My info is quite skimpy on the Elliotts.  They apparently came together
from the Kinawley area to Carleton county Ontario Canada in 1831.  The only
Elliott that I know of (other than the story that the families came
together) is Margaret Elliott born 25 Jan 1809 in Fermangh county.  From a
GEDCOM file from a cousin I have:

Margaret Elliott came to Canada with her husband Edward Rutledge in 1831 to
Goulbourne Twp. where they stayed 4 years before moving to Bastard Twp.
where they stayed 16 years.  They then moved to Artimesia, where she
died.  She was survived by her husband and 10 children (from the Christian
Guardian newspaper).

Margaret married Edward Rutledge in 1829 before coming to Canada.  She died
23 Feb 1870 in Artemesia township, Grey county, Ontario, Canada.  I don't
have any more info on other Elliotts of that family.  Edward (1808-1882) is
a younger brother of my gggrandfather Thomas Rutledge (1802-1883).

Cheers
--Chris Irvine

At 11:31 PM 4/11/2005, you wrote:
  Chris,
   Your Rutledge family who travelled to Canada with a family of
   ELLIOTTS.
   Could you please tell me who this ELLIOTT family were and where
   they came from????
   After more than ten years constant research I still can't find
   where my Elliott family came from in Fermanagh and where they
   emigrated to. I was always told there was a Rutledge connection.
   Maybe this is it!!!!!
   Fingers crossed!
   Thanks,
   Carole.

   My Rutledges definitely came from the Kinawley area south of
  Enniskillen.  Hugh Rutledge (1775-1826) is listed in the Kinawley parish
  registers as transcribed by Ruth (Rutledge) Gregson (and on Vynette Sage's
  CD).  There were 14 children of which one died young, one married a George
  Hanna (and stayed) and the rest came to Canada in the 1830's with a family
  of Elliots.  I am descended from Thomas Rutledge(1802-1883).
 
  I see in the freeholders lists that there are a number of likely relatives
  there in 1747.  Its possible that this Rutledge line goes back to an Edward
  Rutlidge who was granted land as a servitor in the early 1600's
  (http://www.angelfire.com/my/tray/ulster-3.htm).
 
  Cheers
  --Chris Irvine

There was a John Rutledge (Routledge), born 1791 and died 1852; emigrated to
New York in 1817, and then to Ontario in 1819.
He was married to Alice Dixon and they had several children:

Alexander
Christiana
Edward
Eggerton Ryerson
Elizabeth
James
James Ingram
Jane
John Thomas
William
Sara Ann
Mary

This family was predominant in settling the area immediately NW of Toronto,
Canada (Dixie) and much of their history is on file.

Hal Graham
19 000 Airport Road
Caledon East, Ontario
L0N 1E0
Telephone 905 584 2109
Facsimile  905 584 4722
[email protected]



 -----Original Message-----
From: Jean Scarlott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)

Very interesting. I also have Rutledge's but not sure where in Ireland they
came from. My group is James Rutledge b. 1754 Ireland and married Jane
Foster there children where:
John b. 1784 Ireland
Thomas b. 1787 Ireland
William b. 1789 married Mary Scarlott
James Westley b. 1792 Washington Co. Pa.
Edward b. 1795 Washington Co. Pa
Simeon b. 1800 Washington Co. Pa.
Jane b. 1803 Washington Co. Pa. married George Forster in Jefferson Co. Oh.

Have wondered if Jane Foster last name should be Forster?
Any connection with your groups?
Jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "C Irvine" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)


 My Rutledges definitely came from the Kinawley area south of Enniskillen.
 Hugh Rutledge (1775-1826) is listed in the Kinawley parish registers as
 transcribed by Ruth (Rutledge) Gregson (and on Vynette Sage's CD).  There
 were 14 children of which one died young, one married a George Hanna (and
 stayed) and the rest came to Canada in the 1830's with a family of
 Elliots.  I am descended from Thomas Rutledge(1802-1883).

 I see in the freeholders lists that there are a number of likely relatives
 there in 1747.  Its possible that this Rutledge line goes back to an
 Edward Rutlidge who was granted land as a servitor in the early 1600's
 (http://www.angelfire.com/my/tray/ulster-3.htm).

 Cheers
 --Chris Irvine


 At 08:39 PM 4/10/2005, you wrote:
Greetings Fermanagh listers. Researchers often ask enquire of my familial
interests in Fermanagh. Generally is is surnames Owen and Rutledge who
live long ago in Fermanagh and Tyrone.

Like my crazy Rutledhe cousins, we can make up our minds to which of our
sets of 4gparents we want to concentrate on finding, so we follow the
clues on the ancestors of the week.

Enniskillen comes up regularly on this list so I have a story from four of
my Rutledge cousins who visited that area last year. It would be
fortuitous if any of you had the same ancestors in the same area.

Our visit to Enniskillen: Its a very long story so if anyone is interested
I'll write the other four chapters offlist.

Don Kelly
==============================
Chapter I (prelude)

What a wonderful story.  Thanks for sharing it!!!!!
Marcia in CA
On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:18 AM, Jan Roggy wrote:

Oh, aren't we the witty one this morning!!!!  That was good Ron.  I
found her on ancestry.com last night as Hext, but there was no parents
listed. Becoming a Rutledge couldn't have been a hex(t) nor a hert! It
had to have been the best thing that ever happened in her life! I
think we all need someone to research for us in Fermanaugh Co. Maybe
that is the link we're all waiting for!  This might be a good time to
share a story that my cousin shared with me. She, her 2 sisters and
another cousin went to Ireland last fall, and shared this when they
got home.

Helen -  Jean and Carol told me to write to you to tell you about our
Rutledge event on our trip to Ireland.  Since it has taken me more
than two weeks to do it, they may have gotten disgusted and already
written to you, or perhaps Patty has told you.   But here is my
version of our Rutledge encounter.

We four were staying in Enniskillen in County Fermanagh in Northern
Ireland. We had gone there on purpose because we had read and been
told that our Rutledge ancestors came from that area.  Enniskillen is
a pleasant medium-sized town on rolling land with several lakes.  We
enjoyed that area so much that we stayed over an extra day.  Among the
attractions there is a large estate kept up by the National Trust of
Great Britain named Florence Court.  It was named after a Florence
Cole so we most definitely visited it.  We learned that the Cole
family settled there during the "plantation period" of Northern Irish
history. Some of us (namely me) didn't know that the British were
setting up plantations in Northern Ireland at about the same time as
they were establishing them in Virginia.          (I'm going to
interject here.... Florence Rutledge was my grandfather's sister, and
she married William C. Cole, thus the Florence Cole connection)

But you are thinking that I am writing about the Coles and not the
Rutledges, I imagine.  Never fear...

Near Enniskillen is the village of Lisbellow.  We all thought that
might be the actual locale of the Rutledge group.  We all knew we had
heard of it.  It seemed likely to us that people in the old days might
have said that they were from Enniskillen since that was the larger
city just a few miles away.
In any event we decided to drive to Lisbellow and "raise our glasses"
in the pub there in honor of our ancestors.

When we got to Lisbellow late one afternoon, we couldn't find the pub!
That is unheard of in any Irish settlement so we were going to turn
around and try the main street one more time.  Lisbellow is really
quite small.  To turn around I pulled into the driveway of a man
mowing his yard.  Carol jumped out of the car and said to the man,
"Where is the pub? "  He thought she was a bit odd and was more than a
little startled to suddenly be faced with an American woman in his
yard.  He said something like, "Why do you want a pub?"  Carol said,
"We are going to toast our ancestors whom we think came from
Lisbellow."  The man told Carol that he couldn't recommend the local
pub so Carol was getting back in the car when he called to her and
said,  "What is your family's name?"  Carol said, "Rutledge, but they
left years ago."  He said, "Well, I know where the Rutledges live."
He proceeded to give Carol directions to a country road east of the
village a mile or two.

So we couldn't resist.  We headed out that way, found the corner he
had described and started down this country lane.  We got to a house
that we thought was at the end of the road because the road looked
even narrower past the house's barn and it was all covered in mud.  So
I stopped and, somewhat to my surprise, Patty jumped out of the car
and went up to the house and started knocking on the doors (both front
and back) and peeking in the windows.  Finally a lady came out of the
house and Patty asked her if her name was Rutledge.  "Oh, you want Jim
and Nora," she said.  "They are at the end of the road."  She pointed
down the muddy lane.

Well, "in for a penny, in for a pound,"  so we continued down the lane
which really was the road.  It was paved under the mud.

Soon we came to a farmyard.  It had a nice house with a pretty garden
at one end and barns on the other three sides, forming a courtyard
covered in cobblestones.  Two boys about 10 years old were kicking a
soccer ball around.  I rolled down my car window and said to the one
that was closest, "Is your name Rutledge?"  His eyes popped out of his
head at the sight of four American women suddenly appearing in what
turned out to be his grandparents barnyard way out in the countryside.
  However, he nodded, "yes, my name is Rutledge."  (The other boy
informed us that his name was not Rutledge.)

I asked the boy if he thought his grandmother would talk with us and
both he and his friend assured us that she was very nice.  So Carol
and I got out of the car and went up to her door.  (Much to my
surprise Jean was embarrassed by all of this and at first wouldn't get
out of the car.)
We knocked and a sweet, tiny lady in her late 70's appeared.  When she
made out what we were saying through our funny accents, she said,
"I'll have to go get Jim!"

She went into one of the barns and we heard a loud conversation as she
tried to explain to Jim (who wasn't wearing his hearing aids we
learned) that there were four American women in their yard who wanted
to talk to him.  Then Jim appeared, probably 80, with a big smile and
hands that had seen many years of hard work.  He apologized for his
appearance as he had been "tending to calves."

Jim finally realized that all of us were Rutledges.  He seemed quite
pleased and he and Nora told us that we really should go see his
brother in the next village, Tempo.  His brother knew more about the
family. However Jim did know that three Rutledge brothers came
together from Scotland into Ireland and settled that area.  Also, Jim
told us that his family plot was in the Tempo churchyard.

So we said goodbye, thanking them so very much for their friendliness.
We didn't go see his brother because it was getting dark and we all
realized that none of us knew by heart exactly what Rutledge had come
from Northern Ireland and when, so we couldn't ask good questions.
However, the next morning we did go to the Tempo churchyard and there
the Rutledges were back three generations  as I recall.  Probably
Jim's grandfather.  Carol and Patty, I think, wrote down the
information on the stones.
Of course, we don't know that these were the right branch of the
Rutledge family at all.  But we have some sources of information from
that area that we are going to pursue and the whole experience was
just lovely.

-Mary




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With your permission I will post your message to the Rutledge mail list. One
of our cousins has a Cole and a Rutledge in her line.

Thanks for your input.

Don Kelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laura Beacom" <[email protected]
To: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)


 Dear Don,

 My great great grandfather was John Beacom, in 1851 he married Mary
 Rutledge.  I believe her parents were James & Margaret Rutledge.  Mary had
 come from Derryhoney, Parish of Cleenish which is a hop skip and a jump
 from
 Lisbellaw where John was born.  My Beacom cousins live in Lisbellaw and I
 have visited them once and I am returning this coming May.

 Anyways  Mary and John had several children.  Only one came to Canada in
 1913, that being my great grandfather.  John died at the age of 49 on July
 25, 1876 from  and Mary lived until the 17th of November, 1914.  Her son
 James Beacom had taken over the family farm in Lisbellaw.

 I would have to imagine that there is a good possibility that our Rutleges
 are related and possibly that Mary is one of the sisters or first cousin
 to
 the Rutledge that married the Cole.

 What do you think.  My Beacoms were all 2nd class in their day since they
 all owned there own farms so they had a few bucks if that is what you
 would
 call it.  I was surprised to find that they actually didn't live in
 poverty
 in their time.  My father never really understood why his grandfather had
 left N.Ireland since he ran his own pub and sold spirits.

 Let me know what you think.  I will visit the Tempo graveyard when I go
 back
 because I still have not found the graves of  John and Mary Beacom.  James
 her eldest is buried in the Lisbellaw church yard.

 Hope to talk to you soon
 Laura
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Don Kelly" <[email protected]
 To: <[email protected]
 Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 7:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FER-GOLD] Rutledges of Fermanah (somewhere)


 Greetings Fermanagh listers. Researchers often ask enquire of my familial
 interests in Fermanagh. Generally is is surnames Owen and Rutledge who
 live
 long ago in Fermanagh and Tyrone.

 Like my crazy Rutledhe cousins, we can make up our minds to which of our
 sets of 4gparents we want to concentrate on finding, so we follow the
 clues
 on the ancestors of the week.

 Enniskillen comes up regularly on this list so I have a story from four
 of
 my Rutledge cousins who visited that area last year. It would be
 fortuitous
 if any of you had the same ancestors in the same area.

 Our visit to Enniskillen: Its a very long story so if anyone is
 interested
 I'll write the other four chapters offlist.

 Don Kelly
 ==============================
 Chapter I (prelude)

 What a wonderful story.  Thanks for sharing it!!!!!
 Marcia in CA
 On Feb 18, 2005, at 4:18 AM, Jan Roggy wrote:

  Oh, aren't we the witty one this morning!!!!  That was good Ron.  I
  found her on ancestry.com last night as Hext, but there was no parents
  listed. Becoming a Rutledge couldn't have been a hex(t) nor a hert! It
  had to have been the best thing that ever happened in her life! I
  think we all need someone to research for us in Fermanaugh Co. Maybe
  that is the link we're all waiting for!  This might be a good time to
  share a story that my cousin shared with me. She, her 2 sisters and
  another cousin went to Ireland last fall, and shared this when they
  got home.

  Helen -  Jean and Carol told me to write to you to tell you about our
  Rutledge event on our trip to Ireland.  Since it has taken me more
  than two weeks to do it, they may have gotten disgusted and already
  written to you, or perhaps Patty has told you.   But here is my
  version of our Rutledge encounter.

  We four were staying in Enniskillen in County Fermanagh in Northern
  Ireland. We had gone there on purpose because we had read and been
  told that our Rutledge ancestors came from that area.  Enniskillen is
  a pleasant medium-sized town on rolling land with several lakes.  We
  enjoyed that area so much that we stayed over an extra day.  Among the
  attractions there is a large estate kept up by the National Trust of
  Great Britain named Florence Court.  It was named after a Florence
  Cole so we most definitely visited it.  We learned that the Cole
  family settled there during the "plantation period" of Northern Irish
  history. Some of us (namely me) didn't know that the British were
  setting up plantations in Northern Ireland at about the same time as
  they were establishing them in Virginia.          (I'm going to
  interject here.... Florence Rutledge was my grandfather's sister, and
  she married William C. Cole, thus the Florence Cole connection)

  But you are thinking that I am writing about the Coles and not the
  Rutledges, I imagine.  Never fear...

  Near Enniskillen is the village of Lisbellow.  We all thought that
  might be the actual locale of the Rutledge group.  We all knew we had
  heard of it.  It seemed likely to us that people in the old days might
  have said that they were from Enniskillen since that was the larger
  city just a few miles away.
  In any event we decided to drive to Lisbellow and "raise our glasses"
  in the pub there in honor of our ancestors.

  When we got to Lisbellow late one afternoon, we couldn't find the pub!
  That is unheard of in any Irish settlement so we were going to turn
  around and try the main street one more time.  Lisbellow is really
  quite small.  To turn around I pulled into the driveway of a man
  mowing his yard.  Carol jumped out of the car and said to the man,
  "Where is the pub? "  He thought she was a bit odd and was more than a
  little startled to suddenly be faced with an American woman in his
  yard.  He said something like, "Why do you want a pub?"  Carol said,
  "We are going to toast our ancestors whom we think came from
  Lisbellow."  The man told Carol that he couldn't recommend the local
  pub so Carol was getting back in the car when he called to her and
  said,  "What is your family's name?"  Carol said, "Rutledge, but they
  left years ago."  He said, "Well, I know where the Rutledges live."
  He proceeded to give Carol directions to a country road east of the
  village a mile or two.

  So we couldn't resist.  We headed out that way, found the corner he
  had described and started down this country lane.  We got to a house
  that we thought was at the end of the road because the road looked
  even narrower past the house's barn and it was all covered in mud.  So
  I stopped and, somewhat to my surprise, Patty jumped out of the car
  and went up to the house and started knocking on the doors (both front
  and back) and peeking in the windows.  Finally a lady came out of the
  house and Patty asked her if her name was Rutledge.  "Oh, you want Jim
  and Nora," she said.  "They are at the end of the road."  She pointed
  down the muddy lane.

  Well, "in for a penny, in for a pound,"  so we continued down the lane
  which really was the road.  It was paved under the mud.

  Soon we came to a farmyard.  It had a nice house with a pretty garden
  at one end and barns on the other three sides, forming a courtyard
  covered in cobblestones.  Two boys about 10 years old were kicking a
  soccer ball around.  I rolled down my car window and said to the one
  that was closest, "Is your name Rutledge?"  His eyes popped out of his
  head at the sight of four American women suddenly appearing in what
  turned out to be his grandparents barnyard way out in the countryside.
   However, he nodded, "yes, my name is Rutledge."  (The other boy
  informed us that his name was not Rutledge.)

  I asked the boy if he thought his grandmother would talk with us and
  both he and his friend assured us that she was very nice.  So Carol
  and I got out of the car and went up to her door.  (Much to my
  surprise Jean was embarrassed by all of this and at first wouldn't get
  out of the car.)
  We knocked and a sweet, tiny lady in her late 70's appeared.  When she
  made out what we were saying through our funny accents, she said,
  "I'll have to go get Jim!"

  She went into one of the barns and we heard a loud conversation as she
  tried to explain to Jim (who wasn't wearing his hearing aids we
  learned) that there were four American women in their yard who wanted
  to talk to him.  Then Jim appeared, probably 80, with a big smile and
  hands that had seen many years of hard work.  He apologized for his
  appearance as he had been "tending to calves."

  Jim finally realized that all of us were Rutledges.  He seemed quite
  pleased and he and Nora told us that we really should go see his
  brother in the next village, Tempo.  His brother knew more about the
  family. However Jim did know that three Rutledge brothers came
  together from Scotland into Ireland and settled that area.  Also, Jim
  told us that his family plot was in the Tempo churchyard.

  So we said goodbye, thanking them so very much for their friendliness.
  We didn't go see his brother because it was getting dark and we all
  realized that none of us knew by heart exactly what Rutledge had come
  from Northern Ireland and when, so we couldn't ask good questions.
  However, the next morning we did go to the Tempo churchyard and there
  the Rutledges were back three generations  as I recall.  Probably
  Jim's grandfather.  Carol and Patty, I think, wrote down the
  information on the stones.
  Of course, we don't know that these were the right branch of the
  Rutledge family at all.  But we have some sources of information from
  that area that we are going to pursue and the whole experience was
  just lovely.

  -Mary