I26624: Bartholomeus DE PREZ (dates unknown)

DUTOIT: A Family from Moudon, Switzerland

Bartholomeus DE PREZ       (ID #I26624)

(male)
Father: Jean DE PREZ (dates unknown)

Family 1 :
  1. +Aym� DE PREZ (d. AFT 1575?)

 

                                             __
                                            |  
                       _Guy DE PREZ ________|
                      |                     |
                      |                     |__
                      |                        
 _Jean DE PREZ _______|
|                     |
|                     |                      __
|                     |                     |  
|                     |_Jeannette _____ ____|
|                                           |
|                                           |__
|                                              
|
|--Bartholomeus DE PREZ 
|  
|                                            __
|                                           |  
|                      _____________________|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |__
|                     |                        
|_____________________|
                      |
                      |                      __
                      |                     |  
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |__
                                               

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Ferdinand DE PREZ       (ID #I25267)

(male)
Father: Gabriel DE PREZ (d. bef 1598)
Mother: Antoine de Saint JOYRE (dates unknown)

 

                                                        _Bartholomeus DE PREZ _+
                                                       |                       
                           _Aym� DE PREZ ______________|
                          | (.... - 1575) m 1540       |
                          |                            |_______________________
                          |                                                    
 _Gabriel DE PREZ ________|
| (.... - 1598)           |
|                         |                             _Jean DE VILLARZEL ____+
|                         |                            | (.... - 1517)         
|                         |_Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
|                            m 1540                    |
|                                                      |_Clauda DE LA MOLI�RE _+
|                                                                              
|
|--Ferdinand DE PREZ 
|  
|                                                       _______________________
|                                                      |                       
|                          ____________________________|
|                         |                            |
|                         |                            |_______________________
|                         |                                                    
|_Antoine de Saint JOYRE _|
                          |
                          |                             _______________________
                          |                            |                       
                          |____________________________|
                                                       |
                                                       |_______________________
                                                                               

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Fran�ois DE PREZ       (ID #I25266)

(male)
Father: Gabriel DE PREZ (d. bef 1598)
Mother: Antoine de Saint JOYRE (dates unknown)

 

                                                        _Bartholomeus DE PREZ _+
                                                       |                       
                           _Aym� DE PREZ ______________|
                          | (.... - 1575) m 1540       |
                          |                            |_______________________
                          |                                                    
 _Gabriel DE PREZ ________|
| (.... - 1598)           |
|                         |                             _Jean DE VILLARZEL ____+
|                         |                            | (.... - 1517)         
|                         |_Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
|                            m 1540                    |
|                                                      |_Clauda DE LA MOLI�RE _+
|                                                                              
|
|--Fran�ois DE PREZ 
|  
|                                                       _______________________
|                                                      |                       
|                          ____________________________|
|                         |                            |
|                         |                            |_______________________
|                         |                                                    
|_Antoine de Saint JOYRE _|
                          |
                          |                             _______________________
                          |                            |                       
                          |____________________________|
                                                       |
                                                       |_______________________
                                                                               

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Fran�ois DE PREZ       (ID #I18150)

(male)
Father: Aym� DE PREZ (d. AFT 1575?)
Mother: Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Bernardine D'AVENCHES (d. 1562)

 

Implicated in the "Conjuration d'Isbrand Daux", he fled with his family to Savoie, where he remained. We assume that he is the same Fran�ois de Prez who married Bernardine d'Avenches, widow of Claude de Praroman, but it is possible the latter Fran�ois belongs to an earlier generation.

                                                      _Jean DE PREZ __________+
                                                     |                        
                              _Bartholomeus DE PREZ _|
                             |                       |
                             |                       |________________________
                             |                                                
 _Aym� DE PREZ ______________|
| (.... - 1575) m 1540       |
|                            |                        ________________________
|                            |                       |                        
|                            |_______________________|
|                                                    |
|                                                    |________________________
|                                                                             
|
|--Fran�ois DE PREZ 
|  (.... - 1588)
|                                                     _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
|                                                    |                        
|                             _Jean DE VILLARZEL ____|
|                            | (.... - 1517)         |
|                            |                       |_Isabella DE VAUMARCUS _+
|                            |                                                
|_Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
   m 1540                    |
                             |                        _Petrus DE LA MOLI�RE __
                             |                       |                        
                             |_Clauda DE LA MOLI�RE _|
                                                     |
                                                     |________________________
                                                                              

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Fran�oise DE PREZ       (ID #I25494)

(female)
Father: Aym� DE PREZ (d. AFT 1575?)
Mother: Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Jean PAVILLARD (dates unknown)
  1. +Lucie PAVILLARD (dates unknown)
Family 2 : Fran�ois MESTRAL (DE RUE) (d. bef 1574)

 

                                                      _Jean DE PREZ __________+
                                                     |                        
                              _Bartholomeus DE PREZ _|
                             |                       |
                             |                       |________________________
                             |                                                
 _Aym� DE PREZ ______________|
| (.... - 1575) m 1540       |
|                            |                        ________________________
|                            |                       |                        
|                            |_______________________|
|                                                    |
|                                                    |________________________
|                                                                             
|
|--Fran�oise DE PREZ 
|  (.... - 1568)
|                                                     _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
|                                                    |                        
|                             _Jean DE VILLARZEL ____|
|                            | (.... - 1517)         |
|                            |                       |_Isabella DE VAUMARCUS _+
|                            |                                                
|_Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
   m 1540                    |
                             |                        _Petrus DE LA MOLI�RE __
                             |                       |                        
                             |_Clauda DE LA MOLI�RE _|
                                                     |
                                                     |________________________
                                                                              

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Gabriel DE PREZ       (ID #I18152)

(male)
Father: Aym� DE PREZ (d. AFT 1575?)
Mother: Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Antoine de Saint JOYRE (dates unknown)
  1.  Fran�ois DE PREZ (dates unknown)
  2.  Ferdinand DE PREZ (dates unknown)
  3.  Jean Gaspard DE PREZ (dates unknown)

 

He enrolled at the University of Basel in 1552/53, cited as "Gabriel de Pret a Corcellis Bernas" (in other words, Gabriel de Prez Sr. de Corcelles, from the territory of Bern) and as "Gabriel Propinquus Lustreiensis" (in this case, translating his surname as if it were "de pr�s", meaning "nearby", and placing his origin at Lutry, where the de Prez family had an ancient residence). As a result of his brother's implied participation in the "Conspiration d'Isbrand Daux", he seems to have settled in Chablais, but had died by 1598, when Isbrand de Crousaz purchased property from his heirs.

                                                      _Jean DE PREZ __________+
                                                     |                        
                              _Bartholomeus DE PREZ _|
                             |                       |
                             |                       |________________________
                             |                                                
 _Aym� DE PREZ ______________|
| (.... - 1575) m 1540       |
|                            |                        ________________________
|                            |                       |                        
|                            |_______________________|
|                                                    |
|                                                    |________________________
|                                                                             
|
|--Gabriel DE PREZ 
|  (.... - 1598)
|                                                     _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
|                                                    |                        
|                             _Jean DE VILLARZEL ____|
|                            | (.... - 1517)         |
|                            |                       |_Isabella DE VAUMARCUS _+
|                            |                                                
|_Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
   m 1540                    |
                             |                        _Petrus DE LA MOLI�RE __
                             |                       |                        
                             |_Clauda DE LA MOLI�RE _|
                                                     |
                                                     |________________________
                                                                              

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Guy DE PREZ       (ID #I25601)

(male)
Family 1 : Jeannette _____ (dates unknown)
  1. +Jean DE PREZ (dates unknown)

 

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Jean DE PREZ       (ID #I25600)

(male)
Father: Guy DE PREZ (dates unknown)
Mother: Jeannette _____ (dates unknown)

Family 1 :
  1. +Bartholomeus DE PREZ (dates unknown)

 

                          __
                         |  
                       __|
                      |  |
                      |  |__
                      |     
 _Guy DE PREZ ________|
|                     |
|                     |   __
|                     |  |  
|                     |__|
|                        |
|                        |__
|                           
|
|--Jean DE PREZ 
|  
|                         __
|                        |  
|                      __|
|                     |  |
|                     |  |__
|                     |     
|_Jeannette _____ ____|
                      |
                      |   __
                      |  |  
                      |__|
                         |
                         |__
                            

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Jean Gaspard DE PREZ       (ID #I25268)

(male)
Father: Gabriel DE PREZ (d. bef 1598)
Mother: Antoine de Saint JOYRE (dates unknown)

 

                                                        _Bartholomeus DE PREZ _+
                                                       |                       
                           _Aym� DE PREZ ______________|
                          | (.... - 1575) m 1540       |
                          |                            |_______________________
                          |                                                    
 _Gabriel DE PREZ ________|
| (.... - 1598)           |
|                         |                             _Jean DE VILLARZEL ____+
|                         |                            | (.... - 1517)         
|                         |_Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
|                            m 1540                    |
|                                                      |_Clauda DE LA MOLI�RE _+
|                                                                              
|
|--Jean Gaspard DE PREZ 
|  
|                                                       _______________________
|                                                      |                       
|                          ____________________________|
|                         |                            |
|                         |                            |_______________________
|                         |                                                    
|_Antoine de Saint JOYRE _|
                          |
                          |                             _______________________
                          |                            |                       
                          |____________________________|
                                                       |
                                                       |_______________________
                                                                               

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Jeanne DE PREZ       (ID #I28160)

(female)
Father: Aym� DE PREZ (d. AFT 1575?)
Mother: Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Fran�ois DE GRUY�RE (d. bef 1566)
  1.  Daniel DE GRUY�RE (dates unknown)
Family 2 : Fran�ois GACHET (d. 31 OCT 1575)
  1. +Magdelaine GACHET (b. ABT 1571)

 

Marriage contract dated 29 apr 1566 recorded by Beno�t Nible, notary of Payerne (ACV Dp 73/2, fol. 243) gives her parentage and the name of her previous husband. The discovery of this contract explains the fact that Fran�ois Gachet died at the house of Noble Aym� de Prez in Lutry, who is now found to be his father-in-law.

                                                      _Jean DE PREZ __________+
                                                     |                        
                              _Bartholomeus DE PREZ _|
                             |                       |
                             |                       |________________________
                             |                                                
 _Aym� DE PREZ ______________|
| (.... - 1575) m 1540       |
|                            |                        ________________________
|                            |                       |                        
|                            |_______________________|
|                                                    |
|                                                    |________________________
|                                                                             
|
|--Jeanne DE PREZ 
|  
|                                                     _Boniface DE VILLARZEL _+
|                                                    |                        
|                             _Jean DE VILLARZEL ____|
|                            | (.... - 1517)         |
|                            |                       |_Isabella DE VAUMARCUS _+
|                            |                                                
|_Aim�e (Emaz) DE VILLARZEL _|
   m 1540                    |
                             |                        _Petrus DE LA MOLI�RE __
                             |                       |                        
                             |_Clauda DE LA MOLI�RE _|
                                                     |
                                                     |________________________
                                                                              

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Nicod DE PREZ       (ID #I25493)

(male)
Family 1 : Isabelle DE COLOMBIER (dates unknown)

 

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Anne Marie DE PURY       (ID #I28143)

(female)
Family 1 : Daniel DE TREY (b. 1648, d. AFT 1710)
  1. +Samuel DE TREY (b. 1686, d. 1762)

 

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Susanne Marie DE PURY       (ID #I13943)

(female)
Family 1 : Daniel MALVESIN (dates unknown)
  1.  Pierre Henry MALVESIN (dates unknown)

 

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Jaques Louis DE R�GNIER       (ID #I13805)

(male)
Family 1 : Louise Jeanne Fran�oise CHAVANNES (b. 27 FEB 1761, d. 25 SEP 1823)

 

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Marc DE RIBEAUPIERRE       (ID #I25580)

(male)
Family 1 :
  1.  Susanne Elizabeth DE RIBEAUPIERRE (dates unknown)

 

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Susanne Elizabeth DE RIBEAUPIERRE       (ID #I10952)

(female)
Father: Marc DE RIBEAUPIERRE (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Daniel Louis FROSSARD (b. 16 SEP 1752, d. 1 JUN 1808)

 

                            __
                           |  
                         __|
                        |  |
                        |  |__
                        |     
 _Marc DE RIBEAUPIERRE _|
|                       |
|                       |   __
|                       |  |  
|                       |__|
|                          |
|                          |__
|                             
|
|--Susanne Elizabeth DE RIBEAUPIERRE 
|  
|                           __
|                          |  
|                        __|
|                       |  |
|                       |  |__
|                       |     
|_______________________|
                        |
                        |   __
                        |  |  
                        |__|
                           |
                           |__
                              

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Catherine DE RIVE       (ID #I17028)

(female)
Father: Rolet DE RIVE (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Willi MOSSU (dates unknown)
Family 2 : Nicolas VON DIESBACH (dates unknown)
Family 3 : Vuillelme DE PRAROMAN (d. ABT 1459)

 

                          __
                         |  
                       __|
                      |  |
                      |  |__
                      |     
 _Rolet DE RIVE ______|
|                     |
|                     |   __
|                     |  |  
|                     |__|
|                        |
|                        |__
|                           
|
|--Catherine DE RIVE 
|  
|                         __
|                        |  
|                      __|
|                     |  |
|                     |  |__
|                     |     
|_____________________|
                      |
                      |   __
                      |  |  
                      |__|
                         |
                         |__
                            

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Claude DE RIVE       (ID #I16621)

(male)
Father: Oddet DE RIVE (b. bef 1400, d. BEF 1492)
Mother: Isabelle BERTIN (d. AFT 1492)

 

Listed as the late brother of either Jean de Rive or of Jacob son of Jean de Rive in an ambiguously worded document recorded by Pierre Chuard in 1538. Since Claude brother of Jacob de Rive appears in a document of Aim� Chuard in 1544, the earlier reference implies the existence of Claude, brother of Jean de Rive.

                                             _____________________
                                            |                     
                       _Jaquetus DE RIVE ___|
                      | (.... - 1432)       |
                      |                     |_____________________
                      |                                           
 _Oddet DE RIVE ______|
| (1400 - 1492) m 1459|
|                     |                      _Pierre FOLA ________
|                     |                     |                     
|                     |_Fran�oise FOLA _____|
|                       (.... - 1463)       |
|                                           |_____________________
|                                                                 
|
|--Claude DE RIVE 
|  (.... - 1538)
|                                            _____________________
|                                           |                     
|                      _Jaquetus BERTHIN ___|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |_____________________
|                     |                                           
|_Isabelle BERTIN ____|
  (.... - 1492) m 1459|
                      |                      _____________________
                      |                     |                     
                      |_Agnelleta _____ ____|
                                            |
                                            |_____________________
                                                                  

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Claude DE RIVE       (ID #I16618)

(male)
Father: Jean DE RIVE (d. BEF 1505)
Mother: Perronette MELLET (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Isabelle GLASER (dates unknown)

 

Since he and his brother Jacob de Rive were clearly alive to transact business in 1544 (second register of Aim� Chuard, notary at Payerne, fol. 67, dated 13 mar 1544), it follows that the mention of "the late" Claude de Rive in a document of 1538 (Pierre Chuard, notary, father of Aim� Chuard) must refer to a brother of Jean de Rive, even though the construction of this passage is otherwise ambiguous. On the other hand, it is possible that there is some other explanation, such as a scribal error, for the transaction of 1544.

                                             _Jaquetus DE RIVE ___
                                            | (.... - 1432)       
                       _Oddet DE RIVE ______|
                      | (1400 - 1492) m 1459|
                      |                     |_Fran�oise FOLA _____+
                      |                       (.... - 1463)       
 _Jean DE RIVE _______|
| (.... - 1505) m 1483|
|                     |                      _Jaquetus BERTHIN ___
|                     |                     |                     
|                     |_Isabelle BERTIN ____|
|                       (.... - 1492) m 1459|
|                                           |_Agnelleta _____ ____
|                                                                 
|
|--Claude DE RIVE 
|  (.... - 1544)
|                                            _____________________
|                                           |                     
|                      _Jaques MELLET ______|
|                     | (.... - 1483)       |
|                     |                     |_____________________
|                     |                                           
|_Perronette MELLET __|
   m 1483             |
                      |                      _____________________
                      |                     |                     
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |_____________________
                                                                  

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Francesia DE RIVE       (ID #I25450)

(female)
Father: Jaquetus DE RIVE (d. bef 1432)
Mother: Fran�oise FOLA (d. bef 1463)

Family 1 : Berardius du CHASTELLARD (dates unknown)

 

She is mentioned in the terrier ACV Fm 52 several times, notably in the descriptions of the parties holding the seigneurie of the fiefs enumerated.

                                             __
                                            |  
                       _____________________|
                      |                     |
                      |                     |__
                      |                        
 _Jaquetus DE RIVE ___|
| (.... - 1432)       |
|                     |                      __
|                     |                     |  
|                     |_____________________|
|                                           |
|                                           |__
|                                              
|
|--Francesia DE RIVE 
|  
|                                            __
|                                           |  
|                      _Pierre FOLA ________|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |__
|                     |                        
|_Fran�oise FOLA _____|
  (.... - 1463)       |
                      |                      __
                      |                     |  
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |__
                                               

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Fran�oise DE RIVE       (ID #I16634)

(female)
Father: George DE RIVE (d. 20 JUN 1552)
Mother: Isabelle DE VAUMARCUS (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Fran�ois DE SUPERSAXO (d. BEF 1532)
Family 2 : Johann Rochus VON DIESBACH (b. 4 JUN 1501, d. 28 DEC 1546)
  1. +Georges DE DIESBACH (dates unknown)

 

Interesting information is contained in a "grosse de reconnaissances" prepared in 1774 by Nillon, from which the history of the seigneurie de Givrins was published in the Revue historique vaudoise in 1906. Nillon calls the first husband of Fran�oise de Rive "noble Franz Dessus l'Esel".

                                                     _Jaquetus DE RIVE _________
                                                    | (.... - 1432)             
                          _Oddet DE RIVE ___________|
                         | (1400 - 1492) m 1459     |
                         |                          |_Fran�oise FOLA ___________+
                         |                            (.... - 1463)             
 _George DE RIVE ________|
| (.... - 1552) m 1510   |
|                        |                           _Jaquetus BERTHIN _________
|                        |                          |                           
|                        |_Isabelle BERTIN _________|
|                          (.... - 1492) m 1459     |
|                                                   |_Agnelleta _____ __________
|                                                                               
|
|--Fran�oise DE RIVE 
|  (.... - 1591)
|                                                    ___________________________
|                                                   |                           
|                         _Roland DE VAUMARCUS _____|
|                        |                          |
|                        |                          |___________________________
|                        |                                                      
|_Isabelle DE VAUMARCUS _|
   m 1510                |
                         |                           _Thuring VON RINGOLTINGEN _
                         |                          |                           
                         |_Sophie VON RINGOLTINGEN _|
                                                    |
                                                    |___________________________
                                                                                

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George DE RIVE       (ID #I16635)

(male)
Father: Oddet DE RIVE (b. bef 1400, d. BEF 1492)
Mother: Isabelle BERTIN (d. AFT 1492)

Family 1 : Isabelle DE VAUMARCUS (dates unknown)
  1. +Fran�oise DE RIVE (d. 8 FEB 1591)
  2.  Marguerite DE RIVE (d. aft 1567)
  3. +Jeanne DE RIVE (d. aft 1570)

 

Two sets of parents have been suggested. The most "popular" choice seems to be Am�d�e de Rive and Isabelle de Compois. Before George de Rive purchased the seigneurie of Prangins, it had belonged to the de Compois family; however, if he had these parents, it seems most likely he would have inherited Prangins, and so would not have needed to buy it! The other possibility for the parentage of George is Oddet de Rive and Isabelle Bertin.

The latter parentage appears to be correct, as first suggested by Alexandre Daguet ("Essai sur Georges de Rive seigneur de Prangins, second gouverneur de Neuch�tel (1529-1552) et ses relations avec l'avoyer Faulcon (Falk) de Fribourg (1516-1519)", in Mus�e Neuch�telois, 19:57-64, 100-104, 124-128, 1882), based on a letter in the de Praroman collection at the archives of Fribourg. The undated letter, evidently from the Saturday after Christmas in 1517 or 1518, is addressed from George de Ryve to Pyerre Faulcon, advoyer de Frybourg. In the context of negotiations concerning Neuch�tel, George says that he is staying with his brother Jean, evidently at Payerne: "Je fusse allez de compaygnie avecque mon frere Jehan..." He has also called Falck "mon fr�re", clearly an informal use of the term, but explicable if George was indeed the brother of Jean de Rive, who had married Antonia, sister of Pierre Falck. Further, if George had been staying with Jean Falck, brother of Pierre, we think it would have been more honorific and far more natural to call him "votre frere Jehan". We have not established whether Jean Falck might have been living in Payerne at that time. However, by far the most plausible solution to the relationships and parentage of George de Rive would be that he was another son of Oddet de Rive.

Daguet notes citations that place George de Rive in military service in France 1499-1500, as well as citations that he interprets as evidence of citizenship in Bern about that time. Daguet also highlights many other interesting relationships that help to explain this central figure in the history of Neuch�tel.

Immediately upon the publication of Daguet's "Essai", he received a letter from P�re Gremaud, which was published in the same volume of the Mus�e Neuchatelois ("Appendice � la biographie de Georges de Rive deuxi�me gouverneur de Neuch�tel", pp. 175-176), which contains several interesting developments:

Dans le num�ro de mars de cette ann�e, page 63, j'ai cherch� � expliquer les relations du second gouverneur de Neuch�tel avec le fameux Avoyer Faulcon ou Falk de Fribourg par l'origine payernoise commune de ces deux personnages. Je soup�onnais une parent� entre eux sans pouvoir l'�tablir positivement. Mais la lettre suivante de M. l'abb� Gremaud, le savant biblioth�caire cantonal et professeur d'histoire � Fribourg, l�ve tout doute � cet �gard, et nous fait conna�tre les rapports de famille qui existaient entre les Faulcon et les De Rive. Je donne la parole � mon honorable correspondant de Fribourg :

>«J'ai lu avec int�r�t votre notice sur Georges de Rive, qui contient des d�tails r�ellement nouveaux. Sur les relations de ce personnage avec les Faulcon, je puis vous donner un renseignement int�ressant.

«Le 11 septembre 1525, le vicaire g�n�ral (Claude Marchiandi, prieur de Rougemont) de Jean de Foresta, abb� de Payerne, donna � cens diverses terres de cette abbaye � noble Georges de Rive. L'une de ces terres est limit�e ainsi : «In dominio Paterniaci... juxta terram prefati nobilis Georgii de Rippa et Jacobi de Rippa ejus nepotis quam tenet Anthonia relicta Johannis de Rippa uxor Danyelis May de Friburgo, filiaque quondam Berardi Faulcon dicti loci Friburgi in assignationem dotis.»

«Ainsi, Anthonie, fille de B�rard Faulcon (soeur de l'avoyer), avait �pous� en premi�res noces Jean de Rive, qui, d'apr�s le contexte, devait �tre fr�re de Georges et p�re de Jacques, neveu de ce dernier; autrement on ne pourrait pas expliquer ce passage. Devenue veuve, Antonie �pousa Daniel May ou Meyer de Fribourg.

«La femme de B�rard Faulcon s'appelait Perroneta; son nom de famille n'est pas connu. En second noces, elle �pousa cet Aymon de Torculari dont vous avez parl� dans votre notice; elle parait avec celui-ci dans un acte du 2 d�cembre 1482, et Aymon y est qualifi� «rector scolarum Gallicorum (sic Friburgi [rector of the school of the French, or of those students who speak French, at Fribourg].»

«Votre tout d�vou�
«P. Gremaud.»

A. Daguet

(The correspondent is P�re Jean Gremaud 1823-1897, prolific historian and president for over 30 years of the Soci�t� d'histoire du canton de Fribourg.)

We suggest a slightly different explanation of the evidence that Daguet thought implied citizenship in Bern. The situation was that Fribourg asked Bern to exert some control over George de Rive, because he had been recruiting soldiers in the territory of Fribourg for service in France. Now, the privilege of recruiting for private mercenary regiments was supposed to be tightly controlled by the governments of the cantons. Private recruiting was nevertheless rampant, if we can judge from the frequent controversies as well as the almost constant appearance of Swiss troops on both sides of almost every conflict in Europe. But when political expediency required, the governments had to try to stop private regiments serving on the "wrong" side. For example, in 1510 we find Louis Sterner, bourgeois and Notaire-Jur� of Fribourg, along with two pillars of that city, Jacob Techtermann and Hensli V�guilli, discovered to be recruiting soldiers there for foreign adventures, in violation of the ordonnances of the city council. The guilty parties were imprisoned in the Tour Rouge, and the matter went before the council, under the presiding Avoyer, Dietrich d'Englisberg. Severe punishment was contemplated, but through the intervention of their friends, the judges were induced to be relatively indulgent. The accused were only required to pay a fine of 10 livres, with the loss of their rights of citizenship, including prohibition to be admitted to church unless they had obtained a certificate of confession and absolution. Sterner found himself without employment (his position as notary now closed to him), and so moved to Bienne, where the position of secr�taire de ville was open (Alexandre Daguet, "Ludovic Sterner, greffier � Fribourg et secr�taire de ville � Bienne (1496-1540)", in Anzeiger f�r Schweizerische Geschichte, 3:221-222, 248-252, 289-294, [1879-1880], a story marred by many unfortunate typographical errors later noted by Daguet himself). With this background, it is understandable that Fribourg might have objected to the activities of George de Rive.

Why would Fribourg have asked Bern to act, rather than taking legal action before the council of Fribourg? One explanation springs immediately to mind: as a result of the events of 1475, Bern and Fribourg shared control of several areas, such as Grandson, Morat, etc. They implemented joint control in a very creative way, such that the "baillif" or "Landvogt" would be chosen alternately from Bern and then from Fribourg, every five years. Other administrators would come from the other canton, assuring a balance of power. We think the problem with George de Rive must have arisen in a year when an administrator from Bern had control over an area where Fribourg thought there was a chance of influencing him. Thus, the request to Bern need not imply citizenship in Bern, and indeed, there is no mention of this family having such status in the records of Bern. Following the same line of reasoning, the problem alluded to in Fribourg's request might well have occurred in one of these "bailliages communs", rather than in the traditional territory of Fribourg, and it is entirely possible that Bern did not find his activities objectionable, since the foreign policy aims of the two cantons were not necessarily identical. This state of affairs was probably so obvious to historians in the 1880's that Daguet would not have needed to call attention to it, but the implications of the politics of that day will have faded from the consciousness of today's audience.

The three daughters of George de Rive were still alive 22 dec 1567, when it was decided that Jeanne, Fran�oise, and Marguerite would hold equal and joint interest in the fief of Genollier, which their father had purchased for 2,000 �cus d'or 22 jun 1528 from Charles, Duc de Savoie (the history of this fief, from a "grosse de reconnaissances" of the seigneurie de Givrins, prepared by Nillion 25 nov 1774, was published under the title "La seigneurie de Givrins" in Revue historique vaudoise 14:314-316, 350-352, 317-373, in 1906). Jeanne de Rive sold her third (the part that would become the seigneurie de Givrins) 16 sep 1570 to Noble Etienne son of Pierre son of Urbain Quisard, Seigneur de Crans. The third belonging to Marguerite was acquired by Fran�oise, and upon her death 08 feb 1591, her two thirds of the original fief of Genollier passed to her son, Georges de Diesbach, gouverneur de Neuch�tel.

Direct proof of the parentage of George de Rive, son of Oddet de Rive and brother of Jean de Rive, has now been located, in the registers of the notary Beno�t Nible of Payerne (ACV Dp 73, 1547-1582); the transaction in question is in Dp 73/1, fol. 33, dated 20 mar 1550. The former Chambrier of the old Abbey of Payerne, Jean Robert, now residing in Fribourg, had given power of attorney to Jacob F�gelly le jeune bourgeois de Fribourg to recover certain documents in his favor from the de Rive family. The documents in question, in the form of an agreement of "partage" or division, was ultimately delivered by "Noble Dame Francese fille dudict noble George de Rive relaiss�e de feu Noble Hans Roch de Diesbach tant comme charge expresse sus cela ayant dudict Noble George de Rive son p�re et � celuy nom presente et delivrante, nommement la lettre de partaige nullement vici�e ne corrompue, aultresfois faict entre Jehan et George de Rive filz de feu Oddet de Rive bourgeois de Paierne d'une part, et Pierre Rebur ? tant comme administrateur de Jehan, Stevenin, et Glauda ses enfans et de feu Marguerite sa femme fille dudict feu Oddet de Rive d'aultre part, receue et sign�e par feu Discret Pierre Morens notaire dudict Paierne soubz la date de vingt et quattrieme jour du mois d'octobre de l'an courant mille quattre centz novante six". The earlier notary was probably Pierre Moron fils, but his surviving register jumps from 1495 to 1498. Thus the original partage seems to have been lost.

                                             _____________________
                                            |                     
                       _Jaquetus DE RIVE ___|
                      | (.... - 1432)       |
                      |                     |_____________________
                      |                                           
 _Oddet DE RIVE ______|
| (1400 - 1492) m 1459|
|                     |                      _Pierre FOLA ________
|                     |                     |                     
|                     |_Fran�oise FOLA _____|
|                       (.... - 1463)       |
|                                           |_____________________
|                                                                 
|
|--George DE RIVE 
|  (.... - 1552)
|                                            _____________________
|                                           |                     
|                      _Jaquetus BERTHIN ___|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |_____________________
|                     |                                           
|_Isabelle BERTIN ____|
  (.... - 1492) m 1459|
                      |                      _____________________
                      |                     |                     
                      |_Agnelleta _____ ____|
                                            |
                                            |_____________________
                                                                  

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Guillermus DE RIVE       (ID #I20466)

(male)
Father: Jaquetus DE RIVE (d. bef 1432)
Mother: Fran�oise FOLA (d. bef 1463)

 

                                             __
                                            |  
                       _____________________|
                      |                     |
                      |                     |__
                      |                        
 _Jaquetus DE RIVE ___|
| (.... - 1432)       |
|                     |                      __
|                     |                     |  
|                     |_____________________|
|                                           |
|                                           |__
|                                              
|
|--Guillermus DE RIVE 
|  
|                                            __
|                                           |  
|                      _Pierre FOLA ________|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |__
|                     |                        
|_Fran�oise FOLA _____|
  (.... - 1463)       |
                      |                      __
                      |                     |  
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
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Jacob DE RIVE       (ID #I16616)

(male)
Father: Jean DE RIVE (d. BEF 1505)
Mother: Perronette MELLET (dates unknown)

Family 1 : Isabelle _____ (d. AFT 1542)

 

Mentioned frequently in documents at Payerne in the early 16th Century. Among them is a document in Latin that was sewn into the third register of the notary Pierre Chuard (ACV DP 16/3, after fol. 128). The document is dated 26 sep 1538, and appears to be in the hand of Pierre Chuard, even though his other documents of this period are almost entirely in French (sometimes with a few words of Latin interspersed). The document concerns a sale of property of the de Rive family to Fran�ois, son of Daniel Meyer of Fribourg. (With apologies for Latin abbreviations and word endings undoubtedly misinterpreted!)

"Providus vir Jacobus filius quondam Johannis de Rippa et heres universalis quondam Claudii de Rippa sui fratris burgensis Paterniaci tanquam sciens etc., vendit perpetue et irrevocabiliter pro se et suis etc., honesto viro Francisco filio providi viri Danyelis Mehier burgensis friburgi presenti etc., pro se et suis etc., videlicet unam seyturatam prati sitam in fenagio et dominio (?) dicti Paterniaci loco dicto eys praz danum (?) juxta terram camporum de champagnye ex occidente, clausum Oddeti et Johannis Vouchis ex oriente, Et affrontum super pratum deys Crostel a borea et supra terram Guillierum Crostel a vento, cum suis fonds, fructibus et portionem (?) universis. Item magis, vendit prout super unum Rachetum sue unam litteram Reacheti alias per honestam mulierem Anthoniam filiam quondam Berardi Faulcon relictam dicti quondam Johannis de Rippa nunc uxor dicti Danyelis Mehier et matrem dicti Francesci emptoris largitam et concessam dictis quondam Claudio de Rippa et Jacobo de Rippa venditori de possessionibus bustis, Et primo de duabus posas terre situs in territorio Paterniaci loco dicto in condemyna fori juxtam terram Georgii de Rippa ab oriente terram confratrie sancti spiritus paterniaci ab occidente Et affrontam super terram Petri Dodin a borea terram Claudii Crostel et Claudii Fywaz a vento. Item, de duabus posas situs ibidem prope juxta terram dictorum Claudii et Jacobi de Rippa fratrum ab oriente terram dictorum Claudii Crostel et Claudii Fywaz ab occidente Et affrontum supra plures contors a borea a vento. Item, de terra parte unius morcelli terre contenentem septem posas terre situs in eodem territorio loco dicto in condemina de Plagnyou juxta terram dominorum conventus paterniaci a borea terram Claudii Michie junioris ab oriente et supra plures contors ab occidente cum eorum fondis et pertinences constante (?) lictera ipsus Reacheti hys presentibus annexa per quondam discretum virum Franciscum Rueracti clericum paterniaci recepta et per notarium sub signatum ex commissione signata data die decima mensis septembris anno domino millessimo quingesimo sexto sub sigillo communitatis ville paterniaci sigillanda. Et hoc venditit .... precio .... et ... ducentorum florens sabaudie ppond. valorem quolibet florens eorumdem duodecim solidis lausannensis bonorum per se dictum Jacobum de Rippa venditorem a dicto Francisco Mehier emptorum habitorum et receptorum etc., ultra precium in eodem lictera reacheti contentus et tunc jam receptum etc., Devestiendo se idem Jacobus de Rippa venditor presente et suis etc., de dictis seyturata prati et lictera racheti et portionibus (?) prefatum Franciscum Mehier emptorem et suis etc., de eisdem corporaliter et actualiter investiendo per presentes nichil juris actionis per prietaix etc., tituli in eisdem retiendo etc., Et in signum dicte vere venditionis dicti reacheti et possessiono in eodem limitatus et descriptis tradidi et expedius dictam licteram racheti sanam et integram per dicto Francisco Mehier emptorum .... que de ipsa uti gaudere et ne (?) jubare potuissent ante confessionem presentis instrumenti, Promictens in super ipse Jacobus de Rippa venditor per se et suis etc., bona fide sua etc., et sub obligatione omnium bonorum suorum quorumcumque premissa omnia per me superius vendita et expressa cum eorum fonds et pertincenem, Eidem Francisco Mehier emptori et suis etc. perpetue mannere deffendere pacifere (?) que et quiete guerence... ab omnibus et contra omnes et verbusque etc. suis et suorum propriis missionibus et expen... e... omnis dampnorum restitutione .... etc. Saluvis tan.. in permissis venditus erusibus directis annualiter pro prelimitatis seyturata et possessionibus in eodem reacheto contentum debitis per dictum Franciscum Mehier emptorem et suos etc. ex nunc et perpetue supportandus acque solvendus domo sue d... a quo ut a quibus nomine sue debere reperientur, remictans signis ipse Jacobus venditor omnibus exceptione alleg..bus etc. Jorans ut super predicta omnia rata et rata ... ... nenumque alteri de super de signato reacheto fecisse venditorem sue allienationem contra que perdicta non facem etc. vene fiat cum clausis opportunatus datum paterniaci die vigesima sexta mensis septembris anno domino millesimo quingesimo trigesimo octavo.

"Constati michi notarum de laivatione supra facta datus ut super.

"Supra nominatus Franciscus Mehier burgensis friburgi consti se devere et sol... .teneri present etc. predicto Jacobo de Rippa presente pro se etc. videlicet quinquaginta florenos sabaudie valoris quorum super causa reste acquisicionis super proxime scripte etc. sol...dem bona fide sua etc. et sub obligationem omnium suorum bonorum etc. eidus creditus ut suis ... huic ad proximum festum sancti martini yemalis cum dampnis r.... fiat cum clausis opportunus datum die et anno supra scriptis."

After his death, a particularly confusing document dated 03 jun 1552, recorded by Blaise Chalon, notary at Payerne, and related to the Gachet family, mentions as a party to a settlement among the heirs of Pierre Chevrod, a group of daughters and sons of the late Jean Trolliet and the late Marie de Rive. The unnamed daughters, represented by one Jean Huguet of Romont, who had bought out their shares from their respective husbands Bernard Papet, Pierre Faisant, and Maurice Filieux, had inherited from the estate of Jacob de Rive. Other documents from the same notary identify the daughters as Bernardine, wife of Bernard Papet, cordonnier of Romont; Ysabel, wife of Pierre Fazan, notary of Apples; Claudaz, wife of Maurice Fillioux, serrurier of Romont; and Peronnette, wife of Jean Huguet, chappuis of Romont. How the estate of Pierre Chevrod and that of Jacob de Rive may be connected has not been worked out.

Another document recorded by Aim� Chuard, 31 dec 1546, involves Pierre Chuard acting for the same heirs of the late Jean Trolliet, his uncle, as heirs of the late Jacob de Rive. Jacob was still alive in 1543, when he is cited as a member of the council of Payerne.

Noble Jacob de Rive acknowleged on 04 jan 1542 that he and his heirs were liable for an annual rent of 12 sols for a property pledged to the convent of Payerne by Claude de Rippa on 12 jul 1450 for a loan of 12 livres. This Claudius de Rippa had a brother Jacobus de Rippa, but exactly how the debt came to be inherited by Jacob de Rive is not specified. Presumably the line of Claudius and Jacobus had died out, and the obligation was thus passed at some point to the ancestors of Jacob de Rive.

There is also an intriguing document in the registers of the notary Aym� Chuard of Payerne (ACV Dp 15/2, fol. 344v, dated 30 nov 1544, in which property from the estate of the late Jacob de Rive is sold to Nicod de Trey. The inheritance from Jacob by this time had fallen 1/8 to Anne daughter of Jean Michiez, wife of the minister Daniel Demont, and 7/8 to the children of Jean Troilliet of Romont by his late wife Marie, daughter of Jean de Rive and his wife Pernette. The division reported here implies that Anne and the Troilliet children (seven of them are known) must all have been grandchildren of Jean de Rive, and therefore that the wife of Jean Michiez must also have been from the de Rive family. Or, conceivably, perhaps Marie de Rive herself had previously been married to Jean Michiez.

                                             _Jaquetus DE RIVE ___
                                            | (.... - 1432)       
                       _Oddet DE RIVE ______|
                      | (1400 - 1492) m 1459|
                      |                     |_Fran�oise FOLA _____+
                      |                       (.... - 1463)       
 _Jean DE RIVE _______|
| (.... - 1505) m 1483|
|                     |                      _Jaquetus BERTHIN ___
|                     |                     |                     
|                     |_Isabelle BERTIN ____|
|                       (.... - 1492) m 1459|
|                                           |_Agnelleta _____ ____
|                                                                 
|
|--Jacob DE RIVE 
|  (.... - 1546)
|                                            _____________________
|                                           |                     
|                      _Jaques MELLET ______|
|                     | (.... - 1483)       |
|                     |                     |_____________________
|                     |                                           
|_Perronette MELLET __|
   m 1483             |
                      |                      _____________________
                      |                     |                     
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |_____________________
                                                                  

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Jaquetus DE RIVE       (ID #I20462)

(male)
Family 1 : Fran�oise FOLA (d. bef 1463)
  1.  Guillermus DE RIVE (dates unknown)
  2. +Oddet DE RIVE (b. bef 1400, d. BEF 1492)
  3. +Margareta DE RIVE (dates unknown)
  4.  Nicoleta DE RIVE (dates unknown)
  5.  Francesia DE RIVE (dates unknown)
Family 2 : Margareta PAQUEROD (dates unknown)

 

Two different wives are mentioned in documents from Payerne. The chronology is uncertain, as are the children to be attributed to each wife. He is already deceased by 02 jan 1442, when his unnamed heirs are mentioned as adjacent landholders in a "reconnaissance" for property subject to the Abbey of Payerne (ACV Aa 12/3bis, no. 530).

On 11 feb 1463 (AEF Reg. Not. 54, fol. 459), Odet de Ripa, acting for his sister Nicoleta, daughter of Jaquetus de Ripa and the late Francesia Fola, sold property at Favargny, held jointly with Catharine and Agnes, sisters of Francesia. Catherine was the wife of Stephanus or Etienne Cl�ron.

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