This may possibly be the Fran�ois Barth�lemi L�orat, manufacturer of playing cards, who worked in Magdeburg between 1707 and 1715. He left Magdeburg, and died in Erlangen 10 years later.
_Andr� L�ORAT _______+
| (.... - 1645) m 1595
_Mondon L�ORAT _______|
| (1598 - 1658) |
| |_Marie D'ANTI _______+
| (.... - 1635) m 1595
_Fran�ois L�ORAT _______|
| (1628 - 1680) m 1660 |
| | _Pierre ROUSSET _____
| | |
| |_Isabeau ROUSSET _____|
| (.... - 1631) |
| |_Jeanne FANGET ______
|
|
|--Barthelemi L�ORAT
| (1661 - 1725)
| _Anthoine JOHANNOT __
| | (.... - 1669)
| _Barthelemi JOHANNOT _|
| | (.... - 1673) |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Marie Jeanne JOHANNOT _|
(.... - 1703) m 1660 |
| ______ PINET ________
| |
|_Anne PINET __________|
|
|_____________________
_Etienne L�ORAT ______+
| (.... - 1647) m 1608
_Etienne L�ORAT ________|
| (1617 - 1668) |
| |_Jeanne Marie CHOMEL _
| (.... - 1650) m 1608
_G�d�on L�ORAT ______|
| (1653 - 1739) m 1681|
| | ______________________
| | |
| |_Fran�oise DE MARSANNE _|
| |
| |______________________
|
|
|--Bartholemy L�ORAT
| (1684 - ....)
| ______________________
| |
| ________________________|
| | |
| | |______________________
| |
|_Catherine VEYRE ____|
m 1681 |
| ______________________
| |
|________________________|
|
|______________________
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
| (1638 - 1687) m 1665
_Etienne L�ORAT ______|
| (1672 - ....) |
| |_Charlotte L�ORAT ___+
| (1643 - 1691) m 1665
_Alexandre L�ORAT ___|
| (1704 - ....) |
| | _____________________
| | |
| |_Marie CHOMEL ________|
| |
| |_____________________
|
|
|--Catherine L�ORAT
|
| _Pierre JOHANNOT ____+
| | (1643 - 1725) m 1681
| _Mathieu JOHANNOT ____|
| | (1682 - 1744) m 1706 |
| | |_Anne BOURGET _______
| | m 1681
|_Anne JOHANNOT ______|
|
| _Isaac PERRIN _______
| |
|_Marie Claire PERRIN _|
(1679 - 1753) m 1706 |
|_Magdelaine VEYRIN __
_____________________
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1583) |
| |_____________________
|
_Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| (.... - 1645) m 1595|
| | _Nicolas MONTCHAL ___+
| | |
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______|
| |
| |_Marguerite ROCHE ___+
|
|
|--Catherine L�ORAT
| (1599 - ....)
| _____________________
| |
| _Jaques D'ANTI ______|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Marie D'ANTI _______|
(.... - 1635) m 1595|
| _____________________
| |
|_Catherine BONNIER __|
|
|_Catherine JAUSSAUD _
_Etienne L�ORAT ______+
| (.... - 1647) m 1608
_Etienne L�ORAT ________|
| (1617 - 1668) |
| |_Jeanne Marie CHOMEL _
| (.... - 1650) m 1608
_G�d�on L�ORAT ______|
| (1653 - 1739) m 1681|
| | ______________________
| | |
| |_Fran�oise DE MARSANNE _|
| |
| |______________________
|
|
|--Catherine Fran�oise L�ORAT
|
| ______________________
| |
| ________________________|
| | |
| | |______________________
| |
|_Catherine VEYRE ____|
m 1681 |
| ______________________
| |
|________________________|
|
|______________________
The death of Charlotte occasioned the following paragraph in the registers:
"LEORAT: Le Maicredi 23me jour de May 1691. Honn�te Charlote Leorat veuve de Sr. Jean Leorat bourgeois est deced�e - par un accident tres-lamentable. Elle �toit all�e � son Domaine appell� Moulez, & s'en revenant sur les trois heures apres midy, se rencontrant au chemin de Sorzieu en un tems ou l'air �toit fort couvert avec pluye, tonnerres & �clairs; il y e�t un si violent qui l'�touffa sur la place ou elle tomba, & se fit sur des pierres quelques contusions au visage, que ceux quie vindrent au secours luy virent tout noircy de la fum�e, & ses coiffes pr�ques br�l�es, & nottamment tout le long de son corps du c�t� gauche que �toit tout noir & comme br�l�. On l'emport�t chez-elle, & le lendemain on l'enterra au Cimetiere hors deome."
It took a great deal of research to decide which of the two contemporary Charlotte L�orats was the subject of this record. We believe we have finally worked it out. The key is that her husband is identified as Jean L�orat, bourgeois. This title is consistently applied to this man to distinguish him from the other Jean L�orat, marchand. Now, the Jean L�orat who was identified as bourgeois is the subject of a marriage contract to Charlotte L�orat, in connection to which there is a ruling for a dispensation. The dispensation was necessary because the parents of the bride and groom were first cousins. Unfortunately, both of the Charlotte L�orats were related in this way to Jean L�orat! But when we list the sponsors of the children of Jean and Charlotte, the matter is clarified. The first child, Magdelaine, was sponsored by Etienne L�orat and Magdelaine Veyrin (Jean's father and Charlotte's mother), while the second child, Andr�, was sponsored by Andr� L�orat and Catherine Perrin (Charlotte's father and, apparently, Jean's mother Catherine Paret). The close relatives of the other Charlotte do not appear among the sponsors at the baptisms of the children of Jean and Charlotte.
_Mondon L�ORAT ______
| (.... - 1583)
_Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| (.... - 1645) m 1595|
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______+
|
_Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| (1604 - 1680) m 1639|
| | _Jaques D'ANTI ______
| | |
| |_Marie D'ANTI _______|
| (.... - 1635) m 1595|
| |_Catherine BONNIER __+
|
|
|--Charlotte L�ORAT
| (1643 - 1691)
| _____________________
| |
| _Andr� VEYRIN _______|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Magdelaine VEYRIN __|
(.... - 1669) m 1639|
| _____________________
| |
|_Jeanne ANDROL ______|
|
|_____________________
Witnesses at the baptism were Jean Laurans and Charlotte Chomel. She is apparently not the Charlotte L�orat killed by lightning in 1691.
_Mondon L�ORAT ______
| (.... - 1583)
_Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| (.... - 1645) m 1595|
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______+
|
_Pierre L�ORAT ______|
| (1596 - 1652) m 1645|
| | _Jaques D'ANTI ______
| | |
| |_Marie D'ANTI _______|
| (.... - 1635) m 1595|
| |_Catherine BONNIER __+
|
|
|--Charlotte L�ORAT
| (1648 - ....)
| _____________________
| |
| _Jaques LAURANS _____|
| | m 1601 |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Marie LAURANS ______|
(1618 - 1681) m 1645|
| ______ BLACHE _______
| |
|_Marie BLACHE _______|
(1573 - ....) m 1601|
|_____________________
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
| (1638 - 1687) m 1665
_Etienne L�ORAT ______|
| (1672 - ....) |
| |_Charlotte L�ORAT ___+
| (1643 - 1691) m 1665
_Alexandre L�ORAT ___|
| (1704 - ....) |
| | _____________________
| | |
| |_Marie CHOMEL ________|
| |
| |_____________________
|
|
|--Claire L�ORAT
|
| _Pierre JOHANNOT ____+
| | (1643 - 1725) m 1681
| _Mathieu JOHANNOT ____|
| | (1682 - 1744) m 1706 |
| | |_Anne BOURGET _______
| | m 1681
|_Anne JOHANNOT ______|
|
| _Isaac PERRIN _______
| |
|_Marie Claire PERRIN _|
(1679 - 1753) m 1706 |
|_Magdelaine VEYRIN __
_Etienne L�ORAT _____+
| (.... - 1659)
_Jean L�ORAT ________________|
| (1638 - 1687) m 1665 |
| |_Catherine PARET ____+
| (1606 - 1666)
_Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| (.... - 1756) m 1694|
| | _Andr� L�ORAT _______+
| | | (1604 - 1680) m 1639
| |_Charlotte L�ORAT ___________|
| (1643 - 1691) m 1665 |
| |_Magdelaine VEYRIN __+
| (.... - 1669) m 1639
|
|--Claire L�ORAT
|
| _Claude LAGRANGE ____
| | (1600 - 1686)
| _Louis LAGRANGE _____________|
| | (1638 - 1711) m 1664 |
| | |_Jeanne ROUSSET _____+
| | (1607 - 1674)
|_Jeanne LAGRANGE ____|
(1672 - 1756) m 1694|
| _Pierre L�ORAT ______+
| | (1596 - 1652) m 1645
|_Isabeau (Elizabeth) L�ORAT _|
(1646 - 1719) m 1664 |
|_Marie LAURANS ______+
(1618 - 1681) m 1645
_Etienne L�ORAT ______+
| (1672 - ....)
_Alexandre L�ORAT ___|
| (1704 - ....) |
| |_Marie CHOMEL ________
|
_Pierre Mathieu L�ORAT _|
| m 1775 |
| | _Mathieu JOHANNOT ____+
| | | (1682 - 1744) m 1706
| |_Anne JOHANNOT ______|
| |
| |_Marie Claire PERRIN _+
| (1679 - 1753) m 1706
|
|--Claire Elizabeth L�ORAT
| (1776 - ....)
| ______________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |______________________
| |
|_Elizabeth GISCARD _____|
m 1775 |
| ______________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|______________________
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
|
_Etienne L�ORAT _____|
| (.... - 1659) |
| |_Jeanne SALA ________
|
_Jean L�ORAT ________|
| (1638 - 1687) m 1665|
| | _Pierre PARET _______+
| | | (.... - 1629)
| |_Catherine PARET ____|
| (1606 - 1666) |
| |_Louise CHOGNARD ____+
|
|
|--Elizabeth L�ORAT
| (1681 - ....)
| _Andr� L�ORAT _______+
| | (.... - 1645) m 1595
| _Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| | (1604 - 1680) m 1639|
| | |_Marie D'ANTI _______+
| | (.... - 1635) m 1595
|_Charlotte L�ORAT ___|
(1643 - 1691) m 1665|
| _Andr� VEYRIN _______
| |
|_Magdelaine VEYRIN __|
(.... - 1669) m 1639|
|_Jeanne ANDROL ______
Identified as Isabeau, wife of Fran�ois Chanal, in one record, and in another as the daughter of Etienne L�orat, bourgeois, who married Fran�ois Chanal.
_____________________
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1583) |
| |_____________________
|
_Etienne L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1647) m 1608 |
| | _Nicolas MONTCHAL ___+
| | |
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______|
| |
| |_Marguerite ROCHE ___+
|
|
|--Elizabeth (Isabeau) L�ORAT
| (1626 - ....)
| _____________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Jeanne Marie CHOMEL _|
(.... - 1650) m 1608 |
| _____________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|_____________________
_____________________
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1583) |
| |_____________________
|
_Pierre L�ORAT ______|
| m 1600 |
| | _Nicolas MONTCHAL ___+
| | |
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______|
| |
| |_Marguerite ROCHE ___+
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (1604 - ....)
| _____________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Jeanne FRESSENEL ___|
m 1600 |
| _____________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|_____________________
This appears to be the Etienne who married Fran�oise de Marsanne. Father and son appear with exactly the same phraseology, so that we at first believed the father lived until 1670, until we discovered his death record. Now it appears there were at least three men of the same name described the same way.
_____________________
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1583) |
| |_____________________
|
_Etienne L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1647) m 1608 |
| | _Nicolas MONTCHAL ___+
| | |
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______|
| |
| |_Marguerite ROCHE ___+
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (1617 - 1668)
| _____________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Jeanne Marie CHOMEL _|
(.... - 1650) m 1608 |
| _____________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|_____________________
Occupation listed in 1673 as greffier de la cour des Equivallens.
_Mondon L�ORAT _______
| (.... - 1583)
_Jean L�ORAT ________|
| |
| |_Anne MONTCHAL _______+
|
_Etienne L�ORAT _____|
| (.... - 1659) |
| | ______________________
| | |
| |_Jeanne SALA ________|
| |
| |______________________
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (1639 - ....)
| ______ PARET _________
| |
| _Pierre PARET _______|
| | (.... - 1629) |
| | |_Anthoinette VIGIERE _
| |
|_Catherine PARET ____|
(1606 - 1666) |
| _Jean CHOGNARD _______
| | (.... - 1606)
|_Louise CHOGNARD ____|
|
|______________________
There were at least 3 Etienne L�orats who married at least 3 Marie Chomels! The wife in this case is listed in La France Moderne as Jeanne Marie Chomel, but she is identified at every baptism where she appears simply as Marie Chomel, in the protestant registers at Annonay. In 1619, Etienne is identified as "greffier des gabelles", 1633 as "juge grevetier", and 1636 as "bourgeois", the latter apparently to distinguish him from his nephew Etienne the tailor. Evidently, references to Etienne L�orat bourgeois as late as 1670 must be to the younger Etienne "bourgeois", who seems to be his son.
_____________________
|
_____________________|
| |
| |_____________________
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1583) |
| | _____________________
| | |
| |_____________________|
| |
| |_____________________
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (.... - 1647)
| _Joseph MONTCHAL ____
| |
| _Nicolas MONTCHAL ___|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Anne MONTCHAL ______|
|
| _Pierre ROCHE _______
| |
|_Marguerite ROCHE ___|
|
|_____________________
La France Moderne adds another child, G�d�on, but he seems to belong instead with Etienne L�orat (son of Etienne) who married Fran�oise de Marsanne.
_____________________
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1583) |
| |_____________________
|
_Jean L�ORAT ________|
| |
| | _Nicolas MONTCHAL ___+
| | |
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______|
| |
| |_Marguerite ROCHE ___+
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (.... - 1659)
| _____________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Jeanne SALA ________|
|
| _____________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|_____________________
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
|
_Anthoine L�ORAT ____|
| |
| |_Jeanne SALA ________
|
_Jean L�ORAT ________|
| (1634 - ....) m 1654|
| | _____________________
| | |
| |_Magdelaine GUERIN __|
| |
| |_____________________
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (1667 - ....)
| _____________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Isabeau R�CLE ______|
m 1654 |
| _____________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|_____________________
Witnesses at the baptism were Etienne L�orat, greffier, and Jeanne Androl widow of the late Andr� Veyrin.
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
|
_Etienne L�ORAT _____|
| (.... - 1659) |
| |_Jeanne SALA ________
|
_Jean L�ORAT ________|
| (1638 - 1687) m 1665|
| | _Pierre PARET _______+
| | | (.... - 1629)
| |_Catherine PARET ____|
| (1606 - 1666) |
| |_Louise CHOGNARD ____+
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (1668 - ....)
| _Andr� L�ORAT _______+
| | (.... - 1645) m 1595
| _Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| | (1604 - 1680) m 1639|
| | |_Marie D'ANTI _______+
| | (.... - 1635) m 1595
|_Charlotte L�ORAT ___|
(1643 - 1691) m 1665|
| _Andr� VEYRIN _______
| |
|_Magdelaine VEYRIN __|
(.... - 1669) m 1639|
|_Jeanne ANDROL ______
Witnesses at the baptism were Etienne Fressenel and Jeanne L�orat, daughter of the late Pierre L�orat, advocat, and of Marie Laurans her mother.
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
|
_Etienne L�ORAT _____|
| (.... - 1659) |
| |_Jeanne SALA ________
|
_Jean L�ORAT ________|
| (1638 - 1687) m 1665|
| | _Pierre PARET _______+
| | | (.... - 1629)
| |_Catherine PARET ____|
| (1606 - 1666) |
| |_Louise CHOGNARD ____+
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (1672 - ....)
| _Andr� L�ORAT _______+
| | (.... - 1645) m 1595
| _Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| | (1604 - 1680) m 1639|
| | |_Marie D'ANTI _______+
| | (.... - 1635) m 1595
|_Charlotte L�ORAT ___|
(1643 - 1691) m 1665|
| _Andr� VEYRIN _______
| |
|_Magdelaine VEYRIN __|
(.... - 1669) m 1639|
|_Jeanne ANDROL ______
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
|
_Etienne L�ORAT _____|
| (.... - 1659) |
| |_Jeanne SALA ________
|
_Etienne L�ORAT _____|
| (1639 - ....) |
| | _Pierre PARET _______+
| | | (.... - 1629)
| |_Catherine PARET ____|
| (1606 - 1666) |
| |_Louise CHOGNARD ____+
|
|
|--Etienne L�ORAT
| (1677 - ....)
| _____________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Marie CHOMEL _______|
|
| _____________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|_____________________
_____________________
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (.... - 1583) |
| |_____________________
|
_Pierre L�ORAT ______|
| m 1600 |
| | _Nicolas MONTCHAL ___+
| | |
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______|
| |
| |_Marguerite ROCHE ___+
|
|
|--Eve L�ORAT
| (1614 - ....)
| _____________________
| |
| _____________________|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Jeanne FRESSENEL ___|
m 1600 |
| _____________________
| |
|_____________________|
|
|_____________________
_Mondon L�ORAT ______
| (.... - 1583)
_Andr� L�ORAT _______|
| (.... - 1645) m 1595|
| |_Anne MONTCHAL ______+
|
_Mondon L�ORAT ______|
| (1598 - 1658) |
| | _Jaques D'ANTI ______
| | |
| |_Marie D'ANTI _______|
| (.... - 1635) m 1595|
| |_Catherine BONNIER __+
|
|
|--Fran�ois L�ORAT
| (1628 - 1680)
| _____________________
| |
| _Pierre ROUSSET _____|
| | |
| | |_____________________
| |
|_Isabeau ROUSSET ____|
(.... - 1631) |
| _____________________
| |
|_Jeanne FANGET ______|
|
|_____________________
Citation in Leiden Index gives parents, date of burial, and age at death as 3 year, 4 months, 15 days. No other records for this family appear in this index.
_Mondon L�ORAT _______+
| (1598 - 1658)
_Fran�ois L�ORAT _______|
| (1628 - 1680) m 1660 |
| |_Isabeau ROUSSET _____+
| (.... - 1631)
_Barthelemi L�ORAT __|
| (1661 - 1725) m 1699|
| | _Barthelemi JOHANNOT _+
| | | (.... - 1673)
| |_Marie Jeanne JOHANNOT _|
| (.... - 1703) m 1660 |
| |_Anne PINET __________+
|
|
|--Fran�ois L�ORAT
| (1706 - ....)
| ______________________
| |
| ________________________|
| | |
| | |______________________
| |
|_Jeanne CARRON ______|
m 1699 |
| ______________________
| |
|________________________|
|
|______________________
_Jean L�ORAT ________+
| (1638 - 1687) m 1665
_Etienne L�ORAT ______|
| (1672 - ....) |
| |_Charlotte L�ORAT ___+
| (1643 - 1691) m 1665
_Alexandre L�ORAT ___|
| (1704 - ....) |
| | _____________________
| | |
| |_Marie CHOMEL ________|
| |
| |_____________________
|
|
|--Fran�ois L�ORAT
| (1738 - 1747)
| _Pierre JOHANNOT ____+
| | (1643 - 1725) m 1681
| _Mathieu JOHANNOT ____|
| | (1682 - 1744) m 1706 |
| | |_Anne BOURGET _______
| | m 1681
|_Anne JOHANNOT ______|
|
| _Isaac PERRIN _______
| |
|_Marie Claire PERRIN _|
(1679 - 1753) m 1706 |
|_Magdelaine VEYRIN __