vol 5, p 362

Ship: Louisiana
From: Bremen
To: New York
Arrived: 5 September, 1853

KRUMWIEDE, Friedr., age 25, male, farmer, from Hanover to USA

vol 8, p. 321 ff

Ship: Audubon
From: Bremen
To: New York
Arrived: 23 October, 1854

Name Hits:

STERNBACH, Dorothea, age 20, UNMARRIED female, No occupation, from Germany, village of Borstel, bound for Chicago.

KRUMWIEDE, Heinrich, age 24, male, peasant, from Germany, village of Woelpke, bound for Chicago.

Wilhelm, age 24, male, peasant, from Germany, village of Woelpke, bound for Chicago.

These three names appear together on the passenger list, just as I have listed them here.

QUESTONS:

1. Is this Dorothea STERNBERG? (PROBABLY)
2. Why would she travel under her birth name? It has been brought to my attention that a church ceremony was not recognized by the German government as establishing a legal marriage condition. Only when the couple REGISTERED the marriage, which could only be done when they actually set up house together, did they become man and wife legally. Chances are, that since their emigration occurred immediately after the church ceremony, their marriage was never registered. It is possible that the pastor registered the marriage after they left. They certainly never "set up house" together in Germany. Therefore, Dorothea would have to travel under her birth name, since it is the only name by which the German government would recognize her.

3. Henry and Wilhelm are shown to both be age 24. I have always understood Herr Gross' family history document to indicate that Henry was older than Wilhelm. Several POSSIBILITIES come to mind.

a. Wilhelm was older than Henry by from 9 to 11 months, and had not yet had his birthday in that year at time of boarding; he COULD have had a birthday while on board ship and have been 25 when they arrived.

b. They were twins.

c. There is a transcription error in the book.

d. Herr Gross refers not to the ages of the brothers, but to the order of their immigration: that is, Frederick came first alone and was the eldest; Henry and William followed together, but no intention is there to indicate their relative ages; and August came last to the USA. Because we have the dates of birth of Henry and August, we do know that Henry was older than August. We do not however have a date of birth for William. Therefore, he COULD be older than Henry. Frederick is consistently referred to as the eldest.

CONCLUSIONS:

1. The Freidr. Krumwiede who arrived 5 Sep 1853 aboard the Louisiana is probably the eldest brother of Henry, August, and William.

Even more likely is that this is the man who settled in Blue Island, Illinois and who may or may not have moved to Minnesota. The man in Blue Island homesteaded 3 farms for 3 of his sons in Minnesota; there is disagreement among his descendants as to whether he ever went to Minnesota himself or stayed in Blue Island.

Are these one and the same? Is the man in Blue Island, Illinois our uncle? Contacts have been made in Germany to attempt to verify an exact birth date for Henry and August's brother Frederick. This will not be easy. First, Henry and August with the correct dates of birth must be found in church archives, and then find their older brother Frederick and verify his exact date of birth. If anyone reading these pages has documentation which will clear this up, it would be greatly appreciated if I could have a copy.

2. We have found Henry Konrad and William on board a ship arriving at New York. We PROBABLY have found Dorothea Sternberg on the same ship, traveling under her birth name as an unmarried female with no occupation.

vol 12, p. 260

Ship: Nord Amerika
From: Bremen
To: New York
Arrived: 14 September, 1858

STERNBERG, Juergen, age 51, male, farmer, from Germany to USA
Louise, age 53, female, wife
Maria, age 28, female, daughter
* Louise, age 17, female, daughter

CONCLUSION: It was the Sternberg parents who came to the United States, not the Krumwiede parents. Herr Gross' family history document does not make this clear, but here is Louise arriving approximately 10 months before her marriage to August Krumwiede. Unfortunately, no village of origin was recorded at boarding for this family, only the fact that they were from Hannover and were bound for the United States.

Not shown here is the fact that the mother Louise's brother apparently emigrated at the same time, as the next listing in the book is for a SCHNEWEISS family.

Unfortunately, neither family was accompanied by any male children. Whether this means there were no male children in either the Sternberg or the Schneweiss family or that the male children did not emigragte is not known. In any case, both names die out immediately in our branch of the families.

QUESTIONS REGARDING AUGUST'S IMMIGRATION:

August's immigration record has not been found. Herr Gross makes mention of Baltimore as a port of entry. Clearly, everyone we have accounted for arrived at New York.

Herr Gross and August and Louise were the dearest of friends. This has been confirmed by those still living who remember them all. So far, details he reported about their lives have proven to be more accurate than details reported about others. Therefore, I tend to believe that August arrived at Baltimore and that he arrived a very short time before his wedding to Louise on 2 Jul 1859 in DuPage County, Illinois.

In spite of these clues, his immigration record so far eludes me. If anyone finds this record, please share it with me. (The Census Reading for 1870 in Iroquois County says August arrived in 1849. I doubt it. I suspect the enumerator simply had difficulty understanding the German accents of the area as I have found names in the records for this census year which were clearly the enumerator's attempt to spell the name he/she THOUGHT was heard and to spell it somewhat phonetically.)