabeth Brown Rutledge b: 15 Dec 1781 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 11 Mar 1845 in Cole Co., MO. Age at death: 63

.......................... +Hugh Gibson, Capt. b: 20 Oct 1784 in Mercersburg, Franklin Co., PA. d: 1853 in Tuscumbia, Miller Co., MO. Age at death: 69 est.

.............................. 5 James Rogers Gibson

.............................. 5 George Rutledge Gibson b: Abt. 1812 in Christiansburg, Montgomery Co., VA. d: 1861 Age at death: 49 est.

.............................. 5 Elizabeth Jane Gibson b: 16 Apr 1816 in Christiansburg, VA. d: 08 Aug 1867 in Vincennes, Ind. Age at death: 51

.................................. +William Rosebrough McCord b: 02 May 1809 in Madison Co., KY d: 27 Jan 1881 Age at death: 71

...................................... 6 William Rosebrough McCord, Jr. b: 1842 in Knox Co., IN d: Bef. 1911 Age at death: 69 est.

.......................................... +Dora Chambers

...................................... 6 Isadora McCord b: 1845 in Knox Co., IN

.......................................... +Smiley N. Chambers

...................................... 6 Mary C. McCord b: 18 Jun 1849 in Knox Co., IN d: 1928 Age at death: 79 est.

.......................................... +Joseph F. Harris

...................................... 6 Charles G. McCord b: 21 Mar 1851 in Vincennes, Knox Co., IN d: 15 Mar 1914 in Vincennes, Knox Co., IN Age at death: 62

.......................................... +Eleanor M. Drish b: 12 Mar 1857 in Carlinville, Macoupin Co., IL d: 1923 Age at death: 66 est.

.............................. 5 Joseph Miller Gibson b: 12 Jul 1818 in Christianburg, VA. d: 07 Feb 1867 in Cooper Co., Mo. Age at death: 48

.................................. +Martha Hill b: 10 Mar 1832 in Cooper Co., Mo.

...................................... 6 Liliah Elizabeth Gibson

.............................. 5 Edward H. Gibson b: Abt. 1820 in Virginia

.................................. +Lucinda b: Abt. 1821 in Tennessee

...................................... 6 Leona Gibson b: Abt. 1844

...................................... 6 Nancy Gibson b: Abt. 1845

...................................... 6 Mary Gibson b: Abt. 1848

.............................. 5 John Hoge Gibson b: 1822 d: 1885 Age at death: 63 est.

.................................. +Mary A. Hill b: 1818 d: 1899 Age at death: 81 est.

...................................... 6 James Gibson b: 1849

.......................................... +Mary Todd Pence b: 1859

.............................. 5 Charles Taylor Gibson b: 16 Feb 1825 in Christiansburg, VA. d: 27 Oct 1899 in St. Louis, St. Louis Co., MO Age at death: 74

.................................. +Virginia Gamble b: 02 Oct 1830 in St. Louis, St. Louis Co., MO d: Dec 1907 in St. Louis, St. Louis Co., MO Age at death: 77 est.

...................................... 6 Louise Gibson b: 16 May 1852 d: Dec 1927 Age at death: 75 est.

.......................................... +Luther H. Conn b: Sep 1841 in KY. d: Aft. 1920 Age at death: 79 est.

...................................... 6 Victor Rutledge Gibson b: 07 Aug 1854 d: 1911 Age at death: 57 est.

...................................... 6 Archibald Gibson b: 18 Sep 1856 d: 1881 Age at death: 25 est.

...................................... 6 Preston Gibson b: 19 Sep 1858 d: 1920 Age at death: 62 est.

...................................... 6 Charles Eldon Gibson b: 28 Oct 1860 d: 1918 Age at death: 58 est.

.......................................... +Mary P. Gilbert

...................................... 6 Elizabeth Rutledge Gibson b: 28 Oct 1862 d: May 1951 Age at death: 88 est.

.......................................... +Richard Earickson Perry b: 02 Dec 1860 in St. Louis, St. Louis Co., MO. d: 1930 Age at death: 70 est.

...................................... 6 Gerolt Gibson b: 29 Dec 1864 d: Jan 1960 Age at death: 95 est.

...................................... 6 Easton Rutledge Gibson b: 14 Dec 1874 in MO. d: 08 Dec 1944 in Monterey, CA. Age at death: 69

.......................................... +Elizabeth Sophia Durham b: Abt. 1881 in MO.

...................... 4 Edward Rutledge

...................... 4 Jane R. Rutledge b: in Montgomery Co., VA. d: Bef. 1807 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: ?

.......................... +John Hoge

.............................. 5 Eliza A. Hoge

.............................. 5 Jane R. Hoge

...................... 4 Lucinda Rutledge b: in Montgomery Co., VA. d: Oct 1858 in Caledona, Wash. Co., MO. Age at death: ?

.......................... +Johnathan Hatton b: Bef. 1785 d: Bef. 1823 Age at death: 38 est.

.............................. 5 Harriett Hatton b: in VA.

.............................. 5 George R. Hatton b: Abt. 1808 in VA.

...................... *2nd Husband of Lucinda Rutledge:

.......................... +William Gibson b: Bef. 1801 in PA d: Dec 1843 in Carroll Co., VA Age at death: 42 est.

.............................. 5 Silas Newton Gibson b: Apr 1824 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 18 Nov 1901 in Rosenburg, Douglas, OR Age at death: 77 est.

.................................. +Sarah Brown Lucas

.............................. 5 Mary Gibson

.................................. +William C. Long

...................... 4 Mary Rutledge b: in Montgomery Co., VA.

.......................... +John Evans b: Abt. 1774 in VA. d: Aft. 1850 Age at death: 76 est.

.............................. 5 George Evans Evans b: 18 Jul 1813 in VA. d: 1895 Age at death: 82 est.

.................................. +Eliza Ellen Wall

.............................. 5 Jonathan Tosh Evans b: 09 May 1816 in VA.

.................................. +Catherine Trigg

.............................. 5 Thomas B. Evans b: Abt. 1818 d: Bef. 1891 Age at death: 73 est.

.................................. +Ann Elizabeth Thomas

.............................. 5 John L. Evans b: Abt. 1820 d: 1854 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: 34 est.

.............................. 5 Harriet J. Evans

.................................. +Moses Hoge

.............................. 5 Lucinda A. Evans

.................................. +S. Joseph Shanklin

.............................. 5 Catherine Evans b: Abt. 1826

.................................. +? Woolvine

.............................. *2nd Husband of Catherine Evans:

.................................. +? Ross

.............................. 5 Virginia P. Evans b: Abt. 1828

.................................. +James Wilson

.............................. 5 Margaret Rosanna Evans b: Abt. 1829

.................................. +John R. Charlton

.............................. 5 James Evans b: Abt. 1830

.................................. +Ellen Spickard

.............................. 5 Edward H. Evans

.............................. 5 C. W. Evans

.................................. +Mary J. Taylor

...................... 4 Nancy Rutledge d: Abt. Sep 1822 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: ?

...................... 4 Elizabeth A. Rutledge

.......................... +? Hoge

.............. 3 Elizabeth Rutledge b: Nov 1746 in Augusta Co., VA.

.................. +William Armstrong

.............. 3 James Rutledge b: 29 Jan 1747/48 in Augusta Co., VA. d: Bef. 1834 in VA. Age at death: 86 est.

.................. +Jane Finley d: Apr 1834 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: ?

...................... 4 Thomas Rutledge b: Abt. 1787 in Augusta Co., VA.

...................... 4 Jane Rutledge b: 05 Feb 1790 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 10 Jan 1825 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: 34

.......................... +William Carson

.............. 3 Ann Rutledge b: 1755 in Augusta Co., VA.

.................. +James Henderson

.............. 3 Katharine Rutledge b: Abt. 1759 in Augusta Co., VA. d: Bef. Oct 1808 Age at death: 49 est.

.................. +Stephen Riddle b: 19 Mar 1765 in VA. d: 1816 Age at death: 51 est.

...................... 4 John Ruddell b: 1797 d: 10 Oct 1823 in VA. Age at death: 26 est.

.......................... +Naomi Pepper

.............. 3 Edward Rutledge b: 10 Mar 1761 in Augusta Co., VA. d: 30 Jun 1836 in Montgomery Co., VA. Age at death: 75

.................. +Ann Gillespie b: 28 Jun 1769 d: 06 Feb 1833 Age at death: 63

...................... 4 William E. Rutledge b: 08 May 1788 in VA. d: 12 Aug 1845 in VA. Age at death: 57

...................... 4 Thomas E. Rutledge b: 04 Jan 1791 in VA. d: 22 Dec 1872 in IN Age at death: 81

.......................... +Attelia Peery

...................... *2nd Wife of Thomas E. Rutledge:

.......................... +Hannah B. Caldwell

...................... 4 George Finley Rutledge b: Abt. 1794 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 29 Mar 1851 in Chapel Hill, Cedar Co., MO Age at death: 57 est.

.......................... +Margaret A. Murray

...................... 4 Rosy Ann Rutledge b: 30 Aug 1798 in Montgomery Co., VA.

...................... 4 James Rutledge b: 05 May 1801 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 12 Feb 1847 in Caledona, Wash. Co., MO. Age at death: 45

.......................... +Nancy Ann Thompson

...................... 4 John Rutledge

...................... 4 Mary Rutledge b: 01 Apr 1806 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 02 Feb 1842 Age at death: 35

.......................... +? Thompson

...................... 4 Robert Finley Rutledge b: Abt. 1808 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: Aft. 1847 in MO. Age at death: 39 est.

.......................... +Lydia Thompson

...................... 4 [1] Jane E. Rutledge b: 01 Apr 1793 in Montgomery Co., VA. d: 04 Sep 1830 in IN Age at death: 37

.......................... +[2] William Young b: Abt. 1790 in Hawkins Co., TN.

...... 2 Catherine Rutledge

.......... +William Marshall

...... 2 William Rutledge b: Abt. 07 Jan 1727/28 in Tyrone Co., IRE. d: 16 Aug 1790 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: 62 est.

.......... +Eleanor Caldwell b: Abt. 1732

.............. 3 Nancy Rutledge b: 18 Jan 1754 in Augusta Co., VA. d: 16 Feb 1840 Age at death: 86

.................. +Robert Cowan b: 1750

...................... 4 Mary Cowan

...................... 4 Eleanor Cowan

...................... 4 James Cowan

...................... 4 William Cowan

.......................... +Nancy Susong

...................... 4 Andrew Cowan

...................... 4 George Rutledge Cowan

...................... 4 John Cowan

.............. 3 Jean Rutledge b: Abt. 1755 in Augusta Co., VA.

.............. 3 Mary Elizabeth Rutledge b: Abt. 1760 in Augusta Co., VA.

.............. 3 George Rutledge b: 13 Apr 1761 in Augusta Co., VA. d: 01 Jul 1813 in Blountsville, Sullivan Co., TN. Age at death: 52

.................. +Annis Armstrong b: 18 Sep 1764 in Stony Point, TN. d: 06 Nov 1834 in Blountsville, Sullivan Co., TN. Age at death: 70

...................... 4 William Rutledge b: 01 Feb 1789 in Hawkins Co., TN.

.......................... +Almira Casewell

...................... 4 Mary Caldwell Rutledge b: 04 Dec 1790 in Hawkins Co., TN. d: 1867 in TN. Age at death: 77 est.

.......................... +James Samuel Powell

...................... 4 Priscilla Rutledge b: 27 Jan 1792 in Hawkins Co., TN. d: Abt. 1833 Age at death: 41 est.

.......................... +David Maxwell

...................... 4 Eleanor Rutledge b: 06 Feb 1794 in Hawkins Co., TN.

.......................... +J. Benjamin Powell

...................... 4 Sarah Rutledge b: 15 Mar 1796 in Hawkins Co., TN. d: 11 Jun 1823 in AL Age at death: 27

.......................... +Richard Clayton

...................... 4 George Washington Rutledge b: 25 Jan 1798 in Hawkins Co., TN. d: 15 Dec 1840 in TN. Age at death: 42

.......................... +Sarah Caswell Cobb

...................... 4 Elizabeth Rutledge b: 16 Nov 1799 in Hawkins Co., TN.

.......................... +David Larkins

...................... 4 Jenny Rutledge b: 20 Nov 1801 in Hawkins Co., TN.

.......................... +William Anderson

.............................. 5 Adaline Anderson

.................................. +George McClellan b: 1826

...................... 4 Annie Armstrong Rutledge b: 27 Dec 1804 in Hawkins Co., TN. d: 23 Feb 1837 Age at death: 32

.......................... +Samuel Rhea

...................... 4 Nancy Rutledge b: 22 Mar 1806 in Hawkins Co., TN.

.......................... +G. W. Netherland

...................... 4 Louisiana Armstrong Rutledge b: 08 Jan 1809 in Hawkins Co., TN.

.......................... +Samuel M. Hughes

.............. 3 Robert Rutledge b: 13 Oct 1764 in Lunenburg, Augusta Co., VA. d: 16 Sep 1853 in Bristol, Sullivan Co., TN. Age at death: 88

.................. +Catherine Crockett b: 18 Nov 1771 in Wythe, Augusta Co., VA d: 1839 in Bristol, Sullivan Co., TN. Age at death: 68 est.

...................... 4 Jane Jinny Rutledge b: 24 Dec 1797 in Sullivan Co., TN d: 22 Mar 1810 in MS Age at death: 12

.......................... +William Rutledge

...................... 4 Nelly Rutledge b: 01 Mar 1799 in Sullivan Co., TN d: 22 Oct 1834 in Athens, AL Age at death: 35

.......................... +George Keyes

...................... 4 William R. Rutledge b: 12 Jun 1801 in Sullivan Co., TN d: 12 Jul 1861 in Sullivan Co., TN Age at death: 60

.......................... +Elizira Crockett

...................... 4 Priscilla Rutledge b: 29 May 1804 in Sullivan Co., TN d: Abt. 1804 in TN. Age at death: 0 est.

...................... 4 John Crockett Rutledge b: 22 Sep 1806 in Sullivan Co., TN d: Feb 1875 in TN. Age at death: 68 est.

.......................... +Sarah Caswell Cobb

...................... 4 Samuel Rutledge b: 03 Sep 1808 in Sullivan Co., TN d: 1891 in Sullivan Co., TN Age at death: 83 est.

.......................... +Elsie O'Dell

...................... 4 George Powell Rutledge b: 11 Jun 1813 in Sullivan Co., TN

.......................... +Delia Finley Telford

...... 2 John Rutledge d: 17 Oct 1751 in Augusta Co., VA. Age at death: ?

Hi-

I may not be answering your question directly. But a Dr John Rutledge emigrated to the colonies
from Cty Tyrone about the time in question. He became quite wealthy and had about 7 children.

John Rutledge (1739-1800) was born in Charleston SC and became Governor of SC. He was a
signer of the US Constitution and a t the end of his life he was a US Supreme Court Justice.

Edward Rutledge(1749-1800) was born in Christ Church SC and was a signer of the Declaration
of Independence and later became Governor of SC.

Perhaps, some of the siblings resettled to MO.

Hope this helps.

Robert Telford
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Subject: [NIR-TYRONE] Rutledge and/or Abernathy in Tyrone County Ireland 1736

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I am looking for any Rutledge's or Abernathy's that were born there and moved to the USA in North Carloina and moved later to Missouri. THANKS

Re: I am looking for a John Beacom and Mary Ruttledge (graves)..... we
looked in Lisbellaw, Derryhoney, Derryvullen North and South( one of these
is Tamlaght)
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In Kilnakelly (Kinawley) in1901 there were thirteen houses and four of them
were vacant. The lessor of two of those houses was John Ruteledge of
Killyreagh (Derryvullan). Killyreagh is about a kilometer north of
Tamlaght. This might be a place to look.

James

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See: Rutledge DNA Research #4570.
This is a copy of the research I have as of yet. I do have more, but limited.

Descendants of George Rutledge

Generation No. 1

1. GEORGE1 RUTLEDGE was born 1815 in County Tyrone, Ireland. He married MARGARET1,2. She was born 1819 in County Tyrone, Ireland.

More About GEORGE RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: C6QX-GB2

More About MARGARET:
Ancestral File Number: C6QX-HH2

Child of GEORGE RUTLEDGE and MARGARET is:
2. i. CHARLES2 RUTLEDGE, b. September 26, 1841, Tyrone, Ireland; d. June 29, 1917, Corning, NY.

Generation No. 2

2. CHARLES2 RUTLEDGE (GEORGE1) was born September 26, 1841 in Tyrone, Ireland, and died June 29, 1917 in Corning, NY. He married (1) SARAH E. PRESTON3,4,5, daughter of DAVID PRESTON and ALMIRA BUCKBEE. She was born August 07, 1847 in Ny6,7. He married (2) SARAH E. PRESTON8,9,10, daughter of DAVID PRESTON and ALMIRA BUCKBEE. She was born August 07, 1847 in Ny11,12.

Notes for CHARLES RUTLEDGE:
English or Irish Heritage.
Family lived in Sugar Hill area near Watkins Glen, NY

More About CHARLES RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSH-VX13,14
Burial: Coopers Cemetary Lindley, NY

More About SARAH E. PRESTON:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSH-W415,16

More About SARAH E. PRESTON:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSH-W417,18

Children of CHARLES RUTLEDGE and SARAH PRESTON are:
3. i. GEORGE WASHINGTON3 RUTLEDGE, b. July 27, 1875, Lindley, NY; d. 1930.
ii. JOHN E. RUTLEDGE19,20, b. March 17, 1882, Lindley, Steuben, Ny20; d. 195620.

More About JOHN E. RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSJ-4920

Children of CHARLES RUTLEDGE and SARAH PRESTON are:
iii. LENA3 RUTLEDGE, b. May 05, 1890, Lindley, Steuben, Ny20; d. September 29, 195820; m. JOHN ALFRED EKSTROM, December 25, 1909.

More About LENA RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSJ-6M20

iv. ADA ALMIRA RUTLEDGE21,22,23, b. April 14, 1871, Townsend, Schuyler, Ny24,25; d. March 08, 1923, Geneva, Ontario, Ny26,27.

More About ADA ALMIRA RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSH-Q828,29
Burial: July 08, 1923, Lindley, Steuben, Ny30,31

v. ELLEN RUTLEDGE32,33,34, b. December 06, 1873, Ny35,36; d. September 09, 189237,38.

More About ELLEN RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSJ-2X39,40

vi. HARLOW RUTLEDGE41,42,43, b. August 11, 1884, Lindley, Steuben, Ny44,45; d. 194446,47; m. PEARL.

More About HARLOW RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSJ-5G48,49

Generation No. 3

3. GEORGE WASHINGTON3 RUTLEDGE (CHARLES2, GEORGE1) was born July 27, 1875 in Lindley, NY, and died 193050,51. He married MARY MCCLELLAN, daughter of MCCLELLAN.

Notes for GEORGE WASHINGTON RUTLEDGE:

More About GEORGE WASHINGTON RUTLEDGE:
Ancestral File Number: 3DSJ-3452,53

Notes for MARY MCCLELLAN:
Came with family age 13 from Ireland in late 1880's.

Children of GEORGE RUTLEDGE and MARY MCCLELLAN are:
4. i. GEORGE ALBERT4 RUTLEDGE, b. June 14, 1901, Corning, NY; d. July 1937, Corning, NY.
5. ii. MARY ELIZABETH RUTLEDGE, b. December 08, 1911, Corning, NY; d. February 06, 1969, Painted Post, NY.

Generation No. 4

4. GEORGE ALBERT4 RUTLEDGE (GEORGE WASHINGTON3, CHARLES2, GEORGE1) was born June 14, 1901 in Corning, NY, and died July 1937 in Corning, NY. He married DOROTHY HEATH September 15, 1925 in Ithaca, NY, daughter of FLOYD HEATH and EVA PERSONIUS. She was born June 30, 1909, and died December 09, 1994 in Corning, NY.

More About GEORGE ALBERT RUTLEDGE:
Burial: July 1937, Corning, NY
Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemmorage

Notes for DOROTHY HEATH:
Social Security 078-07-3122
Remarried to Winfield Robison

More About DOROTHY HEATH:
Cause of Death: Congestion Heart Failure
Medical Information: Diabetic

Children of GEORGE RUTLEDGE and DOROTHY HEATH are:
i. HEATH5 RUTLEDGE, b. August 21, 1935, Corning, NY; m. JANE WELTY; b. March 12, 1936.

Notes for HEATH RUTLEDGE:
Industrial Arts teacher
Furnace Engineer with Corning Glass Works
Separated from Heath Rutledge December 1974, Divorced August 1975
Remarried Betty Lou Schieber, originally Betty Lou Post

Notes for JANE WELTY:
Separated from Heath Rutledge December 1974, Divorced August 1975
Married Richard Mastin September 1975

ii. ROSEMARY RUTLEDGE.

5. MARY ELIZABETH4 RUTLEDGE (GEORGE WASHINGTON3, CHARLES2, GEORGE1) was born December 08, 1911 in Corning, NY, and died February 06, 1969 in Painted Post, NY. She married GEORGE BRITTON HALL August 18, 1932 in Wellsboro, PA.

Notes for MARY ELIZABETH RUTLEDGE:
Mary married George Britton Hall on August 18, 1932 in Wellsboro, PA

Children of MARY RUTLEDGE and GEORGE HALL are:
i. GEORGE EDWARD HALL5 SR, b. June 11, 1941, Corning, NY.
ii. HARRISON ROBERT HALL, b. March 12, 1935, Corning, NY; d. June 21, 1983, Grand Rapids, MI.
iii. JOYCE ELLEN HALL, b. February 12, 1936, Corning, NY; d. August 19, 1993, Corning, NY.
iv. WILLIAM ALBERT HALL, b. September 01, 1942, Corning, NY; d. September 15, 1996, Bath, NY.

Endnotes

1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998.
2. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
3. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998.
4. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
5. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
6. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
7. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
8. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998.
9. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
10. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
11. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
12. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
13. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
14. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
15. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
16. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
17. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
18. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
19. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998.
20. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
21. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998.
22. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
23. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
24. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
25. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
26. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
27. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
28. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
29. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
30. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
31. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
32. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998.
33. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
34. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
35. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
36. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
37. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
38. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
39. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
40. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
41. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998.
42. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
43. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
44. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
45. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
46. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
47. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
48. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
49. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
50. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
51. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.
52. RUTLEDGE.ged, Date of Import: Jun 4, 2001.
53. PRESTON.ged, Date of Import: Jun 14, 2001.

Mary Ann RUTLEDGE <1804 Kinawley, married John ANDERSON <1800, Derryvullan, about 1830 in Fermanagh and had son James <1831 before immigrating first to Nova Scotia, Canada and then settling in Goderich, Township, Ontario, Canada.
Can someone please advise where I should write to confirm the births and marriage? The Fermanagh birth information above came from the IGI.
Thank you for any reply.
Gayle Dodd

I guess I've been sleeping..... has there been other chatter on here
regarding the Rutledge/Elliott connection? My brickwall stops with
George Rutledge, my 3rd g-grandfather. He was born 1780 in Inniskellan,
County Fermanaugh, Ireland. He had 2 children at the time he emigrated
to the US in 1817, but he left his 4 year old daughter in Ireland. This
daughter, Jane, married a William Alexander Elliott, and they had 5
children. She never came to the US.

My father was Willis Rutledge (1929-1996) who married my mom, Jean
Elliott (1934-1999) in 1951. That makes the second
Rutledge/Elliott connection in my direct line.

As far as the DNA testing, I haven't been able to find that special guy
in my line that will agree to be swabbed!!! I have a family reunion the
end of the month, and I am going to plead with my only hopes and see if
he will do me the honors! I would love to find out if my line connects
back there somewhere!

Cyndi... my grandma Rutledge & I used to search the trees every evening
looking for the cicada sheds. She always called them locust sheds. We
would gather them up and take them inside and attach them to the leaves
of a house plant. By the end of the summer when I had to go back home,
we would have hundreds of those sheds adorning her plants. She would
leave them there until Christmas break when I'd go back and stay again.
We'd take them off, count them and record that number in our little
notebook, and then reminisce about the past summer and make plans for
the next summer, where the collecting would begin anew! In case you
didn't catch it... my grandmother spoiled me badly!!!! She had more time
to spend with me, than she had for anyone or anything else in this
entire earth, even tho I was one of 7 grandkids. We cut out more
paperdolls, make babies out of hankies, hollyhocks & corncobs. I still
remember grandma & I out in the backyard making mud pies. She would have
as much fun packing the mud into my little tin dishes as I did. Then we
would line the porch railing with them until they baked in the sun & we
could dump them out and have them ready to serve grandpa dinner when he
got home. Oh, the simple things that gave me so many wonderful memories
growing up! I was blessed to have my grandma & grandpa Rutledge who
dolled out all of their love, time and attention on me!!! Unfortunately,
I have to work and don't have the hours to spend with my grandkids like
my grandparents had for me!

Gotta run... later...... Jan

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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 21:29:33 EDT [email protected] writes:

Hi folks,

To those of you who have already tested, I wanted to let you know
your
results (no personal info) has been uploaded to a world database
where you can look
for matches... If you uploaded yourself to FamilyTree DNA's YSearch
you have
your own password. To anyone else, I've assigned you all an easy
password --
it's our surname backwards. If you go to your Family Tree DNA
(http://www.familytreedna.com) results page and click on Ysearch,
your specific code will
come up and ask you for a password. Once you enter it you can
search for
matches...

Has everyone sent Mike their known ancestor line for inclusion in
his
wonderful website?
http://home.comcast.net/~rutledgedna/ There is a Border Reiver
project going
on which could be interesting since Rutledge/Routledge is a Border
name
(associated with the Elliotts, Nixons, Grahams, Armstrongs, etc).

Always looking for new folks to test! I particularly want to find
descendants of the Virginia Rutledges as well as anyone from the
Scotland/England
Rutledge/Ruttledge/Routledge lines! Don, is it you who is in
contact with Sean
Ruttledge? Richard, do you have contacts in Scotland who could be
tested? Do we
have anyone from the John & Edward line of SC (and Ireland) group on
this
list???

List has been a bit stagnant lately--so has the DNA project! Hope
everyone
is having a good spring/summer. Personally, I'm whelmed by this
cicada
invasion of ours-- it's like a (bad) science fiction novel come
true! Fear Factor in
real life! In 3 weeks I have personally splatted 306 on my
windshield--I do
drive for a living, but still... doing my part to decimate the next
brood!

Good June, all!
Cyndi Rutledge in Baltimore

Surnames: Rutledge, Waugh, Welty, Preston,

Hello - My name is George Rutledge. My ggggGranfather came from Tyrone Co. Ireland, About 1820's or 1830's -or so. He settled in the Fingerlakes region of NY. His name was George Rutledge ( I'm named after him.) He was married to Margret. They had at least one child. One boy named - Charles Rutledge and he married a Sara Preston, is from my line.
I live in the Fingerlakes region of NY.
Contact me for futher info.
George Rutledge