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04 Sept 2010
Group Chair: Rosie Bodien
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September 4, 2010 Meeting Report
NEXT MEETING IS OUR DIKUVZDANY (THANKSGIVING POTLUCK) MEETING on November 13, 12:30 to 4:00. Same place!!
OUR SUPER WEBSITE! Is your information on the member page? https://sites.rootsweb.com/~wacsig/
Another super educational meeting!
Thank you Audrey Erickson & John Dziak, Carol Steinhauer, and Helen Lowe for the great treats!!!
A big welcome to new attendee CAROL STEINHAUER. Carol is just starting on her Slovak research. Carol is researching the name MADASH in Germerska Poloma, Slovakia which is a little NW of Roznava and directly west of Kosice.
HELEN LOWE is going full speed with "new" old postcards she has obtained. She finished reading To Reap a Bountiful Harvest by Stepanka Korytova-Magsadt. Besides understanding why her ancestors came to America, she understands more about the religion factor, why some did not join churches here. Helen shared two excellent cook books, one by Pat Martin.
ALLAN PESCHEK shared the research done by Mirek Koudelka, a professional genealogist in the CR, on his Peschek line back to the 1500's. Also included were wonderful Kadastral maps from 1841 that had names, not numbers, on each parcel of land. Great stuff!
MIKE MECHAM's mother's cousin visited two ancestral villages in Slovakia. Their ancestors were definitely Greek Catholics. She sent Mike many pictures of these villages. He is also in contact with his great-grandfather's sister's relatives in Canada. He has had great luck using the pilot search program of the Family History Center.http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 There are good directions on this site.
COLLIE LISKA is going to Ireland on his wife's garden tour next year. He wants to tack on a trip to Budapest . Jo herber had some good hints and John Dziak had some contacts.
JERRY JANDACKA has now found contacts with Jandackas in the USA. He is keeping up his contacts in Slovakia. He is also studying the Slovak language. He likes the Hippocrene Concise Dictionary, Slovak-English, English-Slovak, by Nina Trnka. The beginning language/essential words cd-dvd that he likes is from EuroTalk, www.eurotalk.com. It's available in CZ&SK, called Talk Now. The second series is called Talk More, it's available in CZ, with SK coming soon.
LEE LANGSTED was in the CR last November. Jan Dus, professional CR researcher, took her to her village of Liberec. She had her Liberec Kadstral map to show us. They found house #17 and where house #14 had been before it burned down. House #17 owners had some stories about the people who lived in #14. Her people had Germans names & had to leave in 1946. So she still has some unknowns.
JOHN DZIAK enjoyed all the shared books that went around. He is always learning!! AUDREY ERICSON is the Czech by osmosis. She had some of her original research illegally used without her given the credit. So ... beware when people want all of your research!
JO HERBER shared the name of the Hungarian Consulate here in Kirkland. Jo now has a second cousin's DNA being processed, which means she has all four male lines tested. This cousin lives in Washington,DC.
Helen M. Szablya
Hon. Hungarian Consulate
PO Box 578
Kirkland, WA 98083-0578
LOUISE SIRCHIA has found two interesting books at Half Price books. Legacy by Tomas Carba, Alexandr Korab, David Borek chronicles the history of Communism in Czechoslovakia and the aftermath of the Velvet Revolution. People From Nowhere, a new book by the well-known scholar and founder of Carpatho-Rusyn Studies, Professor Paul Robert Magocsi of the University of Toronto, is a short popular survey of the history and culture of Rusyns worldwide. Louise also had searched the King County Library System for Czech/Slovak movies and gave us a copy of these titles. This movie deserved mention. Zelary is a 2003 Czech/Slovak film directed by Ondrej Trojan, starring Anna Geislerova. The movie received a 2004 Academy Award nomination in the Best Foreign Language Film category. It was produced by Barrandov Studios in Prague.The story begins in 1942, at the time where Europe was going through one of the worst moments of World War II. The Germans are throughout Europe and the Gestapo is the instrument to eliminate the people that are working in the resistance.
JEANETTE HOUSNER is interested in learning some of the Czech words that will help with researching.
NORB ZIEGLER brought a copy of the ship list on which his ancestor came to America. Norb cannot read the writing of this person's occupation. We all tried to help but it is hard to read! He also came to the meeting to learn about Slovak Kadastral maps.
HARV KNIZEK is on hiatus from his Czech language class, but will be back for the next sessions. JOAN KNIZEK volunteers Wednesday at the National Archives at Sand Point.
MARTHA SOLTESZ 's daughter is going to Europe and wants to go to visit Slovakia. Yeah..her next generation is now interested in the family Slovak roots.
JULIE PESCHEK is a Czech by osmosis, too and she does research her own family roots as well.
KADASTRAL MAPS. We write "cadastral" maps in English. Czechs and Slovaks write "kadastral." CGSI is collecting them and will sometime have then available at their library in So. St. Paul. Individuals are donating copies to them. I passed out a sheet with Slovak kadastral map information and one for Czech kadastral map information. One can get copies of Czech Kadastral maps at http://historickemapy.cuz.cz/ Email me for the list of directions for this website. An individual can go to the archives in Prague and get their own copies. I have done that. The Slovak kadastral maps are available in Bratislava, Slovakia. This is the information I found for the Slovak kadastral maps: katastralna-mapa on www.google.sk , http://www.katasternehnutelnosti.sk/272-katastralna-mapa-na-internete/, and http://www.geoportal.sk/gp/
SINCE NOT MUCH IS KNOWN ABOUT SLOVAK KADASTRAL MAPS, NORB SUGGESTED WE CHALLENGE EACH PERSON TO RESEARCH THEM, ASK OTHER RESEARCHERS AND GET INFORMATION BY THE JANUARY MEETING!!! PEOPLE RESEARCHING CZECH KADASTRAL MAPS CAN WORK WITH THE WEBSITE & DIRECTIONS PRINTED TO FIND THEIR KADASTRAL MAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are other kadastral records from earlier times, but we are interested in the Stabl Kadastral maps from 1817 to 1861 that show land ownership boundaries by house number or name for each village. If your ancestor owned land that is very helpful. Jo Herber also pointed out it is helpful for our ancestors who DID NOT own land, too. THe house numbers in birth and marriage records show where these ancestors lived, at which farm, etc. Jo also added that village clerks (Obec urednici in Czech & Slovak) at the town hall have land ownership records that also can help you with your research. So, if you visit your ancestral village, visit the city hall!!!
The Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, has these published copies of the FIRST BERNI RULE SURVEY of the 1654 cadaster (FHL INTL Book 943.7 B4b). I also have these books except for the Kladsko Region. These are for Bohemia only.
Volume / Region
1.........Introduction to the series Berni Rula
2.........General list of communities, settlements and estates for the tax lists in 1654
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