They lived in a loghouse on land adjoining his brother Joseph’s farm until 1790, when they moved to Copperstown, Otsage Co, NY. It was said they moved to the borderline of New York and Penn. At any rate, the family are in Cleveland in 1819.89

About 1818, Mr. Rudd settled on a land grant in Springfield Township, Erie Co, PA, with his family of ten children. His children married and settled on farms adjoining.

They lived in a little house at his brother Joseph's in Bennington until they moved to near Cooperstown, NY with their 10 children (all born at Bennington), buying 100 acres along the shore of Lake Erie. John divided the land among the 10 upon his death. John and Chloe moved to Cooperstown, Otsego, NY, where they purchased 100 acres. John divided the land among his 10 children when he died.16, Vol. 75, pg. 280-81; Vol. 87, pg. 69; Vol. 117, pg. 74; Vol. 140, pg. 238; Vol. 143; pg. 127; Vol. 147, pg. 315

Their daughter Tryphosa, tells a story of a day when John and Clara(Chloe) were sitting on the porch together. She would say, “You ain’t my true lover.” He would answer, “Yes, I be.” She would retort, “No you are not. My true lover is at the bottom of the sea.”